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Arny Krueger wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "dizzy" wrote in message fathom wrote: It's easy to run a headless PC (no keyboard or monitor). I'm using a Linux-based server OS called ClarkConnect on an old $300 Athlon PC to serve up 1400 albums to 5 different Squeezeboxes around the house. It's extremely stable and I never have to touch it. The server stays in a closet and everything is controlled from my Windows desktop PC. Great, except you still have a "head" on your Windows PC. My PC is not in my listening room. Nor do a really want one in there. No sane person wants to have a PC *anywhere*. Wrong, obviously. Totally correct. As usual you jumped the gun and skipped the explanation. No need to explain when you're so obviously wrong. However, there are all these compelling practical reasons for having them wherever. Everything has pros and cons. For me, the cons of a PC in my living room outweigh the pros. It is very nice that you have so much money and time to burn. Yeah, Arny, I even have a custom oak entertainment center, even though I could have built one out of plywood and saved some money. How long are you expecting to live - 300 years? Stupid question noted. Or, do you just have few expectations for your life, so wasting time is OK? I don't understand the relevance of these questions. How would the Olive "waste" more time that the PC? MY expectation would be that it would at least as fast as the PC. What am I missing? Not using a PC when they are the most practical solution "just because" is not smart. Using something that you consider sub-optimal just because it's somewhat cheaper can also be "not smart". Narrow view of "most practical solution" noted. Kroological statement noted. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"dizzy" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: "Harry Lavo" wrote: Lameness personified. If this post was really that lame to you Harry, you wouldn't reply. Hmm, I just caught Harry in three lies, in just one post. No, you did not, but I just caught you in a lie, Arny. Unless you can prove that people do not reply to posts that they think are "lame"? In fact, "lame" posts are replied-to all the time, Arny. No they are not. Yes, they are, liar. Why would anybody in their right mind respond to a truely lame post? Because they want to. It's a lie to falsely claim that someone lied, Arny. Thanks for indicting yourself, Dizzy. Saves me the trouble. Stop lying, Arny. |
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Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
But toopid makes truely lame posts. Arns makes truely lame posts, too. And people truely respond to both. Of course they do. I've personally replied to posts that I consider "lame" many, many times over the years. |
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dizzy said: Stop lying, Arny. Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly.... -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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dizzy said: But toopid makes truely lame posts. Arns makes truely lame posts, too. And people truely respond to both. Of course they do. I've personally replied to posts that I consider "lame" many, many times over the years. Realley and truely? -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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"dizzy" wrote in message ... Arny Krueger wrote: "dizzy" wrote in message m Arny Krueger wrote: "dizzy" wrote in message fathom wrote: It's easy to run a headless PC (no keyboard or monitor). I'm using a Linux-based server OS called ClarkConnect on an old $300 Athlon PC to serve up 1400 albums to 5 different Squeezeboxes around the house. It's extremely stable and I never have to touch it. The server stays in a closet and everything is controlled from my Windows desktop PC. Great, except you still have a "head" on your Windows PC. My PC is not in my listening room. Nor do a really want one in there. No sane person wants to have a PC *anywhere*. Wrong, obviously. Totally correct. As usual you jumped the gun and skipped the explanation. No need to explain when you're so obviously wrong. However, there are all these compelling practical reasons for having them wherever. Everything has pros and cons. For me, the cons of a PC in my living room outweigh the pros. It is very nice that you have so much money and time to burn. Yeah, Arny, I even have a custom oak entertainment center, even though I could have built one out of plywood and saved some money. How long are you expecting to live - 300 years? Stupid question noted. Or, do you just have few expectations for your life, so wasting time is OK? I don't understand the relevance of these questions. How would the Olive "waste" more time that the PC? MY expectation would be that it would at least as fast as the PC. What am I missing? Not using a PC when they are the most practical solution "just because" is not smart. Using something that you consider sub-optimal just because it's somewhat cheaper can also be "not smart". Narrow view of "most practical solution" noted. Kroological statement noted. Dizzy, you just don't understand Arny's logic. Pay attention now. He has at least five basic postulates that explain virtually all of his audio input 1. Theory=Evidence (and its correllary, Articles are what I say they are). This postulate allows Arny to argue with great conviction based on his theoretical understanding, and when asked for his proof, to refer to articles that he has "authored" at sometime and in some place (perhaps on a cereal box). But nonetheless they are published articles, and they support his thinking. All the "evidence" you should need. 2. Experience doesn't count (and it's travel-mate, Actual use of in-depth knowledge in a field alien to Arny=snobbism) This allows him to pontificate with pure self-righteousness. Those with actual experience in the area under discussion have no advantage when it comes to presenting arguments. Thus he can debate and even assume a superiority discussing music with Jenn, turntables with Scott, recording with John A, etc. without ever having to achieve an equivalent level of experience or knowledge, since he represents the superior, McDonald-totalling "common man". 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). This is another postulate that in conjunction with #1 allows him to self-righteously pronounce on audio gear. What, you paid more than the minimum for a CD player. BAD! BAD! You mean you actually prefer those expensive tube amplifiers? BAD! BAD! You've bought a Behringer equalizer? GOOD, GOOD! Shows you are a true connoisseur of high-end audio, one who won't be fooled. And I don't need no friggin experience to know so! 3. All that needs to be known is known=scientific (and its corollary, anybody who suggests something worthwhile may not yet be known or appreciated fully=charlatan or magician). Removing any possible infiltration of uncertainty allows Arny to argue with conviction. If it existed in his textbook or his computer manual yesterday, it is science. If it is something that has not yet achieved consensus among EE's, it is "magic". And everybody knows "magic" is not to be taken seriously. The world is round? Clearly some crackpot espousing magical thinking. Hell, didn't we learn in VenetianSecondayAcademy that the world is flat? 4. Music=irrelevant (and its corollary, white noise uber alles). The basic properties of audio gear are signal-to-noise ratio, frequency response up to 20khz, and volume. That's all. Music, musical dynamics, timbrel accuracy, none of that is relevant. The first two properties determine perfection (as in CD players) and the latter determines preference (as in all those dupes who think they prefer something expensive). Analog circuitry, component quality, power supply design, all that esoteric stuff....irrelevant....even $39 Kmart CD players have that down cold. 5. No Difference=Competent Design(corollary: Difference=Incompetent Design). This is a handy corollary that allows Arny to dismiss any blind comparisons that actually find a difference between electrical components. This of course is the ultimate backstop to all of the above corollaries. See, once you understand his postulates, his responses will no longer amaze you. |
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"Harry Lavo" wrote: 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). Except when it's on sale or some kind of good deal, which indicates inferiority based on market rejection. Stephen |
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MiNe 109 said: 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). Except when it's on sale or some kind of good deal, which indicates inferiority based on market rejection. This is getting to be a swamp. -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:08:38 -0500, MiNe 109
wrote: In article , "Harry Lavo" wrote: 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). Except when it's on sale or some kind of good deal, which indicates inferiority based on market rejection. Very good. You've not only mastered the basics, but the logical extrapolations. This is amazing in one lesson. :-) |
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:40:14 GMT, dizzy wrote:
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote: But toopid makes truely lame posts. Arns makes truely lame posts, too. And people truely respond to both. Of course they do. I've personally replied to posts that I consider "lame" many, many times over the years. This is so tempting. But no..... |
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On Mar 17, 2:00 am, (paul packer) wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:08:38 -0500, MiNe 109 wrote: In article , "Harry Lavo" wrote: 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). Except when it's on sale or some kind of good deal, which indicates inferiority based on market rejection. Very good. You've not only mastered the basics, but the logical extrapolations. This is amazing in one lesson. :-) Since I am the one who started this thread, perhaps I should chime in again. First, thanks for those of you who responded with "reasonable" comments. It looks like the Squeezebox route is my best affordable option. I'll store the music in a Lossless format. It surprises me that nobody has produced an afforable cd player with a built in hard drive and multi-line display. I bet there is a big market for this type of thing. Second, it is disappointing to see what this thread has turned in to. Don't you children have anything better to than to spend lots of time insulting each other? You sound like a bunch of spoiled brats winning in nursery school. Get a life!! I think it is time to let this thread die, unless people can get it back on track with the original intent. |
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btcompute said: Don't you children have anything better to than to spend lots of time insulting each other? I believe you've missed both the point of our badinage and its thrust. You sound like a bunch of spoiled brats winning in nursery school. Nursery school has competitions? For what, the spot next to the radiator at naptime? -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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On 17 Mar 2007 08:11:07 -0700, "btcompute"
wrote: Don't you children have anything better to than to spend lots of time insulting each other? No. What better is there? I think it is time to let this thread die, unless people can get it back on track with the original intent. We were simply following the founding charter. There's nothing more original than that. |
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"Harry Lavo" wrote in message
Dizzy, you just don't understand Arny's logic. Pay attention now. He has at least five basic postulates that explain virtually all of his audio input 1. Theory=Evidence (and its correllary, Articles are what I say they are). This postulate allows Arny to argue with great conviction based on his theoretical understanding, and when asked for his proof, to refer to articles that he has "authored" at sometime and in some place (perhaps on a cereal box). But nonetheless they are published articles, and they support his thinking. All the "evidence" you should need. Good example of this would be Harry's reliance on this certain vendor-sponsored article that got shopped around the AES anmd IEEE and finally got published in some off-the-wall journal. It's the only thing he's got that supports his obsession with high sample rates, and just about everybody else laughs at it. 2. Experience doesn't count (and it's travel-mate, Actual use of in-depth knowledge in a field alien to Arny=snobbism) This allows him to pontificate with pure self-righteousness. Those with actual experience in the area under discussion have no advantage when it comes to presenting arguments. Thus he can debate and even assume a superiority discussing music with Jenn, Never happened. turntables with Scott, Which Scott? One's a flaming idiot and the other is merely a technical midget? recording with John A, etc. Only when John wets himself in public, which happens not infrequently. without ever having to achieve an equivalent level of experience or knowledge, Why would I start forgetting what I know so that I would be at an equivalent level of experience or knowledge with the aforementioned persons? since he represents the superior, McDonald-totalling "common man". Me, the common man? LOL! 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). This is another postulate that in conjunction with #1 allows him to self-righteously pronounce on audio gear. What, you paid more than the minimum for a CD player. BAD! BAD! Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. You mean you actually prefer those expensive tube amplifiers? BAD! BAD! Zip said it best - toobs are for boobs, and I don't mean what Anna Nicole wore on her chest. ;-) You've bought a Behringer equalizer? GOOD, GOOD! Shows you are a true connoisseur of high-end audio, one who won't be fooled. And I don't need no friggin experience to know so! Harry likes for forget that don't actually own any Behringer equalizers - mind are almost all Ranes. BTW, has Harry even heard of Rane equalizers? ;-) 3. All that needs to be known is known=scientific (and its corollary, anybody who suggests something worthwhile may not yet be known or appreciated fully=charlatan or magician). Harry's really confused here - he is not up-to-date with the SOTA in audio, so he keeps thinking that something is not known in general, just because he doesn't know about it. Removing any possible infiltration of uncertainty allows Arny to argue with conviction. If it existed in his textbook or his computer manual yesterday, it is science. Given that my yesterday is years in Harry's future... Computers are a sore point with Harry, given how out of date he is, congenitally. If it is something that has not yet achieved consensus among EE's, it is "magic". And everybody knows "magic" is not to be taken seriously. The world is round? Clearly some crackpot espousing magical thinking. Hell, didn't we learn in VenetianSecondayAcademy that the world is flat? Apparently Harry did some schooling in Europe. I never did. 4. Music=irrelevant (and its corollary, white noise uber alles). The basic properties of audio gear are signal-to-noise ratio, frequency response up to 20khz, and volume. That's all. I guess this means that Harry doesn't know about nonlinear distortion, especially esoteric things like FM distortion. They're not on his list, I guess that means that he doesn't think they exist. Music, musical dynamics, timbrel accuracy, none of that is relevant. Obviously, Harry is stone deaf. He stopped doing recording for hire years ago, which is probably when he started losing clients because of how bad his recordings sounded. The first two properties determine perfection (as in CD players) and the latter determines preference (as in all those dupes who think they prefer something expensive). Analog circuitry, component quality, power supply design, all that esoteric stuff....irrelevant....even $39 Kmart CD players have that down cold. Harry has these mind snaps and keeps confusing CD players and DVD players. 5. No Difference=Competent Design(corollary: Difference=Incompetent Design). This is a handy corollary that allows Arny to dismiss any blind comparisons that actually find a difference between electrical components. This of course is the ultimate backstop to all of the above corollaries. If you can make sense of this paragraph, please explain it to me. ;-) See, once you understand his postulates, his responses will no longer amaze you. Harry obviously lives in his own little world where posts like the above are actually true and even make sense. |
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"btcompute" wrote in message
oups.com Second, it is disappointing to see what this thread has turned in to. Don't you children have anything better to than to spend lots of time insulting each other? You sound like a bunch of spoiled brats winning in nursery school. Get a life!! Good point. While these other guys were errr, abusing themselves, I was out on several live recording gigs, listening to and recording a lot of music, talking to people who actually make music with musical instruments and some talent, and rousting up a little pocket change. |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:54:36 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: 5. No Difference=Competent Design(corollary: Difference=Incompetent Design). This is a handy corollary that allows Arny to dismiss any blind comparisons that actually find a difference between electrical components. This of course is the ultimate backstop to all of the above corollaries. If you can make sense of this paragraph, please explain it to me. ;-) Simple, Arny. You say that if one can't hear a difference in Cd players, amps etc, they must be competently designed. If one can hear a difference, at least one must be incompetently designed. Thus you explain away any perceived differences in blind comparisons. This is your ultimate out. Clearer now? |
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"Arny Krueger" said:
2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). This is another postulate that in conjunction with #1 allows him to self-righteously pronounce on audio gear. What, you paid more than the minimum for a CD player. BAD! BAD! Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. WTF do I need a DVD player for in my *music* system? I have over 2000 CDs (and about as many LPs) that play fine on one of my CD players. No doubt, they'll play fine on a DVD player as well, but why should I use a DVD player when all of my CD players are functioning well and sounding good? There's a DVD player in the bedroom with the TV, and there's a DVD writer in both my PC and laptop. That's all I need. insert comment about being old fashioned and afraid/ignorant of new technology here -- - Maggies are an addiction for life. - |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:54:36 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: Harry likes for forget that don't actually own any Behringer equalizers - mind are almost all Ranes. That darned English! |
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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" said: 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). This is another postulate that in conjunction with #1 allows him to self-righteously pronounce on audio gear. What, you paid more than the minimum for a CD player. BAD! BAD! Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. WTF do I need a DVD player for in my *music* system? You don't. but given the lack of choices and price options in CD only players...opening the door to consideration of DVD players expands the options quite dramatically. I have over 2000 CDs (and about as many LPs) that play fine on one of my CD players. No doubt, they'll play fine on a DVD player as well, but why should I use a DVD player when all of my CD players are functioning well and sounding good? Did I miss something? (Beyond being offered the choice of flaming idiot or technical mental midget? ) I don't recall this being about replacing good gear. Though I do think some of the newer DVD players might have a slight technical edge over some of the older CD only players. Not that I would claim significant obvious audible differences..... ScottW |
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"paul packer" wrote in message
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:54:36 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: 5. No Difference=Competent Design(corollary: Difference=Incompetent Design). This is a handy corollary that allows Arny to dismiss any blind comparisons that actually find a difference between electrical components. This of course is the ultimate backstop to all of the above corollaries. If you can make sense of this paragraph, please explain it to me. ;-) Simple, Arny. You say that if one can't hear a difference in Cd players, amps etc, they must be competently designed. Come on, say it the way it was said. What I said is that competently designed CD players and amplifiers are sonically indistringuishable, and not uncommon. If one can hear a difference, at least one must be incompetently designed. Agreed. Thus you explain away any perceived differences in blind comparisons. Frankly, there ain't a lot to explain. Even marginally-designed stuff will be perceieved by most listeners to be indentical. This is your ultimate out. Not really, because I can define "Competently designed" by indepenedent means - in terms of measurable performance. Clearer now? As I just clarified. |
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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" said: 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). This is another postulate that in conjunction with #1 allows him to self-righteously pronounce on audio gear. What, you paid more than the minimum for a CD player. BAD! BAD! Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. WTF do I need a DVD player for in my *music* system? To play CDs. Obviously you don't need a DVD player until you need a CD player. I have over 2000 CDs (and about as many LPs) that play fine on one of my CD players. Then you should have long ago figured out that you aren't currently a candidate for a DVD player. Note that I restricted my comments to buying CD players. If you could read that and understand simple english you would have never gone here, Sander. No doubt, they'll play fine on a DVD player as well, but why should I use a DVD player when all of my CD players are functioning well and sounding good? Inability to read simple English noted. Typical for people who were trainied how to think by the Middiot. There's a DVD player in the bedroom with the TV, and there's a DVD writer in both my PC and laptop. That's all I need. So Sander, you go out and buy new CD players when you don't need any? That's where you seem to be headed. insert comment about being old fashioned and afraid/ignorant of new technology here Delusions of omniscience noted. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Harry Lavo" wrote in message Dizzy, you just don't understand Arny's logic. Pay attention now. He has at least five basic postulates that explain virtually all of his audio input 1. Theory=Evidence (and its correllary, Articles are what I say they are). This postulate allows Arny to argue with great conviction based on his theoretical understanding, and when asked for his proof, to refer to articles that he has "authored" at sometime and in some place (perhaps on a cereal box). But nonetheless they are published articles, and they support his thinking. All the "evidence" you should need. Good example of this would be Harry's reliance on this certain vendor-sponsored article that got shopped around the AES anmd IEEE and finally got published in some off-the-wall journal. It's the only thing he's got that supports his obsession with high sample rates, and just about everybody else laughs at it. Right. Research done by Professors, Doctors, and research PhD's via a consotrtium grant and published in the peer-reviewed "Journal of Neurophysiology". Doesn't begin to compare with Arny's home experiments published in the "how to" column of Audio Amateur. 2. Experience doesn't count (and it's travel-mate, Actual use of in-depth knowledge in a field alien to Arny=snobbism) This allows him to pontificate with pure self-righteousness. Those with actual experience in the area under discussion have no advantage when it comes to presenting arguments. Thus he can debate and even assume a superiority discussing music with Jenn, Never happened. turntables with Scott, Which Scott? One's a flaming idiot and the other is merely a technical midget? recording with John A, etc. Only when John wets himself in public, which happens not infrequently. without ever having to achieve an equivalent level of experience or knowledge, Why would I start forgetting what I know so that I would be at an equivalent level of experience or knowledge with the aforementioned persons? I rest my case. since he represents the superior, McDonald-totalling "common man". Me, the common man? LOL! Delusions of grandeur noted. 2. Good=Cheap (and its corollary, Bad=Expensive). This is another postulate that in conjunction with #1 allows him to self-righteously pronounce on audio gear. What, you paid more than the minimum for a CD player. BAD! BAD! Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. Just a matter of degree, Arny. You mean you actually prefer those expensive tube amplifiers? BAD! BAD! Zip said it best - toobs are for boobs, and I don't mean what Anna Nicole wore on her chest. ;-) Well, about 40% of the audiophile market disagrees, Arny. Hardly makes that a monolithic opinion, now, does it? You've bought a Behringer equalizer? GOOD, GOOD! Shows you are a true connoisseur of high-end audio, one who won't be fooled. And I don't need no friggin experience to know so! Harry likes for forget that don't actually own any Behringer equalizers - mind are almost all Ranes. BTW, has Harry even heard of Rane equalizers? ;-) Well, assuming I can translate the above into English, then perhaps I should say "in the past...". I'll definitely say "that's about all he ever recommends on RAP...". And yes, Arny, I do know what Rane equalizers are...in fact I briefly owned one. 3. All that needs to be known is known=scientific (and its corollary, anybody who suggests something worthwhile may not yet be known or appreciated fully=charlatan or magician). Harry's really confused here - he is not up-to-date with the SOTA in audio, so he keeps thinking that something is not known in general, just because he doesn't know about it. Okay, Arny. What "not yet proven" but "possible" audio theories are out there that you consider open to considering as possibly valid? Removing any possible infiltration of uncertainty allows Arny to argue with conviction. If it existed in his textbook or his computer manual yesterday, it is science. Given that my yesterday is years in Harry's future... Computers are a sore point with Harry, given how out of date he is, congenitally. LOL. I've been using/building/installing computers since 1981, starting with an Osborne, on which I managed to automate my financial record keeping for both home and a summer rental property. I bought the first four IBM PC XT's sold in Lousiville, KY for the company I headed, and completely automated the financial reporting system in three months. I founded a consulting company in the mid-eighties that used PC's to compete with McKinsey and Booze, who were still using $100,000 a pop Wang word processors (an beat them out on a few proposals). I owned (with a partner) a computer services and hardware firm for eight years that managed to develop and install a state-of-the-art medical information processing system for Montifiore Hospital when they ran the clinics on Riker's Island. And researched and recommended a state-of-the-art workflow solution of one of the Big 5 Accounting Firms. Now, in my retirement, I live in a home with four wirelessly networked PC's, one of them a recording DAW. Sure I don't know computers. If it is something that has not yet achieved consensus among EE's, it is "magic". And everybody knows "magic" is not to be taken seriously. The world is round? Clearly some crackpot espousing magical thinking. Hell, didn't we learn in VenetianSecondayAcademy that the world is flat? Apparently Harry did some schooling in Europe. I never did. Actually, Arny...it was Galileo. Ever hear of him? 4. Music=irrelevant (and its corollary, white noise uber alles). The basic properties of audio gear are signal-to-noise ratio, frequency response up to 20khz, and volume. That's all. I guess this means that Harry doesn't know about nonlinear distortion, especially esoteric things like FM distortion. They're not on his list, I guess that means that he doesn't think they exist. Gosh, Arny....I guess it is us simpletons that you dumb down your repetoire for, right? Music, musical dynamics, timbrel accuracy, none of that is relevant. Obviously, Harry is stone deaf. He stopped doing recording for hire years ago, which is probably when he started losing clients because of how bad his recordings sounded. Not only is this wrong, but it is of course completely irrelevant to my comment, for which Arny has no known response that would not make him a laughstock on Usenet. The first two properties determine perfection (as in CD players) and the latter determines preference (as in all those dupes who think they prefer something expensive). Analog circuitry, component quality, power supply design, all that esoteric stuff....irrelevant....even $39 Kmart CD players have that down cold. Harry has these mind snaps and keeps confusing CD players and DVD players. I guess Arny is getting tired....my mind snaps having him confusing his DVD players with my CD players. 5. No Difference=Competent Design(corollary: Difference=Incompetent Design). This is a handy corollary that allows Arny to dismiss any blind comparisons that actually find a difference between electrical components. This of course is the ultimate backstop to all of the above corollaries. If you can make sense of this paragraph, please explain it to me. ;-) I yield to Paul on this one. See, once you understand his postulates, his responses will no longer amaze you. Harry obviously lives in his own little world where posts like the above are actually true and even make sense. No its your own big world of lies, hypocrisy, and posturing that I post about, Arny. |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
"Arny Krueger" said:
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" said: Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. WTF do I need a DVD player for in my *music* system? To play CDs. Obviously you don't need a DVD player until you need a CD player. "You don't need a DVD player until you need a CD player." Umm........whatever. I have over 2000 CDs (and about as many LPs) that play fine on one of my CD players. Then you should have long ago figured out that you aren't currently a candidate for a DVD player. Note that I restricted my comments to buying CD players. If you could read that and understand simple english you would have never gone here, Sander. You berate people for buying * any* CD player. I sometimes buy older models, just for fun and tweaking. Those oldies are well built and will outlive the cheap DVD players, some of which are known to function for only a year or so. No doubt, they'll play fine on a DVD player as well, but why should I use a DVD player when all of my CD players are functioning well and sounding good? Inability to read simple English noted. Typical for people who were trainied how to think by the Middiot. Prove it. There's a DVD player in the bedroom with the TV, and there's a DVD writer in both my PC and laptop. That's all I need. So Sander, you go out and buy new CD players when you don't need any? That's where you seem to be headed. In fact, I do. I recently bought an old Pioneer PDS-06 and a Teac VRDS20, just to toy around with. I don't "need" them since I have already enough other players lying around. insert comment about being old fashioned and afraid/ignorant of new technology here Delusions of omniscience noted. Just an educated guess. A snotstorm instead, what's the diferrence? -- - Maggies are an addiction for life. - |
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paul packer wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:40:14 GMT, dizzy wrote: Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote: But toopid makes truely lame posts. Arns makes truely lame posts, too. And people truely respond to both. Of course they do. I've personally replied to posts that I consider "lame" many, many times over the years. This is so tempting. But no..... I'm glad you showed restraint. The setup made wise-cracks just TOO easy. 8) |
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George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote:
dizzy said: But toopid makes truely lame posts. Arns makes truely lame posts, too. And people truely respond to both. Of course they do. I've personally replied to posts that I consider "lame" many, many times over the years. Realley and truely? I'm doing so as I type. |
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:17:54 GMT, dizzy wrote:
paul packer wrote: On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:40:14 GMT, dizzy wrote: Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote: But toopid makes truely lame posts. Arns makes truely lame posts, too. And people truely respond to both. Of course they do. I've personally replied to posts that I consider "lame" many, many times over the years. This is so tempting. But no..... I'm glad you showed restraint. The setup made wise-cracks just TOO easy. 8) You owe me one. :-) |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" said: "Sander deWaal" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" said: Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. WTF do I need a DVD player for in my *music* system? To play CDs. Obviously you don't need a DVD player until you need a CD player. "You don't need a DVD player until you need a CD player." Umm........whatever. It doesn't take much to go over your head any more, does it Sander? I have over 2000 CDs (and about as many LPs) that play fine on one of my CD players. Then you should have long ago figured out that you aren't currently a candidate for a DVD player. Note that I restricted my comments to buying CD players. If you could read that and understand simple english you would have never gone here, Sander. You berate people for buying * any* CD player. So what? No matter how you try to change the subject Sander, I never said get a DVD player to play CDs even when you have enough working CD players on hand. That's what you tried to pretend I said, Sander. Nice job of not taking responsibility for your scribblings. Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. |
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Why I think good old Arns and toopid are related
On Mar 19, 7:02 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. Good old Arns and toopid have been becoming more and more nasty with each passing day. Neither can seem to figure out even the simplest concepts. And put together, they have a self-awareness rationg of zero. Perhaps they were seperated at birth? |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
"Arny Krueger" said:
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" said: "Sander deWaal" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" said: Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. You berate people for buying * any* CD player. So what? No matter how you try to change the subject Sander, I never said get a DVD player to play CDs even when you have enough working CD players on hand. Quote: Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. Unquote. That's what you tried to pretend I said, Sander. Nice job of not taking responsibility for your scribblings. You're so special, Arns. Really. I learned a lot from you, didn't you notice? ;-) Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. Enough brains to make it in the audio industry, unlike you. I know that hurts, I can almost feel your pain. Some friendly advice, Arny: stay out of the way of your betters, like in RATubes, RAP, AAPLS and RATech. Here in RAO, you're still somewhat of a one-eyed king. Treasure that. I won't stand in your way. ;-) -- - Maggies are an addiction for life. - |
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On Mar 19, 6:35 pm, Sander deWaal wrote:
"Arny Krueger" said: "Sander deWaal" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" said: "Sander deWaal" wrote in message om "Arny Krueger" said: Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. You berate people for buying * any* CD player. So what? No matter how you try to change the subject Sander, I never said get a DVD player to play CDs even when you have enough working CD players on hand. Quote: Harry is out of date. I berate people for buying *any* CD player, given that DVD players are so good at such low prices. Unquote. That's what you tried to pretend I said, Sander. Nice job of not taking responsibility for your scribblings. You're so special, Arns. Really. I learned a lot from you, didn't you notice? ;-) Sander, I have to agree with good old Arns here. He clearly meant that Andromeda is the closest star, and that the pressure on you if you were at the bottom of the Marianas Trench would kill you. Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. Enough brains to make it in the audio industry, unlike you. I know that hurts, I can almost feel your pain. It'S lIike if you where at the bTTom of the Mary Annas Trech, LoTS! Some friendly advice, Arny: stay out of the way of your betters, like in RATubes, RAP, AAPLS and RATech. If that's the criteria, he can't read email now, either. Nice. Here in RAO, you're still somewhat of a one-eyed king. Treasure that. I won't stand in your way. ;-) deWaalish noted.:-) |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
news "Arny Krueger" said: Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. Enough brains to make it in the audio industry, unlike you. ??????????????? |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
The Krooborg pretends to a faulty memory. Enough brains to make it in the audio industry, unlike you. ??????????????? Don't try lying about what we all know to be true, Turdy. You are not involved in the audio industry in any way, shape, or form. You can't be because you don't have the skills. You couldn't even get a job as a tech in a repair shop. -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
"Arny Krueger" said:
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message news "Arny Krueger" said: Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. Enough brains to make it in the audio industry, unlike you. ??????????????? Forgot how to use Goggle ©, just plain lying, or a brain dead, Alzheimers-suffering imbecile? ;-) See my reply in RATubes. -- - Maggies are an addiction for life. - |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" said: "Sander deWaal" wrote in message news "Arny Krueger" said: Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. Enough brains to make it in the audio industry, unlike you. ??????????????? Forgot how to use Goggle ©, just plain lying, or a brain dead, Alzheimers-suffering imbecile? ;-) See my reply in RATubes. Just a bunch of unsubstiantiated claims. |
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Decoding Krooglish on a sunday evening.
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"Arny Krueger" wrote: "Sander deWaal" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" said: "Sander deWaal" wrote in message news "Arny Krueger" said: Here's some friendly advice Sander - whatever it is that is rotting your brain before our very eyes, try to stay off of it. You don't seem to have any brains to spare. Enough brains to make it in the audio industry, unlike you. ??????????????? Forgot how to use Goggle ©, just plain lying, or a brain dead, Alzheimers-suffering imbecile? ;-) See my reply in RATubes. Just a bunch of unsubstiantiated claims. LOL Just the right note of self-parody, congrats! Stephen |
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