MOSFET wrote:
Radio or amp was not design to hook up directly to the battery.
The audio manufacture recommednation is purely just marketing
stragety
to lure those has no knowledge on electronic.

OK, that was just plain stupid. You are a troll. I give up.

MOSFET

That's the worst excuse! Come up with better one.

In article . com,
says...

MOSFET wrote:
Radio or amp was not design to hook up directly to the battery.
The audio manufacture recommednation is purely just marketing
stragety
to lure those has no knowledge on electronic.

OK, that was just plain stupid. You are a troll. I give up.

MOSFET

That's the worst excuse! Come up with better one.


Hooking up directly to the battery vs. getting power via the autos
electrical wiring is best. The cars electrical wiring was designed to
run the auto, not an after market amp. As long as there is a properly
sized and placed fuse between the battery and amp, and the remote turn-
on lead for the amp is hooked up correctly, usually the head unit, there
should be no problem. If installing a radio the remote turn-on would be
connected to the ignition switch.

Flame away....
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Address fake
until the SPAM goes away

What is it about the battery connection harmful, exactly? Feel free
to be
as technical as you like, using your "electrician" jargon where
necessary.

You don't need electrnonc knowledge. Anyone knows that you can't
connect a
extra wire to the battery. It will harm the electrical system and it
was never been part of the electronical sysystem anywhere. Moreover, it
will
harms the battery life. Simply is that!


What's the difference between attaching an extra wire to the battery
terminal and attaching an extra wire to the fuse panel, or to the lighter?

On 23 Feb 2005 18:43:54 -0800, wrote:


MZ wrote:
Even still, there's no way you could harm the radio by hooking it
up
directly to the battery. Some manufacturers actually recommend
this
for
some of their units (Pioneer, and I think Alpine, and Eclipse
units
from a
few years ago).

Radio or amp was not design to hook up directly to the battery.
The audio manufacture recommednation is purely just marketing
stragety
to lure those has no knowledge on electronic.

What is it about the battery connection harmful, exactly? Feel free
to be
as technical as you like, using your "electrician" jargon where
necessary.

You don't need electrnonc knowledge. Anyone knows that you can't
connect a
extra wire to the battery. It will harm the electrical system and it
was never been part of the electronical sysystem anywhere. Moreover, it
will
harms the battery life. Simply is that!


You really need to switch to name-brand crack...

Answer this simple question. If you were going to install an
amplifier that draws 80 amps of current, where would you connect the
amplifier power wire?


/Jules mode ON

Say "cigarette lighter", mother****er, I dare you...

/Jules mode OFF




Scott Gardner

"MZ" wrote in message
...
Even still, there's no way you could harm the radio by hooking it up
directly to the battery. Some manufacturers actually recommend this
for
some of their units (Pioneer, and I think Alpine, and Eclipse units
from a
few years ago).

Radio or amp was not design to hook up directly to the battery.
The audio manufacture recommednation is purely just marketing stragety
to lure those has no knowledge on electronic.

What is it about the battery connection harmful, exactly? Feel free to be
as technical as you like, using your "electrician" jargon where necessary.



Isn't it obvious? It's almost impossible to find wire nuts that fit on the
battery post.

[sq4u]

MIKE, your not listenin to me bro..........sure THEY (AMP MANUFACTURERS) say that it is stable to 2 ohms...hell it might even play at 1 ohm....or even a 1/4 ohm..for 10 minutes then, it shuts down......its not WHY they say it can play down to 2 ohms...its how "well" it plays and doesnt shut off when the amp asks for more juice....how well it plays is determined by the amp internals. If its crappy, mike...it wont handle the draw that the subs are ASKING......so the problem isnt.....why doesnt it play at 2 it says it can.. the answer is......check your ohms.....you have a bad amp that cant handle these ohms.......and you must either A. try a new amp with your same setup and I guarantee with a well made amp...will not shut off when given 14.4 volts and a 2 ohm setup.or even lower.....see ppi and many other amps have circuitry to play off low even 11 volts of power. older PPI AMPS have circuitry to put out most watts at 4 ohms !!!!!! instead of 2 like most others in the same class. all amps are different........ heres the kicker.......notice your lights dimming when the low note hits........you can avoid these intermittent power losses by adding a capacitor. a cap helps the amp keep a constant supply of JUICE from the battery to supply the amp with extra power it NEEDS to play. also mike, a good constant supply of power will give you more watts out of your amp because its fed more power and not struggling to play off low volts. And will in the longrun help your amp to keep playing for years to come.

[sq4u]

and for these guys that say you cant hook the radio DIRECTLY up to the battery.........of coarse you can!!!!!!!!!!!! the only thing we are doing when we hook it up is wire the IGNITION wire in to tell it turn ON when we turn the key in our car to acc. or on. see, when you hook you radio up, you ARE hooking it DIRECTLY to the battery, where do you think the power is coming from when the automobile IS NOT on, the sky?????the only thing you are changing, like I said is telling it to turn on when we turn our key. am I right guys....i know so......

"and for these guys that say you cant hook the radio DIRECTLY up to the
battery.........of coarse you can!!!!!!!!!!!! the only thing we are
doing when we hook it up is wire the IGNITION wire in to tell it turn ON
when we turn the key in our car to acc. or on. see, when you hook you
radio up, you ARE hooking it DIRECTLY to the battery, where do you think the
power is coming from when the automobile IS NOT on, the sky?????the only
thing you are changing, like I said is telling it to turn on when we turn
our key. am I right guys....i know so......"

Thanks for the info sq4u. However, it's only ONE moron that's arguing the
whole battery hookup issue ). We've already discussed
this and hopefully people aren't taking him seriously.

Tony


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2001 Nissan Maxima SE Anniversary Edition
Eclipse CD8454 Head Unit, Phoenix Gold ZX475ti, ZX450 and ZX500 Amplifiers,
Phoenix Gold EQ-232 30-Band EQ, Dynaudio System 360 Tri-Amped In Front and
Focal 130HCs For Rear Fill, 2 Soundstream EXACT10s In Aperiodic Enclosure

2001 Chevy S10 ZR2
Pioneer DEH-P9600MP (Just gettin' started)

I think the voltage to the amp is normal. As long as its stay above 12
theres nothing to worry about voltage wise. It may be overheating because
you are unknowingly running something like a 2-ohm load on 4 ohm output,
thus overloading it. You didnt mention anything of how you have the speakers
setup, if they are dual voice coils or two subs on a bridged amp than that
might cause the impedence problem i mentioned.

Below is an example of why you shouldnt believe everything you read on the
internet. This guy wrote some very bad advice, take the exact opposite of it
and go with that.



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Mike wrote:
How many volts is an amp suppose to recieve?

Would a capacitor / new battery fix the problem?

You don't think it's my alternator do you?

99 saturn SC2
96000 miles

It's all +12 volt.
I think the problem is the connection between the AMP main +12
to the battery. Don't make straight connection from AMP
the battery because the battery voltage fluctuate while you driving the
car while the AMP voltage fluctates. Just make connect to the regular
+12 voltage like a cigar lite voltage.