Wondering if anyone can give me any advice? Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier. Does anyone know if there are any converters that will
change the guitar lead connection into an rca (red/white) connection to
fit the sockets at the back of my AV amp? Also, will this work or will
the surround sound amp not provide any power to the guitar to make it
work? Complete novice to all this audio stuff so any info would be
appreciated. Cheers!

On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Wondering if anyone can give me any advice? Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier. Does anyone know if there are any converters that will
change the guitar lead connection into an rca (red/white) connection to
fit the sockets at the back of my AV amp? Also, will this work or will
the surround sound amp not provide any power to the guitar to make it
work? Complete novice to all this audio stuff so any info would be
appreciated. Cheers!

You should be able to buy a suitable adaptor in a Hi-Fi or hobby shop.
Your guitar doesn't need any power to make it work, so you will get a
sound out of this. A Hi Fi isn't like a guitar amp, though, so expect
the sound to be extremely dull and lifeless.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Wondering if anyone can give me any advice? Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier. Does anyone know if there are any converters that will
change the guitar lead connection into an rca (red/white) connection to
fit the sockets at the back of my AV amp? Also, will this work or will
the surround sound amp not provide any power to the guitar to make it
work? Complete novice to all this audio stuff so any info would be
appreciated. Cheers!

Your local electronic parts store will sell you a 1/4" jack plug
phono cable, or a simple 1/4" phono adaptor. It SHOULDN'T sound
very good. But today's amplifiers are very forgiving. It's cheap and
easy, so try.

Your guitar doesn't require power.

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:00:23 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 11:49:22 GMT, Don Pearce wrote:


On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Wondering if anyone can give me any advice? Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier. Does anyone know if there are any converters that will
change the guitar lead connection into an rca (red/white) connection to
fit the sockets at the back of my AV amp? Also, will this work or will
the surround sound amp not provide any power to the guitar to make it
work? Complete novice to all this audio stuff so any info would be
appreciated. Cheers!

You should be able to buy a suitable adaptor in a Hi-Fi or hobby shop.
Your guitar doesn't need any power to make it work, so you will get a
sound out of this. A Hi Fi isn't like a guitar amp, though, so expect
the sound to be extremely dull and lifeless.

Also expect it to be extremeley nonexistant.
The output of a guitar is on par with a microphone. You need additional
amplification.

No, a guitar has massively more output than a microphone. While it may
not play at maximum power, there will still be plenty of signal.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:12:42 +0200, François Yves Le Gal wrote:


On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:00:23 GMT, AZ Nomad wrote:

The output of a guitar is on par with a microphone.

A guitar pup puts out typically 200 mV (less for single coils, more for
humbuckers) from a high Z (6 to 7 K for SC's, 9 to 15 K for HB's), enough
juice for a line input with a highish input Z.

OK. More than a microphone, but still in need of amplification.
What does the typical 10K input impedance of an integrated amp do to the
guitar's frequency response?

In article , AZ Nomad wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 16:12:42 +0200, François Yves Le Gal
wrote:


On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 14:00:23 GMT, AZ Nomad wrote:

The output of a guitar is on par with a microphone.

A guitar pup puts out typically 200 mV (less for single coils, more for
humbuckers) from a high Z (6 to 7 K for SC's, 9 to 15 K for HB's), enough
juice for a line input with a highish input Z.

OK. More than a microphone, but still in need of amplification.
What does the typical 10K input impedance of an integrated amp do to the
guitar's frequency response?

I don't think it will do anything. Comprising a reverse RIAA passive attenuator
may have too much attenuation for a phono input, but a home amp may not
even have a phono input. A simple cheap mic mixer will probably do the trick.
The mic input may have the shield to gnd, but a ring to ground short may be needed.

greg

François Yves Le Gal wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier.

Even if it's possible, don't.

Why not? It'll work. It probably won't sound like he wants it to, but
so what? As long as he keeps the volume down it won't break anything.

Get a small dedicated guitar amplifier.

Agreed, that this is a better solution, but it's not what he asked.

//Walt

In article , wrote:
François Yves Le Gal wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier.

Even if it's possible, don't.

Why not? It'll work. It probably won't sound like he wants it to, but
so what? As long as he keeps the volume down it won't break anything.

Get a small dedicated guitar amplifier.

Agreed, that this is a better solution, but it's not what he asked.

This would be ideal if it was allready built.....................
http://www.apogeekits.com/guitar_preamp.htm

greg

In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
François Yves Le Gal wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier.

Even if it's possible, don't.

Why not? It'll work. It probably won't sound like he wants it to, but
so what? As long as he keeps the volume down it won't break anything.

Get a small dedicated guitar amplifier.

Agreed, that this is a better solution, but it's not what he asked.

This would be ideal if it was allready built.....................
http://www.apogeekits.com/guitar_preamp.htm

With this one can easily blow out your home stereo system
speakers.

greg

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:59:58 GMT, GregS wrote:


In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
François Yves Le Gal wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier.

Even if it's possible, don't.

Why not? It'll work. It probably won't sound like he wants it to, but
so what? As long as he keeps the volume down it won't break anything.

Get a small dedicated guitar amplifier.

Agreed, that this is a better solution, but it's not what he asked.

This would be ideal if it was allready built.....................
http://www.apogeekits.com/guitar_preamp.htm

With this one can easily blow out your home stereo system
speakers.

Set the volume control to somewhere other than 10 and you'll be ok.

In article , AZ Nomad wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:59:58 GMT, GregS wrote:


In article , (GregS)
wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
François Yves Le Gal wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier.

Even if it's possible, don't.

Why not? It'll work. It probably won't sound like he wants it to, but
so what? As long as he keeps the volume down it won't break anything.

Get a small dedicated guitar amplifier.

Agreed, that this is a better solution, but it's not what he asked.

This would be ideal if it was allready built.....................
http://www.apogeekits.com/guitar_preamp.htm

With this one can easily blow out your home stereo system
speakers.

Set the volume control to somewhere other than 10 and you'll be ok.

11 ??

How about 50 ??

OK 0-10.


greg

In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article , AZ Nomad
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 18:59:58 GMT, GregS wrote:


In article ,
(GregS)
wrote:
In article ,

wrote:
François Yves Le Gal wrote:
On 5 Apr 2006 04:43:31 -0700, wrote:

Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier.

Even if it's possible, don't.

Why not? It'll work. It probably won't sound like he wants it to, but
so what? As long as he keeps the volume down it won't break anything.

Get a small dedicated guitar amplifier.

Agreed, that this is a better solution, but it's not what he asked.

This would be ideal if it was allready built.....................
http://www.apogeekits.com/guitar_preamp.htm

With this one can easily blow out your home stereo system
speakers.

Set the volume control to somewhere other than 10 and you'll be ok.

11 ??

How about 50 ??

OK 0-10.

My Hitachi preamp goes from minus something to 0. In that case don't use
0 attenuation.

greg

François Yves Le Gal wrote:

Plugging a guitar - or any electric instrument - in a hifi rig is a sure
recipe for disaster.

Oh, good grief. Here we go again with the "sure recipe for disaster".
Why is it a sure recipe for disaster?

Do you wear a helmet in the bathtub?


// Walt

You can get a RCA to 1/4 inch adapter at any audio stores. However it will
sound lifeless and dull because hi fi amps doesnt amp guitars too well. So
what you can do is get an EQ pedal or something then plug it into your hi
fi. Alternatvely, you can get a Line 6 POD or any other multi effect pedal
and you will get real guitar sounds. What the EQ pedal does is acts like a
preamp and you can connect other effects such as distortion to it to make it
sound guitar like. I tried guitar into hi fi and computer soundcards, it
sounds like crap, have to really turn it up to get any sort of volume cause
the signal is too weak. However if your guitar has active pickup then thats
another story, or if you're using an acoustic electric with a transducer
pickup, then it will sound right with hi fi's.

--
TAI FU
wrote in message
ups.com...
Wondering if anyone can give me any advice? Basically I want to try
and plug my electric guitar into my home cinema surround-sound AV
amplifier. Does anyone know if there are any converters that will
change the guitar lead connection into an rca (red/white) connection to
fit the sockets at the back of my AV amp? Also, will this work or will
the surround sound amp not provide any power to the guitar to make it
work? Complete novice to all this audio stuff so any info would be
appreciated. Cheers!

just plug an EQ pedal between the guitar and the hi fi, that should do the
trick... probably cheaper than a mixer...

--
TAI FU
"GregS" wrote in message

I don't think it will do anything. Comprising a reverse RIAA passive
attenuator
may have too much attenuation for a phono input, but a home amp may not
even have a phono input. A simple cheap mic mixer will probably do the
trick.
The mic input may have the shield to gnd, but a ring to ground short may
be needed.

greg

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the answers. The convo went slightly (by about a mile
lol!) over my head in places I must admit, but it was all very useful
stuff. I do actually already have a guitar amplifier, but I was just
curious to see what it would sound like coming out of my surround sound
system. The thought of being surrounded by wonderous guitar music is
somewhat dashed by the warnings of a dull response, but I shall give it
a go all the same! Will let you know how it turns out when I get
around to buying the converter.

Thanks again!

In article .com, wrote:
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the answers. The convo went slightly (by about a mile
lol!) over my head in places I must admit, but it was all very useful
stuff. I do actually already have a guitar amplifier, but I was just
curious to see what it would sound like coming out of my surround sound
system. The thought of being surrounded by wonderous guitar music is
somewhat dashed by the warnings of a dull response, but I shall give it
a go all the same! Will let you know how it turns out when I get
around to buying the converter.

If you got it in there, being a mono source would create a problem getting sound to come out
in any processed form. Youu need at least a stereo source.

greg

GregS wrote:

wrote:

Thanks for all the answers. The convo went slightly (by about a mile
lol!) over my head in places I must admit, but it was all very useful
stuff. I do actually already have a guitar amplifier, but I was just
curious to see what it would sound like coming out of my surround sound
system. The thought of being surrounded by wonderous guitar music is
somewhat dashed by the warnings of a dull response, but I shall give it
a go all the same! Will let you know how it turns out when I get
around to buying the converter.

If you got it in there, being a mono source would create a problem getting sound to come out
in any processed form. Youu need at least a stereo source.

Agreed. Nothing should come out of the surround speakers with a mono
source. There are stereo effects units that would probably sound fairly
interesting - you could probably find an older one on Ebay for not much
$$$. And such a unit would provide proper loading of the guitar pickup,
a bit of gain and a more appropriate signal (low or lowish Z) for the
preamp.

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 23:38:50 +0200, François Yves Le Gal
wrote:

As long as he keeps the volume down it won't break anything.

Plugging a guitar - or any electric instrument - in a hifi rig is a sure
recipe for disaster.

Ooh...you're SOOOO dramatic! :-)
What disaster? Fire, earthquake, a plague of locusts? What's the
worst that can happen? It won't play, or it won't sound very good.
Relax, dear :-)