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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
I have set up a NAD 3120 amp, a Nakamichi DR-3 cassette deck (both
recently bought on ebay), and my old Pioneer turntable (with new Ortofon cart.) to transfer cassettes and LPs to CD. I have successfully made CDs from LPs already. But I have a problem with the cassette hookups. The Nak has two sets of RCA jacks: "Line Output" and "Line Input", The NAD tape section has three connections: RCA jacks labeled "Tape Rec" and "Tape Play", and a third squat, black circular socket labeled "Tape Play/Rec". (I do not know anything about this third socket.) I have the NAD's "Tape Rec" connected to my soundcard's line in and it works great for LP recording. The problem is that when I connect the Nak's "Line Output" to the NAD's "Tape Play" there is no signal output. To get a recordable signal from the tape deck I have to connect the Nak's "Line Output" to the NAD's "AUX" jacks. Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? (And yes, I have engaged the "Tape" button on the front of the amp.) Is it acceptable to use the amp's "AUX" section to receive the cassette deck's "Line Output" signal? Many thanks. -Howard Griffin |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to
use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:56:34 +0100, Per Stromgren wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to
use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:56:34 +0100, Per Stromgren wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to
use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:56:34 +0100, Per Stromgren wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to
use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:56:34 +0100, Per Stromgren wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 11:42:46 -0500, Howard Griffin wrote: Is this normal? Shouldn't I be able to get a signal out of the cassette deck by connecting the deck's "Line Output" to the amp's "Tape Play"? Is something broken on the amp? No, the amp work as specified. Tape units are connected so that they receive signal from *other* sources (selected by an "Input" selector), but not from itself, it would not make sense. In your case, the tape unit is actually two: the Nak and your soundcard, but your amp does not know that. When you hit "tape" your amp will take its input from the "tape play" connector, but still send the selected source to "tape record". I would connect the tape deck directly to the sound card while transferring tapes, if I were you. Quote from the NAD 310 manual (found on http://www.nadelectronics.com/support/manuals.html) "TAPE MONITOR: The TAPE MONITOR button lets you listen to the output signal from a tape deck or signal processor connected to the TAPE jacks on the rear panel. Press IN to engage, press again (OUT) to disengage. When TAPE MONITOR is engaged, the source chosen by the INPUT SELECTOR continues to be fed to the TAPE REC jacks for recording or processing, but the signal returning from the tape recorder or signal processor is selected for listening. TAPE MONITOR has no effect on signals that are being recorded from the rear panel inputs to TAPE REC." Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Your amplifier is working properly. You are seeing a problem
because you are not using it as originally intended. Originally, the tape deck was the recording device and the amp is wired so that it never feeds the signal FROM the recorder back TO the recorder. This would not only not make sense, but would set up a horrendous feedback loop which could blow your speakers if you had them operating at a significant level. The solution is to just connect the output of your cassette deck to one of the other line-level inputs on the amplifier (like "Aux" as you suggested) and re-label the selector switch appropriately. This assumes that you have the "Tape Rec" connected ONLY to your computer, and NEVER to the cassette machine or you will encounter the aforementioned feedback loop. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Your amplifier is working properly. You are seeing a problem
because you are not using it as originally intended. Originally, the tape deck was the recording device and the amp is wired so that it never feeds the signal FROM the recorder back TO the recorder. This would not only not make sense, but would set up a horrendous feedback loop which could blow your speakers if you had them operating at a significant level. The solution is to just connect the output of your cassette deck to one of the other line-level inputs on the amplifier (like "Aux" as you suggested) and re-label the selector switch appropriately. This assumes that you have the "Tape Rec" connected ONLY to your computer, and NEVER to the cassette machine or you will encounter the aforementioned feedback loop. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Your amplifier is working properly. You are seeing a problem
because you are not using it as originally intended. Originally, the tape deck was the recording device and the amp is wired so that it never feeds the signal FROM the recorder back TO the recorder. This would not only not make sense, but would set up a horrendous feedback loop which could blow your speakers if you had them operating at a significant level. The solution is to just connect the output of your cassette deck to one of the other line-level inputs on the amplifier (like "Aux" as you suggested) and re-label the selector switch appropriately. This assumes that you have the "Tape Rec" connected ONLY to your computer, and NEVER to the cassette machine or you will encounter the aforementioned feedback loop. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
Your amplifier is working properly. You are seeing a problem
because you are not using it as originally intended. Originally, the tape deck was the recording device and the amp is wired so that it never feeds the signal FROM the recorder back TO the recorder. This would not only not make sense, but would set up a horrendous feedback loop which could blow your speakers if you had them operating at a significant level. The solution is to just connect the output of your cassette deck to one of the other line-level inputs on the amplifier (like "Aux" as you suggested) and re-label the selector switch appropriately. This assumes that you have the "Tape Rec" connected ONLY to your computer, and NEVER to the cassette machine or you will encounter the aforementioned feedback loop. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:09:20 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. That is correct, for this application. Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:09:20 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. That is correct, for this application. Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:09:20 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. That is correct, for this application. Per. |
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Please help me with cassette deck to amp connections
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:09:20 -0500, Howard Griffin
wrote: Thanks for the advice. So I guess the *only* way to set this up is to use the AUX section of the NAD, correct? It does seem to work fine this way. That is correct, for this application. Per. |
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