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Paul Mccartney's drumming on his solo albums
Any of you by chance know how Mccartney set up his own drumming on his solo albums?
Was he playing to a click track or a performance or?? |
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"maxdm" le.com... Any of you by chance know how Mccartney set up his own drumming on his solo albums? Was he playing to a click track or a performance or?? He has used band members,studio musicians and on many occations played the drums himself. with beatles he played on songs like: Back in USSR Dear Prudence Martha My dear Ballad of John and Yoko with no clicktrack involved Early solo-McCartney drumming(as on McCartney I) has no click track You can hear tempo changes/drifting in songs as Hot as Sun. On later albums as Flaming Pie he uses click track On the titlesong you can hear the click track bleeding/very weak) through his cans/headphones. Band on the Run is McCartney on drums. With use of early "drum-machines". He has a Ludwig drum kit(a Ringo replica) in his studio. Macca is a good drummer on basic songs. As he said himself: No shuffle things but he's OK. If you're talking about recording drums he has used two mics on the whole set on McCartney I and II On the others there is multi mic technique. |
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"maxdm" le.com... Any of you by chance know how Mccartney set up his own drumming on his solo albums? Was he playing to a click track or a performance or?? He has used band members,studio musicians and on many occations played the drums himself. with beatles he played on songs like: Back in USSR Dear Prudence Martha My dear Ballad of John and Yoko with no clicktrack involved Early solo-McCartney drumming(as on McCartney I) has no click track You can hear tempo changes/drifting in songs as Hot as Sun. On later albums as Flaming Pie he uses click track On the titlesong you can hear the click track bleeding/very weak) through his cans/headphones. Band on the Run is McCartney on drums. With use of early "drum-machines". He has a Ludwig drum kit(a Ringo replica) in his studio. Macca is a good drummer on basic songs. As he said himself: No shuffle things but he's OK. If you're talking about recording drums he has used two mics on the whole set on McCartney I and II On the others there is multi mic technique. |
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. searching for peace, love and quality footwear guido http://www.guidotoons.com http://www.theloniousmoog.com http://www.luckymanclark.com |
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. searching for peace, love and quality footwear guido http://www.guidotoons.com http://www.theloniousmoog.com http://www.luckymanclark.com |
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I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to
play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd, Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music. Ex...Time from Pink Floyd Krubb JWelsh3374 a =E9crit : = I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Ste= vie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in thei= r head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like t= hat to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. = searching for peace, love and quality footwear guido = http://www.guidotoons.com http://www.theloniousmoog.com http://www.luckymanclark.com |
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I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to
play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd, Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music. Ex...Time from Pink Floyd Krubb JWelsh3374 a =E9crit : = I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Ste= vie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in thei= r head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like t= hat to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. = searching for peace, love and quality footwear guido = http://www.guidotoons.com http://www.theloniousmoog.com http://www.luckymanclark.com |
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"prodmac" wrote in message ... I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd, Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music. Ex...Time from Pink Floyd Krubb ...... and Bob Seibenberg from Supertramp is one of my favs. The lack of a click allows far more interesting music in many cases ! geoff |
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"prodmac" wrote in message ... I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd, Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music. Ex...Time from Pink Floyd Krubb ...... and Bob Seibenberg from Supertramp is one of my favs. The lack of a click allows far more interesting music in many cases ! geoff |
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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
... I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. I do the same thing. In fact, I often sit down to the drums and play the song without the track running because I know I have parts to work out. I may spend half a day on the drums for one song. It may not be good drumming, but at least I know exactly what I'm doing; what I want to hear. Generally, even if it's not perfect it works for me. Then again, I'm not putting out Lucky Man Clark, either! g My Hot End of a Gun CD has a number of synth and real drums, both of which were me, and some tunes which are others playing. Sometimes I actually forget which is which. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio searching for peace, love and quality footwear guido http://www.guidotoons.com http://www.theloniousmoog.com http://www.luckymanclark.com |
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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
... I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. I do the same thing. In fact, I often sit down to the drums and play the song without the track running because I know I have parts to work out. I may spend half a day on the drums for one song. It may not be good drumming, but at least I know exactly what I'm doing; what I want to hear. Generally, even if it's not perfect it works for me. Then again, I'm not putting out Lucky Man Clark, either! g My Hot End of a Gun CD has a number of synth and real drums, both of which were me, and some tunes which are others playing. Sometimes I actually forget which is which. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio searching for peace, love and quality footwear guido http://www.guidotoons.com http://www.theloniousmoog.com http://www.luckymanclark.com |
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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message ... I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found that it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in good time. |
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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message ... I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found that it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in good time. |
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"Raymond" wrote in message
... "JWelsh3374" wrote in message ... I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found that it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in good time. I remember hearing that at least on some of the tunes Stevie Wonder would have a group play the track (or a layout) initially and then he would replace each instrument one by one. With some of his stuff I think that (or at the very least a click) would be absolutely necessary. |
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"Raymond" wrote in message
... "JWelsh3374" wrote in message ... I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me. Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found that it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in good time. I remember hearing that at least on some of the tunes Stevie Wonder would have a group play the track (or a layout) initially and then he would replace each instrument one by one. With some of his stuff I think that (or at the very least a click) would be absolutely necessary. |
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