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I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the
LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ref: http://classicalcdreview.com/1812.htm Per. |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:30:51 -0500, Kalman Rubinson
wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. Aha, *that* ADC! I remember I had a one of those, a 25? Or was it a 24? Time flies, and cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Thanks! What about their capabilities in the low end at high levels? Could they cope with cannons? Per. |
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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:30:51 -0500, Kalman Rubinson
wrote: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. Aha, *that* ADC! I remember I had a one of those, a 25? Or was it a 24? Time flies, and cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Thanks! What about their capabilities in the low end at high levels? Could they cope with cannons? Per. |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/3/2003 2:30 PM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Still later, they had turntables, amps and CD players OEM-ed for them and, finally, the name was bought and now adorns some rather depressing-looking junk. Sic transit.......... Kal Quite true, Kal. My wife and several friends worked there in the 1970's. I still have a few of their speaker cabinets kicking around in the backs of closets - all blown. As far as ADC speakers being able to reproduce cannons at "realistic" levels, forget it. The people working at ADC included some musicians who all seemed to understand that these were "so-so" speakers. Some of them owned Altec Lansing speakers - far superior to anything that ADC ever attempted. Some of those were REAL studio monitors. ADC never made anything that could be considered a studio monitor by real work horse studios - Telarc notwithstanding. I won't even tell you how bad the ADC turntables and cartridges were. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/3/2003 2:30 PM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Still later, they had turntables, amps and CD players OEM-ed for them and, finally, the name was bought and now adorns some rather depressing-looking junk. Sic transit.......... Kal Quite true, Kal. My wife and several friends worked there in the 1970's. I still have a few of their speaker cabinets kicking around in the backs of closets - all blown. As far as ADC speakers being able to reproduce cannons at "realistic" levels, forget it. The people working at ADC included some musicians who all seemed to understand that these were "so-so" speakers. Some of them owned Altec Lansing speakers - far superior to anything that ADC ever attempted. Some of those were REAL studio monitors. ADC never made anything that could be considered a studio monitor by real work horse studios - Telarc notwithstanding. I won't even tell you how bad the ADC turntables and cartridges were. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/3/2003 2:30 PM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Still later, they had turntables, amps and CD players OEM-ed for them and, finally, the name was bought and now adorns some rather depressing-looking junk. Sic transit.......... Kal Quite true, Kal. My wife and several friends worked there in the 1970's. I still have a few of their speaker cabinets kicking around in the backs of closets - all blown. As far as ADC speakers being able to reproduce cannons at "realistic" levels, forget it. The people working at ADC included some musicians who all seemed to understand that these were "so-so" speakers. Some of them owned Altec Lansing speakers - far superior to anything that ADC ever attempted. Some of those were REAL studio monitors. ADC never made anything that could be considered a studio monitor by real work horse studios - Telarc notwithstanding. I won't even tell you how bad the ADC turntables and cartridges were. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/3/2003 2:30 PM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Your idea of "excellent" must be much different than mine. I've never heard an ADC product that I liked in any way - not even in their own demo room! Commercially successful? How so? Didn't the company go out of business after that? Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/3/2003 2:30 PM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Your idea of "excellent" must be much different than mine. I've never heard an ADC product that I liked in any way - not even in their own demo room! Commercially successful? How so? Didn't the company go out of business after that? Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/3/2003 2:30 PM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:15:40 GMT, (Per Stromgren) wrote: I just bought a CD copy of the Telarc "1812" recording. Having had the LP version of this recording, I always wondered what kind of speakers they had monitoring this one, as there are cannon shots as part of the recording. The booklet says ADC speakers, what are they? Can they actually reproduce these caccons at anything like realistic levels? ADC (Audio Dynamics Corporation) was a New Milford, CT-based company run by the estimable Peter Pritchard. Their major products were phono cartridges. They also made speaker systems, initially with KEF drivers bu, later with other OEM parts. The early ones were excellent and the later ones commercially successful. Your idea of "excellent" must be much different than mine. I've never heard an ADC product that I liked in any way - not even in their own demo room! Commercially successful? How so? Didn't the company go out of business after that? Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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"StuWelwood" wrote in message ... .. I won't even tell you how bad the ADC turntables and cartridges were. The ADC 25 and XLM series, while fragile, were state-of-the-art in those days. I have a taped comparison of the 25 up against the top of the line Pickering and a Ortofon SL-15 from 1966, and the ADC wins. I also have a working XLMII that I use occasionally, and while it is slightly more colored than modern cartridges it has a dimensionality and overall musicality that is beguiling. I used the 25 in a Pritchard wooden, gimbaled arm. The headshell fitting on this was badly designed and could easily become loose. Glue took care of that. Other than that, it was a state of the art low mass arm that got good things from the company's top cartridges. The Black Widow a bit later did the same and the cartridges were magic with the straight-line Rabco's. Never had any experience with their turntables....they did look cheesy...but they were a decade later at the end of the company's life. The mid-late sixties and early '70's were the company's heyday. |
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"StuWelwood" wrote in message ... .. I won't even tell you how bad the ADC turntables and cartridges were. The ADC 25 and XLM series, while fragile, were state-of-the-art in those days. I have a taped comparison of the 25 up against the top of the line Pickering and a Ortofon SL-15 from 1966, and the ADC wins. I also have a working XLMII that I use occasionally, and while it is slightly more colored than modern cartridges it has a dimensionality and overall musicality that is beguiling. I used the 25 in a Pritchard wooden, gimbaled arm. The headshell fitting on this was badly designed and could easily become loose. Glue took care of that. Other than that, it was a state of the art low mass arm that got good things from the company's top cartridges. The Black Widow a bit later did the same and the cartridges were magic with the straight-line Rabco's. Never had any experience with their turntables....they did look cheesy...but they were a decade later at the end of the company's life. The mid-late sixties and early '70's were the company's heyday. |
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"StuWelwood" wrote in message ... .. I won't even tell you how bad the ADC turntables and cartridges were. The ADC 25 and XLM series, while fragile, were state-of-the-art in those days. I have a taped comparison of the 25 up against the top of the line Pickering and a Ortofon SL-15 from 1966, and the ADC wins. I also have a working XLMII that I use occasionally, and while it is slightly more colored than modern cartridges it has a dimensionality and overall musicality that is beguiling. I used the 25 in a Pritchard wooden, gimbaled arm. The headshell fitting on this was badly designed and could easily become loose. Glue took care of that. Other than that, it was a state of the art low mass arm that got good things from the company's top cartridges. The Black Widow a bit later did the same and the cartridges were magic with the straight-line Rabco's. Never had any experience with their turntables....they did look cheesy...but they were a decade later at the end of the company's life. The mid-late sixties and early '70's were the company's heyday. |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/4/2003 10:02 AM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On 04 Dec 2003 16:03:55 GMT, (StuWelwood) wrote: Your idea of "excellent" must be much different than mine. I've never heard an ADC product that I liked in any way - not even in their own demo room! I recall (from dim memory) the ADC-18 and ADC-19, as sounding very nice but these were quite rare. ADC made and sold many more of the 300 and 400 series which sucked. Especially, those with the -AX suffix. Same for the cartridges. The original ADC-1 was revolutionary. Commercially successful? How so? Didn't the company go out of business after that? No. They went out of business more than a decade after the introduction of these. 10years is a pretty good run in this business. Kal After talking with my wife about it, I now see the time line much better. By the mid 1970s, ADC was no longer making any of their speaker systems themselves. I must admit that, other than in their own demo room, I probably have never heard any of the earlier models. It sounds like they were considerably better. I'll keep my eyes (and ears) open for any that pop up, just to see if I can spot some . But for my own uses as a studio monitor, I wouldn't even consider using ADC speakers. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/4/2003 10:02 AM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On 04 Dec 2003 16:03:55 GMT, (StuWelwood) wrote: Your idea of "excellent" must be much different than mine. I've never heard an ADC product that I liked in any way - not even in their own demo room! I recall (from dim memory) the ADC-18 and ADC-19, as sounding very nice but these were quite rare. ADC made and sold many more of the 300 and 400 series which sucked. Especially, those with the -AX suffix. Same for the cartridges. The original ADC-1 was revolutionary. Commercially successful? How so? Didn't the company go out of business after that? No. They went out of business more than a decade after the introduction of these. 10years is a pretty good run in this business. Kal After talking with my wife about it, I now see the time line much better. By the mid 1970s, ADC was no longer making any of their speaker systems themselves. I must admit that, other than in their own demo room, I probably have never heard any of the earlier models. It sounds like they were considerably better. I'll keep my eyes (and ears) open for any that pop up, just to see if I can spot some . But for my own uses as a studio monitor, I wouldn't even consider using ADC speakers. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/4/2003 10:02 AM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On 04 Dec 2003 16:03:55 GMT, (StuWelwood) wrote: Your idea of "excellent" must be much different than mine. I've never heard an ADC product that I liked in any way - not even in their own demo room! I recall (from dim memory) the ADC-18 and ADC-19, as sounding very nice but these were quite rare. ADC made and sold many more of the 300 and 400 series which sucked. Especially, those with the -AX suffix. Same for the cartridges. The original ADC-1 was revolutionary. Commercially successful? How so? Didn't the company go out of business after that? No. They went out of business more than a decade after the introduction of these. 10years is a pretty good run in this business. Kal After talking with my wife about it, I now see the time line much better. By the mid 1970s, ADC was no longer making any of their speaker systems themselves. I must admit that, other than in their own demo room, I probably have never heard any of the earlier models. It sounds like they were considerably better. I'll keep my eyes (and ears) open for any that pop up, just to see if I can spot some . But for my own uses as a studio monitor, I wouldn't even consider using ADC speakers. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/5/2003 10:30 AM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On 05 Dec 2003 16:26:00 GMT, (StuWelwood) wrote: After talking with my wife about it, I now see the time line much better. By the mid 1970s, ADC was no longer making any of their speaker systems themselves. I must admit that, other than in their own demo room, I probably have never heard any of the earlier models. It sounds like they were considerably better. I'll keep my eyes (and ears) open for any that pop up, just to see if I can spot some . But for my own uses as a studio monitor, I wouldn't even consider using ADC speakers. It's a generational thing. ;-) Kal What generation are you talking about? Human? Equipment? I just turned 50, and I've been playing guitar for 39 years. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/5/2003 10:30 AM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On 05 Dec 2003 16:26:00 GMT, (StuWelwood) wrote: After talking with my wife about it, I now see the time line much better. By the mid 1970s, ADC was no longer making any of their speaker systems themselves. I must admit that, other than in their own demo room, I probably have never heard any of the earlier models. It sounds like they were considerably better. I'll keep my eyes (and ears) open for any that pop up, just to see if I can spot some . But for my own uses as a studio monitor, I wouldn't even consider using ADC speakers. It's a generational thing. ;-) Kal What generation are you talking about? Human? Equipment? I just turned 50, and I've been playing guitar for 39 years. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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From: Kalman Rubinson
Date: 12/5/2003 10:30 AM Mountain Standard Time Message-id: On 05 Dec 2003 16:26:00 GMT, (StuWelwood) wrote: After talking with my wife about it, I now see the time line much better. By the mid 1970s, ADC was no longer making any of their speaker systems themselves. I must admit that, other than in their own demo room, I probably have never heard any of the earlier models. It sounds like they were considerably better. I'll keep my eyes (and ears) open for any that pop up, just to see if I can spot some . But for my own uses as a studio monitor, I wouldn't even consider using ADC speakers. It's a generational thing. ;-) Kal What generation are you talking about? Human? Equipment? I just turned 50, and I've been playing guitar for 39 years. Stuart Welwood http://members.aol.com/StuWelwood |
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