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Default Paul Mccartney's drumming on his solo albums

Any of you by chance know how Mccartney set up his own drumming on his solo albums?
Was he playing to a click track or a performance or??
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"maxdm"
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Any of you by chance know how Mccartney set up his own drumming on his

solo albums?
Was he playing to a click track or a performance or??


He has used band members,studio musicians and on many occations played the
drums himself.

with beatles he played on songs like:
Back in USSR
Dear Prudence
Martha My dear
Ballad of John and Yoko
with no clicktrack involved

Early solo-McCartney drumming(as on McCartney I) has no click track
You can hear tempo changes/drifting in songs as Hot as Sun.
On later albums as Flaming Pie he uses click track
On the titlesong you can hear the click track bleeding/very weak) through
his cans/headphones.

Band on the Run is McCartney on drums. With use of early "drum-machines".

He has a Ludwig drum kit(a Ringo replica) in his studio.
Macca is a good drummer on basic songs.
As he said himself: No shuffle things
but he's OK.

If you're talking about recording drums he has used two mics on the whole
set on McCartney I and II
On the others there is multi mic technique.


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"maxdm"
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Any of you by chance know how Mccartney set up his own drumming on his

solo albums?
Was he playing to a click track or a performance or??


He has used band members,studio musicians and on many occations played the
drums himself.

with beatles he played on songs like:
Back in USSR
Dear Prudence
Martha My dear
Ballad of John and Yoko
with no clicktrack involved

Early solo-McCartney drumming(as on McCartney I) has no click track
You can hear tempo changes/drifting in songs as Hot as Sun.
On later albums as Flaming Pie he uses click track
On the titlesong you can hear the click track bleeding/very weak) through
his cans/headphones.

Band on the Run is McCartney on drums. With use of early "drum-machines".

He has a Ludwig drum kit(a Ringo replica) in his studio.
Macca is a good drummer on basic songs.
As he said himself: No shuffle things
but he's OK.

If you're talking about recording drums he has used two mics on the whole
set on McCartney I and II
On the others there is multi mic technique.


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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


searching for peace, love and quality footwear
guido

http://www.guidotoons.com
http://www.theloniousmoog.com
http://www.luckymanclark.com


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I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to
play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or
rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd,
Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and
they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music.
Ex...Time from Pink Floyd
Krubb

JWelsh3374 a =E9crit :
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Ste=

vie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in thei=

r head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like t=

hat to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.
=


searching for peace, love and quality footwear
guido
=


http://www.guidotoons.com
http://www.theloniousmoog.com
http://www.luckymanclark.com

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I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to
play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or
rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd,
Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and
they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music.
Ex...Time from Pink Floyd
Krubb

JWelsh3374 a =E9crit :
=


I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Ste=

vie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in thei=

r head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like t=

hat to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.
=


searching for peace, love and quality footwear
guido
=


http://www.guidotoons.com
http://www.theloniousmoog.com
http://www.luckymanclark.com

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"prodmac" wrote in message
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I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to
play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or
rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd,
Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and
they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music.
Ex...Time from Pink Floyd
Krubb

...... and Bob Seibenberg from Supertramp is one of my favs. The lack of
a click allows far more interesting music in many cases !


geoff


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"prodmac" wrote in message
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I think that drummers who know more about music and songwriting tend to
play way more musically than jthe ones just trying to provide a beat or
rythm behind the other musicians...Listen to Zeppelin, Beatles, Floyd,
Eagles...The drummers in those band obviously knew a lot about music and
they just didn't only provide loopstyle beats. They played music.
Ex...Time from Pink Floyd
Krubb

...... and Bob Seibenberg from Supertramp is one of my favs. The lack of
a click allows far more interesting music in many cases !


geoff


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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their

head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that

to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


I do the same thing. In fact, I often sit down to the drums and play the
song without the track running because I know I have parts to work out. I
may spend half a day on the drums for one song. It may not be good
drumming, but at least I know exactly what I'm doing; what I want to hear.
Generally, even if it's not perfect it works for me.

Then again, I'm not putting out Lucky Man Clark, either! g My Hot End of
a Gun CD has a number of synth and real drums, both of which were me, and
some tunes which are others playing. Sometimes I actually forget which is
which.

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SirMusic Studio



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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their

head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that

to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


I do the same thing. In fact, I often sit down to the drums and play the
song without the track running because I know I have parts to work out. I
may spend half a day on the drums for one song. It may not be good
drumming, but at least I know exactly what I'm doing; what I want to hear.
Generally, even if it's not perfect it works for me.

Then again, I'm not putting out Lucky Man Clark, either! g My Hot End of
a Gun CD has a number of synth and real drums, both of which were me, and
some tunes which are others playing. Sometimes I actually forget which is
which.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio



searching for peace, love and quality footwear
guido

http://www.guidotoons.com
http://www.theloniousmoog.com
http://www.luckymanclark.com



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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their

head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that

to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found that
it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in good
time.
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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney, Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their

head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like that

to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found that
it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in good
time.
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"Raymond" wrote in message
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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney,
Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their

head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like
that

to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found
that
it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in
good
time.


I remember hearing that at least on some of the tunes Stevie Wonder would
have a group play the track (or a layout) initially and then he would
replace each instrument one by one. With some of his stuff I think that (or
at the very least a click) would be absolutely necessary.


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"Raymond" wrote in message
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"JWelsh3374" wrote in message
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I think alot of the singer/songwriters that play drums...McCartney,
Stevie
Wonder, Todd Rundgren... kind of play the drum track to a track in their

head
and add other stuff later. Could be wrong...but it really sounds like
that

to
me. I've done it myself that way, so makes sense to me.


Did it like this a millions times, although I don't play anymore I found
that
it was the only way to record one track at a time and keep everything in
good
time.


I remember hearing that at least on some of the tunes Stevie Wonder would
have a group play the track (or a layout) initially and then he would
replace each instrument one by one. With some of his stuff I think that (or
at the very least a click) would be absolutely necessary.


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