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bose for car audio
sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty
good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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Based on the online store @ bose.com, I would say the automotive side of the
company deals only with factory installed systems, not end-user component sales. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Onyi C. Ejiasa BlaQmail.com - Empower your e-mail. -------------------------------------------------------------- Vote for my install @ sounddomain.com! http://www.sounddomain.com/id/blaqaltima -------------------------------------------------------------- "tim" wrote in message ... sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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I don't believe they are available for general sale. According to someone I
spoke with at Bose a few years ago, they do not manufacture car audio products for the public...only directly to the car manufacturer for their integrated systems. Also, it should be noted that all the Bose components in my 2001 Maxima are made by Clarion. And, in my opinion, you can achieve MUCH better sound by buying aftermarket products. Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "tim" wrote in message ... sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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Dang, if you thought those $2 Bose paper cone speakers sounded good just
wait until you hear some GOOD speakers..with tweeters and everything! "tim" wrote in message ... sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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Maybe he likes them BECAUSE they don't have tweeters.
Paul Vina "Pug Fugley" wrote in message ink.net... Dang, if you thought those $2 Bose paper cone speakers sounded good just wait until you hear some GOOD speakers..with tweeters and everything! "tim" wrote in message ... sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:HFJLb.9756$5V2.16076@attbi_s53... Maybe he likes them BECAUSE they don't have tweeters. Yeah, high frequencies are way overrated! Paul Vina "Pug Fugley" wrote in message ink.net... Dang, if you thought those $2 Bose paper cone speakers sounded good just wait until you hear some GOOD speakers..with tweeters and everything! "tim" wrote in message ... sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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Who are you to tell him what he likes and dislikes? Maybe that's why people
on this forum wouldn't wipe their ass with your opinion. Paul Vina "Pug Fugley" wrote in message ink.net... "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:HFJLb.9756$5V2.16076@attbi_s53... Maybe he likes them BECAUSE they don't have tweeters. Yeah, high frequencies are way overrated! Paul Vina "Pug Fugley" wrote in message ink.net... Dang, if you thought those $2 Bose paper cone speakers sounded good just wait until you hear some GOOD speakers..with tweeters and everything! "tim" wrote in message ... sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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"tim" wrote: sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim They're option kits for dealerships. I wouldn't call anything Bose good, but it's less crappy than the $20 systems that come in most cars. Bose is just a marketing gimmick. There's no real technology, value, or quality in their equipment. The idea is that you'll hear how superior their $5000 system is to a $129 system, and then you'll buy the Bose. Their only art is in carefully crafted false dichotomy product demos and well written advertising. |
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Pretty much the sole reason for Bose's success is that they have a
marketing department that is second-to-none. I'll use their home speakers as an example. If a consumer isn't big into home stereo and doesn't subscribe to any of the high-end home stereo magazines, there are many high-end speaker manufacturers that he's likely never heard of. Magnepan, Quad, Bowers & Wilkins, Klipsch, Tannoy, Martin Logan, etcetera, etcetera. On the other hand, anyone that gets the Sunday newspaper has heard of Bose, because they usually have a full-page color ad in the PARADE section for either their Wave Radio or one of their Lifestyle systems. The same holds true for walk-in customers. To find any of the brands I listed above, you generally have to go to a stand-alone "boutique" stereo store. Meanwhile, the local mall where I live has a Bose store in it. Also, as you've already noticed, many cars have Bose stereos as factory- or dealer-installed optional equipment. The net result of this is that almost *everyone* has heard of Bose, whereas the very existence of many high-end speaker manufacturers is a mystery to most people. Now let's talk about sound quality. If you line up every home speaker made on Earth, from the crappiest flea-market special to the best-sounding speakers in the world, I think Bose falls out slightly above average, and better than a lot of the consumer-grade stuff out there. So, they have an awesome marketing campaign, and speakers that sound better than some of the more-common brands out there. Combine these two facts, and this means that for a LOT of people, Bose is the first (and often only) "good" speaker they've ever heard. It helps that the Bose displays in stores are always excellent - the Bose representative makes sure of that, often to the detriment of other brands. So while there are a lot of speakers that sound better for the same, or even less, money, the fact is that most people have no idea the higher-end manufacturers even exist. Scott Gardner On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:16:16 -0500, "tim" wrote: sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:SAMLb.11209$5V2.19582@attbi_s53... Who are you to tell him what he likes and dislikes? Maybe that's why people on this forum wouldn't wipe their ass with your opinion. Yeah, people around here seem to have a problem with the truth. They don't like to hear it for some reason, but I could care less. I'm going to lay it down like it is, **** em if they don't like it. Too bad. Bose sucks, face it. The guy can do far better for far less money. |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:SAMLb.11209$5V2.19582@attbi_s53... Who are you to tell him what he likes and dislikes? Maybe that's why people on this forum wouldn't wipe their ass with your opinion. You must be a Bose fan! Please tell me why you love Bose so much. |
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Let us not forget the fact that Bose does NOT allow dealers the ability to
be able to A/B their speakers with any other brand. The Bose is off in it's own room with nothing else around so you cannot get a good objective of how they compare with other speakers. This gives the illusion that Bose is 'magical' or something..I don't know why people fall for it exactly, I just feel sorry for them. Pull the drivers out of a Bose system. Cheap paper cone spekaers that cost $2. No tweeters. Tiny voice coils. Paper surround. Junk. "Scott Gardner" wrote in message ... Pretty much the sole reason for Bose's success is that they have a marketing department that is second-to-none. I'll use their home speakers as an example. If a consumer isn't big into home stereo and doesn't subscribe to any of the high-end home stereo magazines, there are many high-end speaker manufacturers that he's likely never heard of. Magnepan, Quad, Bowers & Wilkins, Klipsch, Tannoy, Martin Logan, etcetera, etcetera. On the other hand, anyone that gets the Sunday newspaper has heard of Bose, because they usually have a full-page color ad in the PARADE section for either their Wave Radio or one of their Lifestyle systems. The same holds true for walk-in customers. To find any of the brands I listed above, you generally have to go to a stand-alone "boutique" stereo store. Meanwhile, the local mall where I live has a Bose store in it. Also, as you've already noticed, many cars have Bose stereos as factory- or dealer-installed optional equipment. The net result of this is that almost *everyone* has heard of Bose, whereas the very existence of many high-end speaker manufacturers is a mystery to most people. Now let's talk about sound quality. If you line up every home speaker made on Earth, from the crappiest flea-market special to the best-sounding speakers in the world, I think Bose falls out slightly above average, and better than a lot of the consumer-grade stuff out there. So, they have an awesome marketing campaign, and speakers that sound better than some of the more-common brands out there. Combine these two facts, and this means that for a LOT of people, Bose is the first (and often only) "good" speaker they've ever heard. It helps that the Bose displays in stores are always excellent - the Bose representative makes sure of that, often to the detriment of other brands. So while there are a lot of speakers that sound better for the same, or even less, money, the fact is that most people have no idea the higher-end manufacturers even exist. Scott Gardner On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:16:16 -0500, "tim" wrote: sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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Bose has been doing factory systems for GM, HONDA,
MAZDA and more for years now ..decades even... For a factory system they do a fairly decent job, they have had some problems over the years but current OEM systems are decent..... Bose doesnt currently make anything for the car that is not factory installed... They dabbled in the aftermarket back about 1980 with some interesting products, including amplifiers with adjustable equalizers built right on the front which were designed to be mounted UNDERDASH (kinda large plate type amp) where the driver could play with it and some speakers with large grills with turnable and adjustable reflectors build right on the front.... Pretty interesting for the days of beginning high end car audio..... So right now the only Bose for the car is from the factory. It is good, but quite frankly its not that hard to get better sound with decent aftermarket stereo gear... Good luck Eddie Runner tim wrote: sat in my pal's '03 grand-am today and noticed the soundsystem was pretty good. even more surprised the speakers were courtesy of Bose, seeing i didn't know they were in the car audio market. are they available to the general public or are they exclusive for certain car companies? thanks. tim |
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
There's no real technology, value, or quality in their equipment. Please do a lookup on AMAR BOSE! There is plenty of REAL TECHNOLOGY as well as a philosophy that is deserving of some respect... Agreed they have a huge marketing scheme that is far overshadowing the actual technical aspects with piles and piles of bull****.... I hate to see the real technology missed because some of you guys assume the bull**** you hear from the marketing dept is all there is to it ..... Certainly NOT my favorite sounding stuff, but from a scientific or speaker building point of view, quite interesting and deserving of some respect none the less.... Eddie Runner |
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Bose sucks, face it. The guy can do far better for far less money.
It may be overpriced, but if that's the sound he's after you can't really put a price on that. Paul Vina |
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You must be a Bose fan! Please tell me why you love Bose so much.
I don't. Personally I think their systems are too boomy. But more that that I just think you're an idiot. Paul Vina |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:W1XLb.16442$nt4.28795@attbi_s51... You must be a Bose fan! Please tell me why you love Bose so much. I don't. Personally I think their systems are too boomy. But more that that I just think you're an idiot. Well, it really doesn't matter what you think. Nobody really cares. |
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"Eddie Runner" wrote in message ... Kevin McMurtrie wrote: There's no real technology, value, or quality in their equipment. Please do a lookup on AMAR BOSE! There is plenty of REAL TECHNOLOGY as well as a philosophy that is deserving of some respect... No, not really. It's just marketing. It's one of those things you learn once you are on the 'inside' of the audio industry. http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:Z0XLb.16434$nt4.28868@attbi_s51... Bose sucks, face it. The guy can do far better for far less money. It may be overpriced, but if that's the sound he's after you can't really put a price on that. Question is..why would anyone want that sound? Once you hear a system that sounds twice as good that costs half as much, why would you want Bose? You really should broaden your horizons, Paul. Close the magazine, quit reading the ads, stop listening to Paul Harvey, and go out and do some listening on your own. You'd be surprised how bad Bose really is. |
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*INSIDE* ???
Are you implying Im not on the INSIDE of the audio industry..??? Dont be a PUTZ, I was prolly a PRO speaker tech before you were born....!! being INSIDE doesnt actually mean anything either in relation to predjudices... In the industry its common for a store that didnt carry BOSE to use the saying *no highs, no lows, it must be bose* But we all know stores always knock what they dont sell... As for the marketing, I have been workin on Bose stuff WAY before they had all this WAVE RADIO marketing crap.... Go back before the marketing to the original JAES papers writen by Bose, or the reasearch he did at MIT, or the sound philosphys behind the reflected sounds some of his speakers produce... Go back before the marketing bull**** and look at his REAL research and experements... Bose the man, with the mans ideas and research not todays corporate multimillion dollar marketing machine.... It does deserve some respect... But of course there are always some that will not see.... Eddie Runner Pug Fugley wrote: Please do a lookup on AMAR BOSE! There is plenty of REAL TECHNOLOGY as well as a philosophy that is deserving of some respect... No, not really. It's just marketing. It's one of those things you learn once you are on the 'inside' of the audio industry. http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html |
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"Eddie Runner" wrote in message ... *INSIDE* ??? Are you implying Im not on the INSIDE of the audio industry..??? No, just didn't know. Didn't mean to offend you. Figured you would have known about Bose if you were on the inside. Dont be a PUTZ, I was prolly a PRO speaker tech before you were born....!! Are you really that old? being INSIDE doesnt actually mean anything either in relation to predjudices... In the industry its common for a store that didnt carry BOSE to use the saying *no highs, no lows, it must be bose* But we all know stores always knock what they dont sell... Actually, that saying didn't come from the stores. It came from audio engineers like myself who know how Bose speakers are actually made. See, when you spend your life surrounded by top notch audio equipment, then go hear some **** like Bose you just don't understand why people buy them. As for the marketing, I have been workin on Bose stuff WAY before they had all this WAVE RADIO marketing crap.... Go back before the marketing to the original JAES papers writen by Bose, or the reasearch he did at MIT, or the sound philosphys behind the reflected sounds some of his speakers produce... Go back before the marketing bull**** and look at his REAL research and experements... Bose the man, with the mans ideas and research not todays corporate multimillion dollar marketing machine.... It does deserve some respect... But of course there are always some that will not see.... Sounds like you work for Amar. How sad for you. |
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Why are you so opposed to science and so prone to
insulting folks that dont agree with your narrow opinion..?? Pug Fugley wrote: Sounds like you work for Amar. How sad for you. Are you new here??? I thought just about everyone here knoew who I was already... If your new see this web page http://www.teamrocs.com/crap/newbie.htm |
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"Pug Fugley" wrote in message link.net...
"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:SAMLb.11209$5V2.19582@attbi_s53... Who are you to tell him what he likes and dislikes? Maybe that's why people on this forum wouldn't wipe their ass with your opinion. Yeah, people around here seem to have a problem with the truth. They don't like to hear it for some reason, but I could care less. I'm going to lay it down like it is, **** em if they don't like it. Too bad. You preach it 'brotha! |
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It may be overpriced, but if that's the sound he's after you can't really put a price on that. Question is..why would anyone want that sound? Maybe because he likes it?? Just because you don't doesn't mean no one does, ass. Once you hear a system that sounds twice as good that costs half as much, why would you want Bose? See above. You really should broaden your horizons, Paul. Close the magazine, quit reading the ads, stop listening to Paul Harvey, and go out and do some listening on your own. You'd be surprised how bad Bose really is. Can you read??? I already said I DON'T like Bose. For the money I haven't heard anything better than my Paradigms. If money was no object I'd have some MLs in my living room. Paul Vina |
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Dude, you *really* don't want to hop onto Pug's bandwagon without reading
his previous posts first. Your opinion of him will change PDQ. Paul Vina "John Dziurlaj" wrote in message om... "Pug Fugley" wrote in message link.net... "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:SAMLb.11209$5V2.19582@attbi_s53... Who are you to tell him what he likes and dislikes? Maybe that's why people on this forum wouldn't wipe their ass with your opinion. Yeah, people around here seem to have a problem with the truth. They don't like to hear it for some reason, but I could care less. I'm going to lay it down like it is, **** em if they don't like it. Too bad. You preach it 'brotha! |
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Well, it really doesn't matter what you think. Nobody really cares.
And sooooo many people think so highly of your opinions. And beieve me, there are *plenty* of people here that will back me up when I say that my opinion carries a ****load more weight than yours. Paul Vina |
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I can't believe the crap this is still coming up with.
The stupid - you've got to admire their consistency. Paul Vina "Eddie Runner" wrote in message ... Why are you so opposed to science and so prone to insulting folks that dont agree with your narrow opinion..?? Pug Fugley wrote: Sounds like you work for Amar. How sad for you. Are you new here??? I thought just about everyone here knoew who I was already... If your new see this web page http://www.teamrocs.com/crap/newbie.htm |
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Eddie Runner wrote: *INSIDE* ??? Are you implying Im not on the INSIDE of the audio industry..??? Dont be a PUTZ, I was prolly a PRO speaker tech before you were born....!! being INSIDE doesnt actually mean anything either in relation to predjudices... In the industry its common for a store that didnt carry BOSE to use the saying *no highs, no lows, it must be bose* But we all know stores always knock what they dont sell... As for the marketing, I have been workin on Bose stuff WAY before they had all this WAVE RADIO marketing crap.... Go back before the marketing to the original JAES papers writen by Bose, or the reasearch he did at MIT, or the sound philosphys behind the reflected sounds some of his speakers produce... Go back before the marketing bull**** and look at his REAL research and experements... Bose the man, with the mans ideas and research not todays corporate multimillion dollar marketing machine.... It does deserve some respect... But of course there are always some that will not see.... Eddie Runner I'm sure that Bose has done lots of research but I'm betting it was in marketing, deception, and methods to build passable systems with dirt cheap components. Fry's Electronics is a big pusher of Bose speaker systems. I've listened to their Bose equipment and it sounds very bad. Some of the lowest-end trash from RCA and Optimus sounds less annoying. Bose knows that too. That's why their product demos are very short bursts of loud sound. Eight seconds of ear-splitting music or Hollywood explosions doesn't allow time for interpretation, but it is impressively loud. |
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"Eddie Runner" wrote in message ... Why are you so opposed to science and so prone to insulting folks that dont agree with your narrow opinion..?? I only insult those who say that known ****ty speakers sound good. In other words, Bose freaks like yourself. Pug Fugley wrote: Sounds like you work for Amar. How sad for you. Are you new here??? I thought just about everyone here knoew who I was already... If your new see this web page http://www.teamrocs.com/crap/newbie.htm Nice web page...for 1994. You seem a bit young to be mouthing off to me, though. |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:qD2Mb.19779$nt4.42119@attbi_s51... I can't believe the crap this is still coming up with. The stupid - you've got to admire their consistency. You must be well admired around here. |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:bu2Mb.18177$Rc4.73987@attbi_s54... Dude, you *really* don't want to hop onto Pug's bandwagon without reading his previous posts first. Your opinion of him will change PDQ. What does Parts Delivered Quickly at Advance Auto have to do with this? Get with the program or get the **** out. |
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message news:9t2Mb.18164$Rc4.73679@attbi_s54... Can you read??? I already said I DON'T like Bose. For the money I haven't heard anything better than my Paradigms. If money was no object I'd have some MLs in my living room. Whoops. 180 degree turn here. I love my Paradigms as well. What models do you have? I have the Studio Active 40's with a Servo 15 and a regular (non powered) Studio CC center with Atoms (for now) in the rear. I traded in B&W 805's for my Paradigms, they are THAT damn good. |
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Anybody that says factory installed Bose systems suck obviously have not heard the '03 and '04 Cadillac Escalade's Bose system. It's really impressive. I'm not saying all Bose factory installed systems are great(Nissan Maxima, etc.), but I am really impressed every time I turn the knob on the Escalades. Also, to the guy that said Bose does not let their speakers be A/B'd, I did an A/B/C comparison with Bose, Infinity and Polk at Circuit City last year. I don't know if that was permitted by Bose, but all the speakers were in one big room(kind of hard for Bose to overlook in a visit to their retail sellers). -- chippa ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Posted via RealCarAudio.com - The checkmate of the caraudio community. http://www.RealCarAudio.com chippa's Profile: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/m...fo&userid=2899 View this thread: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/s...threadid=43628 |
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"chippa" wrote in message ... Anybody that says factory installed Bose systems suck obviously have not heard the '03 and '04 Cadillac Escalade's Bose system. It's really impressive. A) Notice it adds around $3000 to the price. It better sound good. B) Impressive compared to what? The normal Delco crap found in those cars? C) You honestly think you can't take that same $3000 and build a better sounding system? D) How many Bose speakers did you see at the last IASCA event? |
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And sooooo many people think so highly of your opinions. And beieve me,
there are *plenty* of people here that will back me up when I say that my opinion carries a ****load more weight than yours. You got that right Paul, Puggy has a problem with reading comprehension. He cannot possibly understand that sound quality and the differences in speakers are subjective for the most part. I absolutely hate Bose and would rip it out the first day, BUT if the guy likes it then he likes it. Who are we to tell him that he doesnt? And that it is crap? Pugsly's got to be one of the ignorant dumbasses I have ever encountered here. BTW Puggy, where is that shop of yours that ran everyone elses out of business?? You never would answer that one. Could it be that you have never worked at one before? I am starting to think so. Les |
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Please do a lookup on AMAR BOSE!
There is plenty of REAL TECHNOLOGY as well as a philosophy that is deserving of some respect... Very true. Look at what they are doing with cylindrical radiators. Very application specific and definantly not the best BUT a great idea that will likely be jumped on by many companies in the next few years. Les |
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A)The 9-speaker Bose system is standard on the Escalade so how do you know how much it adds to the price? B)I just said impressive. I didn't say it was better than any particular system. Have you heard one? C)Refer to A D)None, because Bose doesn't sell car audio to consumers(to answer the first question of this thread). And I never said that the system was competition worthy. -- chippa ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Posted via RealCarAudio.com - The checkmate of the caraudio community. http://www.RealCarAudio.com chippa's Profile: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/m...fo&userid=2899 View this thread: http://www.realcaraudio.com/forums/s...threadid=43628 |
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"Pug Fugley" wrote :
snip Actually, that saying didn't come from the stores. It came from audio engineers like myself who know how Bose speakers are actually made. See, when you spend your life surrounded by top notch audio equipment, then go hear some **** like Bose you just don't understand why people buy them. If you're an audio engineer, then I'm an astronaut. |
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"Xtreme Tunes" wrote in message t.cable.rogers.com... "Pug Fugley" wrote : snip Actually, that saying didn't come from the stores. It came from audio engineers like myself who know how Bose speakers are actually made. See, when you spend your life surrounded by top notch audio equipment, then go hear some **** like Bose you just don't understand why people buy them. If you're an audio engineer, then I'm an astronaut. Well, you at least got the 'ass' part right. |
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Whoops. 180 degree turn here. Huh? What turn? My opinion on Bose has been the same all along. I love my Paradigms as well. What models do you have? I have the Studio Active 40's with a Servo 15 and a regular (non powered) Studio CC center with Atoms (for now) in the rear. I use Atoms all around, a CC-470 center and a Sunfire Super Junior since I rarely (almost never, really) listen to music at home so HT performance was my main goal. I traded in B&W 805's for my Paradigms, they are THAT damn good. Our HT side carries a lot of stuff that I think the Paradigms sound better than. Paul Vina |
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