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People that have or do listen to both Vinyl and Cd: Basic survey/poll
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Arny, you are in way over your head in this area. Don't make a fool of yourself. You already told us about your equipment. Arny said You just said that I didn't tell you about my equipment or its upgrades. Nope. We know what turntable you have to be specific. I have no idea what speakers and electronics you had when you got your first CD player and I have no idea what speakers and electronics you bought when you "upgraded" your system. I said Why go through all this anecdotal crap without naming any brand names when all you had to do was answer a straight question? Arny said You didn't ask for brand names, sockpuppet "Wheel". Why would I remember all these details about brand names 20 years later? I'll reproduce the question you did ask for you to jog your memory with. Perchance you're suffering from senile dementia and your short-term memory is shot? You are redundant if nothing else. But lets look at that question. " Perhaps you could cite a specific system "balanced to favor LPs" and describe how such a system favors LPs" Wow, you have repeted it now numerous times and you still don't get it. Your anecdote fails to cite any specific system "balanced to favor LPs." All of your posts fail to do so. Do you know how to cite a system? You name the components. That requires one to name brand names and models. Duh. I said Cite an example of an actual system that has been balanced for LPs then explain how it is balanced for LPs. Then we can compare and contrast it to my system which you claim is balanced for LPs. Arny said Since the sound quality and timbre of a system is highly dependent on the room its in, that's a ludicrous question and an impossible analysis. Given the fact that you made the claim about systems being balanced to favor LPs including my system your inability to be able to cite such a system simply further demonstrates what a load of crap your claim was about systems being balanced to favor LPs. What a shock. Arny said for the umpteenth time. I'll reproduce the question you asked for you to jog your memory with. Perchance you're suffering from senile dementia and your short-term memory is shot? "S888Wheel" wrote in message Perhaps you could cite a specific system "balanced to favor LPs" and describe how such a system favors LPs. This question seems to have quite a bit of latitude for possible answers, no? One would think so. So given the multitude of possible answers why is it you cannot come up with one? Arny said You will notice that many LP bigots (Greg Singh was a example of a RAO regular with this problem) just don't seem to be able to find the subwoofer of their dreams, and this can be one reason why. I said Then explain those of us who have found such subwoofers to our satisfaction and other speaker systems with full base extension that still prefer LPs. Arny said Does such a person exist? Yes. Please provide a specific example with all brand names and models. Include complete details of sound and vibration isolation. Oracle Delphi MkV table. Graham 2.0 arm. Audioquest 7000 cartridge. Audio Research Reference phono preamp, Audio Research reference 600 amps. Vandersteen model 5 speakers. The only isolation is that which is built into the Oracle table. This just one example. Arny said If there are no problems with the CD side of their system, why would they prefer LP? Because it sounds better to them. Duh Arny said They finally took steps to straighten out the timbre cartridges or get cartridges that could be spectrally straightened out. It generally didn't take too long for them for forget about vinyl anyway because not much new is happening in that market, relatively speaking. I said Wrong, as usual when it comes to LPs. Arny said If everybody still remembers and uses LPs, why have their sales fallen by about 99% of market share? Irrelevant to the issue. You made a claim that not much new is happening in the LP market. That is clearly wrong. Sales percentage has nothing to do with it. I said There is plenty going on. You just don't know about it or care about it. Arny said Heck, even vinyl bigots admit that there are relatively few new LP releases compared to the massive number of CD releases. Your claim was an absolute claim not a relative comparitive claim. So your point is irrelevant as usual. There are plenty of releases on LP to keep LP enthusiasts quite happy. There is plenty going on in the LP market. You are simply wrong. Arny said Are you really so delusional as to think that the number of LP releases compares favorable to the number of Cd releases? Are you really so delusional that you think I made any such claim? Are you so delusional that you cannot see that your claim made no reference to CDs in comparison and that it was an absolute claim and a false claim? Arny said If so, provide recent audited statistics from an independent source to back up your claims. Are you so delusional about my claims that you are now demanding a back up claims I never made? |
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:01:34 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote in : Today, most of my friends who still listen to vinyl routinely do so by means of CD-R proxies. Several of them have become quite expert at straightening out the well-known deficiencies of vinyl, often delivering a musical product that is quite CD-like. IOW quiet, running at the right speed, and with pleasant, even realistic dynamics and spectral balance. All through the *magic* of digital processing. Errm... magic? Did you mean to use quotation marks and instead used asterisks, or were you really highlighting the fact that digital processing is "magical" to you? --- "It occurred to me that audio engineers will someday be replaced by computers. I feel better now -- at least you can turn a computer off." |
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People that have or do listen to both Vinyl and Cd: Basic survey/poll
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 21:57:11 +0200, "Hans"
wrote in : My main concern about the digital media today is, that never before has so many releases sounded so awfull than today. Overmastered, no dynamics, no sound stage (everything in a little box), distorted, way to loud. It seems that many producers has got a total brainmeltdown, not knowing what they're doing, but that's an entirely different story. Agreed... CD's these days (the past couple years especially) sound so bad that it overwhelms any theoretical differences -- in truth, nearly all of CD's supposedly superior dynamic range is utterly wasted with the majority of studio (non-classical) releases these days. Ohhh... ear pain. Horrible stuff. --- "It occurred to me that audio engineers will someday be replaced by computers. I feel better now -- at least you can turn a computer off." |
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Fool Moi tries to follow in the foolish footsteps of fool Richman. Trouble
is, Moi is even a bigger fool than Richman. At least Richman can do a credible job of dropping names for his favorite market niche. "Moi" wrote in message On 06 Aug 2003 16:27:50 GMT, (Bruce J. Richman) wrote in : 21st century reality is digital and solid state. It seems like everybody knows this but Richman and a few hangers-on. ROTFLMAO! Tell it to the folks at Audio Research, Conrad Johnson, Cary, VTL, Manley Laboratories, Jadis, Jolida, VPI, Rega, Project, Music Hall, Basis, Clearaudio, Thorens, Grado, Shure, Sumiko, Nottingham, J.A. Michell, and many others. No doubt, all these companies haven't been reading or listening to Krueger's pathetic attempts to spread his delusional and paranoid propaganda. Watching Richman marginalize himself is really pretty funny. There's actually a valid mainstream audio company on that list - Shure. I suspect that Shure does more business in a year than the whole rest of the list put together. But phono cartridges are a very minor part of their business. No fools, they. I suspect Krooger isn't too familiar with those names. I own or have owned products made by Conrad Johnson, Rega, Thorens, Grado, and Shure. I think you should pump these out to give the Kroo-man a sense of recognition: Creative Labs, Soundblaster, Altec Lansing, Seagate, Plextor, Fraunhofer, MP3, Kazaa, Napster, Grokster, Sony, Labtec... Your blatant ignorance is showing again sockpuppet "Moi". Plextor is in fact the market quality leader when it comes to CD & DVD drives. Seagate is one of the companies that leads the hard drive market. The name Sony is well known as a quality brand in the audio marketplace, as well as the computer market. None of these companies have a reputation for being cheap. In fact, in their respective markets, they are well known for premium-priced products. Ahh -- "Cheepniss." Sockpuppet Moi, you can't even spell proper forms of the word cheap right, which makes you wrong and stupid-looking on yet another level. The Kroo will be in familiar territory here -- if it's made of plastic (maybe a little thin sheet aluminum) and breaks in less than 2 years, it receives the official seal of Kroog-approval as "modern" and "good specs - recommended." You've shown yourself to be an ignoramus yet again, sockpuppet Moi. Welcome back to RAO, you'll fit right in with the others like you. You can stand over there with Middius and Phillips. When I saw you first post again here several days ago Moi, I was wondering how many pleas for help you'd have to receive from Middius and his clique before you got your hands dirty again. So what did those guys do to get you to come back? Obviously, they know they are losing their collective asses and needed help in the worst way. And here you are Moi, giving them help in the worst way! ROFLMAO! You do laughing hyena well, sockpuppet Moi. --- "It occurred to me that audio engineers will someday be replaced by computers. I feel better now -- at least you can turn a computer off." No audio engineers, no new recordings of music. Yet another example of your ignorance and short-sightedness, sockpuppet Moi. |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
You're probably right. Brands associated essentially with computer gear don't require such Krueger-alien properties as sensitivity, emotion, or preference to be "utilized" or is that "ditigitized". I love it when borderline sociopaths like Richman start fantasizing that inanimate objects have emotion. It really shows how alien they are to humanity. As long as they can be robotoically switched on and off, that's good enough. I think your list of his preferred "gear" is quite comprehensive, but in all fairness, you should have probably also included WalMart. You're free-associating, Richman. I never shop at WalMart or KMart. But maybe a little Target. |
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"Hans" wrote in message
k My main concern about the digital media today is, that never before has so many releases sounded so awfull than today. Overmastered, no dynamics, no sound stage (everything in a little box), distorted, way to loud. It seems that many producers has got a total brainmeltdown, not knowing what they're doing, but that's an entirely different story. I agree. One reason I've started making my own recordings. |
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Arny Kruege wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message You're probably right. Brands associated essentially with computer gear don't require such Krueger-alien properties as sensitivity, emotion, or preference to be "utilized" or is that "ditigitized". I love it when borderline sociopaths like Richman start fantasizing that inanimate objects have emotion. It really shows how alien they are to humanity. Very predictable response from a compulsive liar and delusional creep that can't comprehend clearly written English sentences. Read it again, moron. You've just confirmed for all of RAO that you lack the personal qualities necessary - as listed above - to be able to exhibit "sensitivity, emotion or preference". Too bad you, in your haste, to display your ineptitude, ignored the word, "require". Perhaps your digital work station forgot to "tell" you how to respond in a manner that rational people can understand. Now, I'll let you get back to your robotic cutting-and-pasting of responses - so typical of one whose interpersonal skills resemble those of a digital work station. As long as they can be robotoically switched on and off, that's good enough. I think your list of his preferred "gear" is quite comprehensive, but in all fairness, you should have probably also included WalMart. You're free-associating, Richman. I never shop at WalMart or KMart. But maybe a little Target. There's nothing wrong with free associating, Krueger. It's long been an accepted part of therapeutic practice. But as you regularly demonstrate with your ignorant misuse of terms like "borderline", "sociopath", and "free associate", you don't even know what these words mean. Not surprising given your lack of competence in either describing or evaluating human behavior of any form. Next time try using the word "speculating" and you might be somewhat closer to the truth. (Sorry if the use of the word, "truth", offends you; I realize it's not something you like to deal with very often). Bruce J. Richman |
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Howard Ferstler wrote:
(Bruce J. Richman) wrote in message ... Hans wrote: My main concern about the digital media today is, that never before has so many releases sounded so awfull than today. Overmastered, no dynamics, no sound stage (everything in a little box), distorted, way to loud. It seems that many producers has got a total brainmeltdown, not knowing what they're doing, but that's an entirely different story. I would tend to agree with you. I think a lot of this has to do with the CD industry's desire to appeal to the "mass market" of boombox users, those who favor PC burners for "digital playback", and advocates of the "all CD/DVD players and electronics sound alike so buy the cheapest" philosophy. After all, why cater to such a small niche as those who choose to believe in individual preferences and tolerance for the views and preferences of others? My computer has been disconnected for days (home-improvement requirements, etc.), but I just cranked it up and took a look at RAO. Of course. You couldn't help yourself, right, Clarabelle. If you had continued to keep your computer disconnected you could have improved not only your home, but also your mental health. If you clowns would develop some genuine musical taste you would not be in such a fix. Classical recordings (many of which I review and will continue to review for The Sensible Sound) are as good as ever, and many are better than ever. Even low-priced labels like Naxos are delivering superb performances and sound. Thanks for these words of wisdom and elitist snobbery, Clarabelle. Do you have any ideas about what type of music the people on RAO might listen to on a regular basis? Of course not. At least there doesn't seem to be any evidence here that you have botherred to try and find this basic fact out. Of course, I can speak only for myself, but it just so happens that this writer has a rather large collection of classical music recordings and I listen to them on a regular basis. As an aside, it is a commonly known (and published) fact that classical music sales via CD comprise a very miniscule proportion of current CD sales. Labels like Naxos, who simply don't have the financial resources to compete with the BMG's and Sony's of the recording industry, are often hard pressed (pun intended) to hire well-known orchestras and/or soloists to compete with the better known "names" of yesteryear (and even today). Again, if all one listens to is modern-crap-junko music (if we can call such noise "music" at all), then you obviously have a point. The music is created for those with little in the way of musical taste or an appreciation for good sound. And that music is what the vast majuority of the listening public buys - by your definition. As usual in your ignorant arrogance, you try and define "good music" to include only what you personally like. The late, great Arthur Fiedler (who was a friend of my family's) was once asked whether classical music was "better" than other types of music. His answer, and I'm paraphrasing here, was that there are only 2 types of music, and they are not genre-specific, "good music' and "bad music". Unlike ignorant clowns like you, Clarabelle, he also put his words in to action. His Boston Pops concerts generally included guest soloists from a wide variety of different musical genres (e.g. Al Hirt, Chet Atkins, the Siegal-Schwall Blues Band, even Julia Childs (lol), and assorted rock musicians as well. But then, unlike you, Clarabelle, he was a man of both tolerance and intelligence when it came to musical enjoyment and performance. And all decently built CD and DVD players do indeed sound alike, Clyde. Back to my home-improvement work. Have a good rant. Howard Ferstler I'd suggest you concentrate more on your mental health improvement, Clarabelle. You could begin by acknowledging that only the voices in your head know anybody named Clyde - lol. As for ranting, it appears that you've just been ranting quite a bit about all the musical tastes of all the CD/DVD userrs that you imagine don't share your elitist and tunnel-vision sensibilities. You've also been defending, by association, your good friend, Krueger, who rants continually about the prefernces of those that happen to enjoy vinyl playback. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Clarabelle. Honk your horn in Tallahassee, not here. Bruce J. Richman |
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:37:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote in : When I saw you first post again here several days ago Moi, I was wondering how many pleas for help you'd have to receive from Middius and his clique before you got your hands dirty again. So what did those guys do to get you to come back? Actually, I'll tell you precisely why I came back. I happened to browse by Furious.com, and read the latest couple editions of Boon's "Vinyl Corner" articles there... in one of them, he mentions the audio newsgroups (either this one specifically, or the rec.audio.* newsgroups in general). After reading his (imo excellent) columns, I thought "hmmm, oh yeah. Wonder what's happening on rec.audio.opinion lately." It's really quite that simple, Arny... no conspiracy theories, no evil "Middius and his clique" influences, etc. You really need some help, my friend -- you've created a self-fulfilling prophesy with your paranoia. Nobody's out to get you but you think they are, so you act accordingly -- which makes people want to "get you." ROTFL! Cheers... --- "It occurred to me that audio engineers will someday be replaced by computers. I feel better now -- at least you can turn a computer off." |
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Moi (Tim) wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:37:50 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote in : When I saw you first post again here several days ago Moi, I was wondering how many pleas for help you'd have to receive from Middius and his clique before you got your hands dirty again. So what did those guys do to get you to come back? Actually, I'll tell you precisely why I came back. I happened to browse by Furious.com, and read the latest couple editions of Boon's "Vinyl Corner" articles there... in one of them, he mentions the audio newsgroups (either this one specifically, or the rec.audio.* newsgroups in general). After reading his (imo excellent) columns, I thought "hmmm, oh yeah. Wonder what's happening on rec.audio.opinion lately." It's really quite that simple, Arny... no conspiracy theories, no evil "Middius and his clique" influences, etc. You really need some help, my friend -- you've created a self-fulfilling prophesy with your paranoia. Nobody's out to get you but you think they are, so you act accordingly -- which makes people want to "get you." Prove it. LOL! Moi, we missed you at the last meeting of the clique. Oops, I hope Krueger isn't reading this! Oh well, don't forget to come to the next one - we're going to be electing officers, playing vinyl, and having a contest to see who can come bup with the best uses for CDs. ROTFL! Cheers... --- "It occurred to me that audio engineers will someday be replaced by computers. I feel better now -- at least you can turn a computer off." Bruce J. Richman |
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Moi said to ****-for-Brains: It's really quite that simple, Arny... no conspiracy theories, no evil "Middius and his clique" influences, etc. I would appreciate it if you would please stop making light of my vast and potent powers of mind-control. TIA. |
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:42:37 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote in : "Moi" wrote in message After reading his (imo excellent) columns, I thought "hmmm, oh yeah. Wonder what's happening on rec.audio.opinion lately." Right Moi, and you came back and said something like Yecch and disappeared for a while. It's really quite that simple, Arny... no conspiracy theories, no evil "Middius and his clique" influences, etc. That doesn't explain the facts. Well... if paranoid conspiracy theories do the job for you, who am I to complain? Enjoy them. Nobody's out to get you but you think they are, so you act accordingly -- which makes people want to "get you." Dream on, fool! Like I said. Only -- may I suggest that you try one of the relatively benign SSRI's? I understand that Paxil (paroxetine) and Luvox (fluvoxamine) can be quite effective. Your problem really could just be as simple as a brain chemical imbalance, and this is easily treated with very effective and relatively side-effect free medications. |
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"Moi" wrote in message
Only -- may I suggest that you try one of the relatively benign SSRI's? I understand that Paxil (paroxetine) and Luvox (fluvoxamine) can be quite effective. Reading the bottles on your bed stand again, Moi? Your problem really could just be as simple as a brain chemical imbalance, and this is easily treated with very effective and relatively side-effect free medications. Why would I believe a long distance medical diagnosis from an unqualfied person who is under a doctor's care due to his mental state? |
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:23:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote in : "Moi" wrote in message Only -- may I suggest that you try one of the relatively benign SSRI's? I understand that Paxil (paroxetine) and Luvox (fluvoxamine) can be quite effective. Reading the bottles on your bed stand again, Moi? Well, it was worth a try anyway... Your problem really could just be as simple as a brain chemical imbalance, and this is easily treated with very effective and relatively side-effect free medications. Why would I believe a long distance medical diagnosis from an unqualfied person who is under a doctor's care due to his mental state? More unfounded theories? Arny, Arny, Arny... again, you've put yourself in an impossible bind. These drugs really could help you get out of this self-imposed mess, yet you refuse to take them and accuse the messenger of "being under a doctor's care due to his mental state" (of course, without any backing evidence). I suppose it's pointless to recommend drugs -- like many people similar to yourself, you appear to believe that the world is insane and you're the only sound-minded person around. |
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"Moi" wrote in message
news 
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:23:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote in : "Moi" wrote in message Only -- may I suggest that you try one of the relatively benign SSRI's? I understand that Paxil (paroxetine) and Luvox (fluvoxamine) can be quite effective. Reading the bottles on your bed stand again, Moi? Well, it was worth a try anyway... Yawn. Your problem really could just be as simple as a brain chemical imbalance, and this is easily treated with very effective and relatively side-effect free medications. I'll bet that low side-effect aspect is very important to you, Moi. Why would I believe a long distance medical diagnosis from an unqualified person who is under a doctor's care due to his mental state? I need a laugh, Moi. Tell us why you're so conversant with these common psychologically therapeutic drugs. Make it a good story that doesn't implicate you. ;-) More unfounded theories? Arny, Arny, Arny... again, you've put yourself in an impossible bind. These drugs really could help you get out of this self-imposed mess, yet you refuse to take them and accuse the messenger of "being under a doctor's care due to his mental state" (of course, without any backing evidence). Blather, blather, blather. I suppose it's pointless to recommend drugs -- like many people similar to yourself, you appear to believe that the world is insane and you're the only sound-minded person around. Not at all. The world is full of wonderful people, virtually all just fine. Ditto for Usenet, although the environment seems to promote quite a bit more extremism and controversy. Then there's RAO... It's a very unique place. More nuts per square foot than the ground under my walnut tree. Go figure. |
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 16:57:02 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote in : Why would I believe a long distance medical diagnosis from an unqualified person who is under a doctor's care due to his mental state? I need a laugh, Moi. Tell us why you're so conversant with these common psychologically therapeutic drugs. Make it a good story that doesn't implicate you. A Google search on the term "antidepressants." I'm not sure whether that "implicates me" of something (other than being able to use a search engine) in your paranoid universe, but if it does, do tell... More unfounded theories? Arny, Arny, Arny... again, you've put yourself in an impossible bind. These drugs really could help you get out of this self-imposed mess, yet you refuse to take them and accuse the messenger of "being under a doctor's care due to his mental state" (of course, without any backing evidence). Blather, blather, blather. A very intelligent response, thanks. Then there's RAO... It's a very unique place. More nuts per square foot than the ground under my walnut tree. Go figure. Yes, your presence seems to drive quite a few people (figuratively) nuts. You do get that much-needed attention, tho... |
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Moi wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:42:37 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote in : "Moi" wrote in message m After reading his (imo excellent) columns, I thought "hmmm, oh yeah. Wonder what's happening on rec.audio.opinion lately." Right Moi, and you came back and said something like Yecch and disappeared for a while. It's really quite that simple, Arny... no conspiracy theories, no evil "Middius and his clique" influences, etc. That doesn't explain the facts. Well... if paranoid conspiracy theories do the job for you, who am I to complain? Enjoy them. Nobody's out to get you but you think they are, so you act accordingly -- which makes people want to "get you." Dream on, fool! Like I said. Only -- may I suggest that you try one of the relatively benign SSRI's? I understand that Paxil (paroxetine) and Luvox (fluvoxamine) can be quite effective. Your problem really could just be as simple as a brain chemical imbalance, and this is easily treated with very effective and relatively side-effect free medications. Hi, Moi. I don't wish to interfere with your well-intentioned desire to help Krueger reduce his paranoid ideation and other assorted internal demons. However, a few modifications may be necessary. Prozac's main use is in the treatment of depression, although it has been used for other conditions as well. Since it is, for many people, and "energizing" SSRI (serotonin reuptake inhibitor), it might not be wise to suggest this to one with what are sometimes called "active" symptoms of psychosis or thought disorder such as the paranoid conspiracy theiries frequently voiced by Krueger on RAO. There is the danger that it might actually exacerbate rather than diminish his rage and paranoia, especially in this environment, surrounded by so many real and imagined "enemies". As for Luvox, it's most widely known usage, AFAIK, is for the treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder. I suppose one could make the case, based on his compulsive ravings and rantings about vinyl equipment and media, as well as his compulsive need over a 7 year period to insult and attack more individual posters on RAO than anybody else (by a wide margin), that OCD is a reasonable label to attach tohis behavior. Be that as it may, I would respectfully suggest, that at least one of the more current anti-psychotic medications such as Zyprexa or Risperidol might be worth a clinical trial. Of course, these should be administered under a Board-certified psychiatrist's supervision and ongoing aqssessment. Bruce J. Richman |
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Parl Dermer wrote:
(Bruce J. Richman) wrote: Hi, Moi. I don't wish to interfere with your well-intentioned desire to help Krueger reduce his paranoid ideation and other assorted internal demons. However, a few modifications may be necessary. Prozac's main use is in the treatment of depression, although it has been used for other conditions as well. Since it is, for many people, and "energizing" SSRI (serotonin reuptake inhibitor), it might not be wise to suggest this to one with what are sometimes called "active" symptoms of psychosis or thought disorder such as the paranoid conspiracy theiries frequently voiced by Krueger on RAO. There is the danger that it might actually exacerbate rather than diminish his rage and paranoia, especially in this environment, surrounded by so many real and imagined "enemies". As for Luvox, it's most widely known usage, AFAIK, is for the treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder. I suppose one could make the case, based on his compulsive ravings and rantings about vinyl equipment and media, as well as his compulsive need over a 7 year period to insult and attack more individual posters on RAO than anybody else (by a wide margin), that OCD is a reasonable label to attach tohis behavior. Be that as it may, I would respectfully suggest, that at least one of the more current anti-psychotic medications such as Zyprexa or Risperidol might be worth a clinical trial. Of course, these should be administered under a Board-certified psychiatrist's supervision and ongoing aqssessment. I don't care what medication Krooger is put on so long as it renders him unable to operate a keyboard. Couldn't he then use voice recognition software? But seriouskly, I think your proposed additional treatment goal for him is one that most of us could buy off on. LOTS! Actually, in the days when drugs like Thorazine and Chlorpromazine, and to a lesser extent Haldol, were among the most widely used antipsychotic medications, the side effects might have given you your wish. Unless combind with certain other medications such as Cogentin or Artane (which were not availabe many years ago), many of the people who used these drugs developed mild-to-severe tremors in the hands and sometimes the mouth area as well - an unfortunate side effect associated with these drugs. Keyboard use would have been fairly difficult if not impossible. BTW, I think we forgot one of the most important drugs of all that he would benefit from - Sodium Pentothal, commonly known as "truth serum". If it works on him, it will work on anyone! Bruce J. Richman |
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Parl wrote:
(Bruce J. Richman) wrote: I don't care what medication Krooger is put on so long as it renders him unable to operate a keyboard. Couldn't he then use voice recognition software? Has anybody yet devised the algorithm that can convert "Sqauaaawk!!!" into decipherable text? jProve it. In addition, show that a Krooglish module is not available for VR software. But seriouskly, I think your proposed additional treatment goal for him is one that most of us could buy off on. LOTS! Actually, in the days when drugs like Thorazine and Chlorpromazine, and to a lesser extent Haldol, were among the most widely used antipsychotic medications, the side effects might have given you your wish. Unless combind with certain other medications such as Cogentin or Artane (which were not availabe many years ago), many of the people who used these drugs developed mild-to-severe tremors in the hands and sometimes the mouth area as well - an unfortunate side effect associated with these drugs. Keyboard use would have been fairly difficult if not impossible. I'm sure when a medical professional is given the rare opportunity to prescribe for Mr Krueger, a brief encounter with said individual will result in a serious review of the frankly miraculous properties of these antiquated chemicals. He is indeed, a "special" case. BTW, I think we forgot one of the most important drugs of all that he would benefit from - Sodium Pentothal, commonly known as "truth serum". If it works on him, it will work on anyone! Alas, Kroogers head is hard-wired. Bruce J. Richman |
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"Parl Dermer" skrev i en meddelelse
... "Hans" wrote: i had about 1600 lp's. Someone then decided to steal my entire collection together with the rest of my equipment, Frickin' hell.. that's quite a job! I'd live at ground floor, easy undisturbed access to the backside of the house, no doggies around at the neighbours, and i was admitted 3 days at the local hospital. They must have been pretty well organized because, apart from the lp's and record player they took the rest: A Phase Linear Dual 500, two Phase Linear 400's, a Phase Linear 4000, my electronic crossover and my JBL4333 in sand filled cabinets. None of the items ever surfaced again, and even today i haven't got a clue who i might have been. I really felt sick about it for a couple of years, and moved away from the neighbourhood at first chance. Hope this never happens to others. / Hans |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:59:46 +0100, Parl Dermer
wrote in : "Arny Krueger" wrote: I sold off my 1,200+ LP collection after I voluntarily obtained my first CD player because I quickly became disappointed with their sound quality. ....and you've been bitter ever since. Congratulations! Considering how bad early CD's and players were (horrendous quantization noise, up to and including "metallic, robotic" fadeouts and note releases) it appears "both stupid and bitter" might be a better description. Anyone who would trade a good sounding LP for the horrors of early digital either had a tin ear or a terrible analog playback system (or both). |
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"Moi" wrote in message
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:59:46 +0100, Parl Dermer wrote in : "Arny Krueger" wrote: I sold off my 1,200+ LP collection after I voluntarily obtained my first CD player because I quickly became disappointed with their sound quality. ....and you've been bitter ever since. Congratulations! I've been far happier with the sound quality of the playback of my recordings ever since. Considering how bad early CD's and players were (horrendous quantization noise, up to and including "metallic, robotic" fadeouts and note releases) it appears "both stupid and bitter" might be a better description. You shoulda gotten a good player the first time around, Moi. My first CD player cost me $900, and it was worth every penny. Anyone who would trade a good sounding LP for the horrors of early digital either had a tin ear or a terrible analog playback system (or both). And that is why Richman is now claiming that my last vinyl playback system before CDs is still too rich for his blood? LOL! |
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"Hans" wrote in message
k "Parl Dermer" skrev i en meddelelse ... "Hans" wrote: i had about 1600 lp's. Someone then decided to steal my entire collection together with the rest of my equipment, Frickin' hell.. that's quite a job! I'd live at ground floor, easy undisturbed access to the backside of the house, no doggies around at the neighbours, and i was admitted 3 days at the local hospital. They must have been pretty well organized because, apart from the lp's and record player they took the rest: A Phase Linear Dual 500, two Phase Linear 400's, a Phase Linear 4000, my electronic crossover and my JBL4333 in sand filled cabinets. What with all that shrieky-sounding legacy JBL garbage, the flame linear crap and the gritty-sounding vinyl, it sounds to me like someone was trying to do you a favor. Are you sure this wasn't an intervention staged by some of your audio friends? |
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"Hans" wrote in message . dk...
"Parl Dermer" skrev i en meddelelse ... "Hans" wrote: i had about 1600 lp's. Someone then decided to steal my entire collection together with the rest of my equipment, Frickin' hell.. that's quite a job! I'd live at ground floor, easy undisturbed access to the backside of the house, no doggies around at the neighbours, and i was admitted 3 days at the local hospital. They must have been pretty well organized because, apart from the lp's and record player they took the rest: A Phase Linear Dual 500, two Phase Linear 400's, a Phase Linear 4000, my electronic crossover and my JBL4333 in sand filled cabinets. None of the items ever surfaced again, and even today i haven't got a clue who i might have been. I really felt sick about it for a couple of years, and moved away from the neighbourhood at first chance. Hope this never happens to others. / Hans I had all my records stolen once in the 1970s, the day after moving into my first college apartment. I think it was someone in the neighborhood, after seeing us move in. Later that summer, someone else stole my KLH stereo and the records I bought to replace the first set. It was only around 50 records each time, but still... The second thief was probably a so-called friend, the rich kid in our crowd, as it turned out. One of his favorite hobbies, right after wrecking cars, was stealing from his friends (a bike from one girl, a car stereo from my roommate, for which he got caught, more I never knew about specifically). I don't know for sure, but he had dropped me off at my girlfriend's house in another neighborhood about an hour before the theft. The "friend" couldn't have been the first thief, as I didn't know him then. |
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If you clowns would develop some genuine musical taste you would not be in such a fix. Classical recordings (many of which I review and will continue to review for The Sensible Sound) are as good as ever, and many are better than ever. Even low-priced labels like Naxos are delivering superb performances and sound. Psudo-intelectual snobery noted. Tell us, do you actually write the reviews or do you just copy the liner notes and take credit for them? |
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"S888Wheel" wrote in message
If you clowns would develop some genuine musical taste you would not be in such a fix. Classical recordings (many of which I review and will continue to review for The Sensible Sound) are as good as ever, and many are better than ever. Even low-priced labels like Naxos are delivering superb performances and sound. Psudo-intelectual snobery noted. Tell us, do you actually write the reviews or do you just copy the liner notes and take credit for them? Do tell us about all the reviews you've had printed in *any* magazine, web site, or club meeting announcement, sockpuppet "Wheel". If you weren't so numb from the neck up sockpuppet Wheel that would have really hurt. But, I'm sure it causes you no pain whatsover. I can't hurt what's already dead! |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 06:12:01 +0200, "Hans"
wrote: "Parl Dermer" skrev i en meddelelse .. . "Hans" wrote: i had about 1600 lp's. Someone then decided to steal my entire collection together with the rest of my equipment, Frickin' hell.. that's quite a job! I'd live at ground floor, easy undisturbed access to the backside of the house, no doggies around at the neighbours, and i was admitted 3 days at the local hospital. They must have been pretty well organized because, apart from the lp's and record player they took the rest: A Phase Linear Dual 500, two Phase Linear 400's, a Phase Linear 4000, my electronic crossover and my JBL4333 in sand filled cabinets. Did you check the local body shop? Maybe they needed a welding device chuckle. None of the items ever surfaced again, and even today i haven't got a clue who i might have been. I really felt sick about it for a couple of years, and moved away from the neighbourhood at first chance. Hope this never happens to others. Seriously, that sucks. My house was broken into during the 70s. There was this guy that the press dubbed Bigfoot. That's because he kicked in doors (dead bolts were no match for this guy). I got home one day to find my two doors wide open (the security glass door was knocked almost off of its hinges - never figured out how he did it). On the floor was a trickle of LPs leading from the porch to the LP collection. Also gone were the amp and preamp. I guess he found the EPI EMT-5s (or whatever those puppies were called) just too darn heavy. Fortunately that hasn't happened since. Maybe it's the alarm system that I turn on when I leave the house - yes Powell, I'm not an idiot...or maybe it's just the alarm company signs in every window and on the lawn... |
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 05:14:14 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Hans" wrote in message . dk "Parl Dermer" skrev i en meddelelse ... "Hans" wrote: i had about 1600 lp's. Someone then decided to steal my entire collection together with the rest of my equipment, Frickin' hell.. that's quite a job! I'd live at ground floor, easy undisturbed access to the backside of the house, no doggies around at the neighbours, and i was admitted 3 days at the local hospital. They must have been pretty well organized because, apart from the lp's and record player they took the rest: A Phase Linear Dual 500, two Phase Linear 400's, a Phase Linear 4000, my electronic crossover and my JBL4333 in sand filled cabinets. What with all that shrieky-sounding legacy JBL garbage, the flame linear crap and the gritty-sounding vinyl, it sounds to me like someone was trying to do you a favor. Are you sure this wasn't an intervention staged by some of your audio friends? Apparently you've changed your tune since you wrote this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=phase+linear+arny&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=levO2.422%24wL5.135%40news.flash.n et&rnum=21 Me: I'm not talking about them "testing" like they etch glass, and so the reference to reference gear is irrelevant, I'm talking about the pain to the ears with some of that early gear, up to and including Phase Linear in the 70s. You: Some of that was real, some seems to have been imagined. Some writers thought that the PL 400 was a very transparent amp in its day. I've done some "just listening" comparisons involving it, and the result is that I don't slam it like others who have not had the educational experience seem to pleasure themselves by doing. Glad to see that you apparently now agree with my statement. And that you are now willing to slam them. Thank you. |
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:08:51 +0100, Thine Deville
wrote: On 08 Aug 2003 00:21:02 GMT, (Bruce J. Richman) wrote: I don't care what medication Krooger is put on so long as it renders him unable to operate a keyboard. Couldn't he then use voice recognition software? He'd need a specially EQd mike for that to work. But it would lie to him, so what's the pont? |
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"dave weil" wrote in message
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 05:14:14 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Hans" wrote in message k "Parl Dermer" skrev i en meddelelse ... "Hans" wrote: i had about 1600 lp's. Someone then decided to steal my entire collection together with the rest of my equipment, Frickin' hell.. that's quite a job! I'd live at ground floor, easy undisturbed access to the backside of the house, no doggies around at the neighbours, and i was admitted 3 days at the local hospital. They must have been pretty well organized because, apart from the lp's and record player they took the rest: A Phase Linear Dual 500, two Phase Linear 400's, a Phase Linear 4000, my electronic crossover and my JBL4333 in sand filled cabinets. What with all that shrieky-sounding legacy JBL garbage, the flame linear crap and the gritty-sounding vinyl, it sounds to me like someone was trying to do you a favor. Are you sure this wasn't an intervention staged by some of your audio friends? Apparently you've changed your tune since you wrote this: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ph...&ie=UTF-8&safe =off&selm=levO2.422%24wL5.135%40news.flash.net&rnu m=21 Me: I'm not talking about them "testing" like they etch glass, and so the reference to reference gear is irrelevant, I'm talking about the pain to the ears with some of that early gear, up to and including Phase Linear in the 70s. You: Some of that was real, some seems to have been imagined. Some writers thought that the PL 400 was a very transparent amp in its day. I've done some "just listening" comparisons involving it, and the result is that I don't slam it like others who have not had the educational experience seem to pleasure themselves by doing. Glad to see that you apparently now agree with my statement. And that you are now willing to slam them. As usual you can't read, Weil. This time you missed so much stuff that it's not even worth pointing it out to you. |
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Moi wrote:
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:59:46 +0100, Parl Dermer wrote in : "Arny Krueger" wrote: I sold off my 1,200+ LP collection after I voluntarily obtained my first CD player because I quickly became disappointed with their sound quality. ....and you've been bitter ever since. Congratulations! Considering how bad early CD's and players were (horrendous quantization noise, up to and including "metallic, robotic" fadeouts and note releases) it appears "both stupid and bitter" might be a better description. Anyone who would trade a good sounding LP for the horrors of early digital either had a tin ear or a terrible analog playback system (or both). In compulsive liar Krueger's case, bitter, stupid and both would appear to be the choices. Logic and Krueger are mutually exclusive. But dedicated anti-vinyl, atni-tube, anti-subjerctive-opinion, anti-individual preference zealots like Krueger don';t care about such trivial considerations as logic, evidence or truth since they've never met a lie they couldn't easily embrace and promote. Bruce J. Richman |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Moi" wrote in message On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:59:46 +0100, Parl Dermer wrote in : "Arny Krueger" wrote: I sold off my 1,200+ LP collection after I voluntarily obtained my first CD player because I quickly became disappointed with their sound quality. ....and you've been bitter ever since. Congratulations! I've been far happier with the sound quality of the playback of my recordings ever since. Considering how bad early CD's and players were (horrendous quantization noise, up to and including "metallic, robotic" fadeouts and note releases) it appears "both stupid and bitter" might be a better description. You shoulda gotten a good player the first time around, Moi. My first CD player cost me $900, and it was worth every penny. Anyone who would trade a good sounding LP for the horrors of early digital either had a tin ear or a terrible analog playback system (or both). And that is why Richman is now claiming that my last vinyl playback system before CDs is still too rich for his blood? LOL! Prove it. LOL! Obviously, compulsive liar Krueger is now pathetically and desperately trying to once agiain distort and misrepresent what I've said. And all because I pointed out that - as is fraudulent and deceptive havit - he tried to cherry pick an analogue prouct to "prove" his faulty argument that analog gear was more expensive or as expensive as reel-to-reel tape recorders such as Revox and Tandberg on an average basis 25 to 35 years ago. With each new lie, Krueger just adds to his lack of credibility. LOL! Bruce J. Richman |
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Thine wrote:
On 08 Aug 2003 00:21:02 GMT, (Bruce J. Richman) wrote: I don't care what medication Krooger is put on so long as it renders him unable to operate a keyboard. Couldn't he then use voice recognition software? He'd need a specially EQd mike for that to work. -- Thine I think you're 100% correct. Allowances for Krooglish, mendacity and shrillness would no doubt have to be made. Bruce J. Richman |
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Scott wrote:
If you clowns would develop some genuine musical taste you would not be in such a fix. Classical recordings (many of which I review and will continue to review for The Sensible Sound) are as good as ever, and many are better than ever. Even low-priced labels like Naxos are delivering superb performances and sound. Psudo-intelectual snobery noted. Tell us, do you actually write the reviews or do you just copy the liner notes and take credit for them? Need you ask? I have to confess to something like this, although not literally in my college days. I was a DJ at our college FM radio station, and hosted a classical music show. My lead-in was Ketelby's In A Persian Market - a piece I enjoy to this very day (on - gasp - a CD containing a nice collection of Ketelby selections - "In A Monastery Garden" on London 444786). By way of providing some information for the listeners concerning the composers and compositions I wis playing on the air, I would scan the record jackets, find some interesting biographical data or history about the particular composition, and then basically edit and paraphrase it on the air. It appears that some of the listeners assumed I had this encyclopedic knowledge about the Baroque, Romantic and Modern Eras of Classical music since I would then get frequent favorable comments about the show. Needless to say, I didn't disabuse them of this impression. (In point of fact, my mother worked for the Boston Symphony Orchestra when I was quite young, and I was brought up with a heavy exposure to classical music, played a couple of musical instruments in HS, college and professional bands, and sang in both glee clubs and choirs during those years. So I *did* have more than a smattering of knowledge in some of these area  ).Bruce J. Richman |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
And all because I pointed out that - as is fraudulent and deceptive havit - he tried to cherry pick an analogue product to "prove" his faulty argument that analog gear was more expensive or as expensive as reel-to-reel tape recorders such as Revox and Tandberg on an average basis 25 to 35 years ago. Yup, I dared to compare the price of my circa 1970 Thorens/SME/Shure vinyl rig to the Revox A77 I owned at the same time. Pardon me for thinking that these two popular somewhat upscale alternatives were not "cherry picked" but typical of the time. Let me guess. In 1970 Richman was listening to audio gear by Playskool. Or perhaps he was just a gleam in the eye of the Miami Dolphins... |
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Krueger continues his usual, rather predictable, character assassination
campaign: Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message And all because I pointed out that - as is fraudulent and deceptive havit - he tried to cherry pick an analogue product to "prove" his faulty argument that analog gear was more expensive or as expensive as reel-to-reel tape recorders such as Revox and Tandberg on an average basis 25 to 35 years ago. Yup, I dared to compare the price of my circa 1970 Thorens/SME/Shure vinyl rig to the Revox A77 I owned at the same time. Pardon me for thinking that these two popular somewhat upscale alternatives were not "cherry picked" but typical of the time. Let me guess. In 1970 Richman was listening to audio gear by Playskool. Or perhaps he was just a gleam in the eye of the Miami Dolphins... One can always tell when the slanderer, liar and delusional imbecile, Krueger, has been exposed for his usual fraudulent representations. He descends into the cesspool he's created on RAO with his usual personal, ad hominem attacks. Sadly, his creativity or supposed "wit" comes out more like imbecility nad apparent "****". This retarded sociopath can't even reasonably approximate my age, birthplace or anything else about me. His combination of stupidity and psychotic ramblings gains more exposure on RAO with every utterance of this compulsive liar and slanderer. His inability to even remotely counter the overwhelming evidence that has once again torpedoed his bull**** about analog audio equipment is duly noted. LOL! Bruce J. Richman |
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