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On Monday, July 29, 2013 5:16:47 PM UTC-5, Bob Quintal wrote:
" wrote in : on the board. Everything is soldered on one single board. There is nothing and bench technician can do to fix the problem Baloney! Competent bench technicians can repair solder joints, and replace bad components soldered to printed circuit boards. If the problem is diagnosed as a RoHS compliant (e.g. brittle) solder joint, it may be easy for a competent technician to fix. If the problem is diagnosed as a bad resistor, it may be easy for a competent technician to fix. Q Dah.......... And how exactly bad solder joint can cause EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM in 4 different units? One of many possibilities is that one batch of a part (resistor, capacitor or IC) may have a defect in that a solder pad on that lot of devices was contaminated with some oil. That part is used in one place on each board. so each board will have the same problem after the solder joint corrodes about 4 years after being soldered. I've seen it happen. -- Bob Q. PA is y I've altered my address. I've seen it happen too many times. And in all those cases I was able to quickly find the problem by lightly tapping on the board and re-solder the joint. Not this time. |
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On Monday, July 29, 2013 5:31:49 PM UTC-5, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 7/29/2013 2:53 PM, wrote: There is no separate FX circuit board inside. And no plug in chips on the board. Everything is soldered on one single board. There is nothing and bench technician can do to fix the problem Replace a chip, maybe? -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com Replace it with what? Another chip with same problem? |
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On Monday, July 29, 2013 5:38:23 PM UTC-5, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 7/29/2013 4:15 PM, wrote: .... Somebody from Behringer website just posted on my video with the promise to solve the problem to my satisfaction. Hopefully he gave you explicit instructions on how to get the mixer from your place to theirs. And sent you a prepaid shipping label. Keep us posted. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com If they pay shipping for out of warranty gear, it's perfectly fine with me. But I am not spending any more money on those things. |
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 07:26:19 +0100 "Peter Larsen"
wrote in article skrev i en meddelelse ... Exactly the same problem in 3 different units? Because of bad solder joint? All bought far apart in time! Far out! I have 2 of them: RX1202FX (Serial # N1000158486, Date Code 1001) RX1202FX (Serial # S1006617486, Date Code 1012) with EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM! No pots or sliders or switches on the unit have ANY EFFECT ON THE PROBLEM (tried every single one 100x). Only FX master knob even on min volume (And master volume slider, of course). Stores do not stock them and trying one in the store won't work since the problem appears intermittently for no apparent reason. Send in for warranty repair then or return for a refund and move on in your life. Kind regards Peter Larsen On Sunday, July 28, 2013 1:20:48 PM UTC-5, wrote: Anybody having same problems with Behringer mixers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddwGDdhTdY please post. I took a look at the YouTube video. There's a recent (4 hours old) comment from a user "berhinger" promising help. |
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wrote in message ... For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com Replace it with what? Another chip with same problem? Well wht do you think ? Maybe another chip that doesn't have the same problem. Or maybe the problem is in the attachment. geoff |
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Ron C wrote:
On 7/29/2013 1:15 PM, Les Cargill wrote: Mike Rivers wrote: On 7/29/2013 8:15 AM, Les Cargill wrote: Software isn't intermittent. Yes, it is. Frequently. No, it isn't. The environment is intermittent. *Sigh* Software can be, and frequently is intermittent. Trust me on this... Examples please. Read the manufacturers notes on a computer bios upgrade and remember: all hardware is ultimately analog, Dave Haynie said so, so it is correct. Kind regards Peter Larsen == Later... Ron Capik -- Peter Larsen Langeås 20 4281 Gørlev 3582 1612 |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) geoff |
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geoff wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) That's as may be, but this side of the Atlantic, "Pro" doesn't always mean "professional", there's another word that starts the same way.... -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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"John Williamson" wrote in message ... geoff wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) That's as may be, but this side of the Atlantic, "Pro" doesn't always mean "professional", there's another word that starts the same way.... Smiley ! geoff PS If it says "Pro" in the name, 9 times out of 10 it isn't. |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:54:59 AM UTC-5, Peter Larsen wrote:
wrote: If they pay shipping for out of warranty gear, it's perfectly fine with me. But I am not spending any more money on those things. If that is your attitude to this, then you should have put them into an electronics recycling bin long ago. Behringer has offered to help and you have been doing your damdest to try and damage their reputation, so here is how to do it: if you do not want to have damaged only your own reputation you go ask for sending instructions and pay the postage. Kind regards Peter Larsen Behringer offered help AFTER I uploaded the video. Before that I didn't get much response from them. And they even closed the thread on the subject I put up on their users forum. http://forum.behringer.com/showthrea...-with-RX1202FX |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:54:57 AM UTC-5, Peter Larsen wrote:
wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possible plug in connector. And I used both units in dozens of different venues with same results. There are already 4 units out there (and still counting) with EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM. Need more evidence of design flaw? OK, so you have used these units in a dozen of venues in spite of them being faulty and presumeably thus ruining your show? - I don't know about you, but I do not like hardware to damage my credibility, it either works or goes somewhere else. Here is why: you can buy hardware if you have money - obviously you have to make budget and wishes meet, but you can only earn credibility and it takes 30 years to so do. I have made sound recordings since 1970, and yes, I have goofed, some of them have been atrociously poor, I have had to drive home for another ReVox and make a recording on a quarter track machine, I have had to record a recital in mono because of equipment failure - I could have raced home for something else and solved it, but chose not to so as to not disrupt the pre-concert rehearsal gambling it would be the right choice and had the quartett say that it so was because the recording was for them and the concert was for the audience and I have had to call a now late friend and ask him help because I had forgotten my R44 PSU, I could have run on batteries, but it would have been a pestulence to have to rush to a gas station or kiosk and get enough to feel comfy and would have disturbed pre-concert rehearsal, something I have become very careful about avoiding since my Microsoft certification exams and starting as a Storyteller. And you have done "dozens of shows" with broken stuff with a valid warranty instead of sending it in for repairs? Kind regards Peter Larsen Entire problem limited to FX processor ONLY. As long as I don't use it, Mixer section works fine to my satisfaction, Still perfectly useable as the submixers for live gigs. |
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On Monday, July 29, 2013 8:35:28 PM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. And I used both units in dozens of different venues w= ith same results. There are already 4 units out there (and still counting) = with EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM. Need more evidence of design flaw? Yes, but do you have the same problem with a terminated input or only when the input is disconnected? Or are you routing the output of the effects unit into the same buss that is driving it? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I tried it every possible way. Nothing that I do in mixer section has any effect on FX processor. And there is no way to route FX anywhere. FX processor is hard wired to Mains/Control room. There is only SOLO button that lets you listen FX only on Control outs. It has no effect on the problem. |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:54:54 AM UTC-5, Peter Larsen wrote:
wrote: Dah.......... And how exactly bad solder joint can cause EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM in 4 different units? Here's one theory: it has to do with the largest chip on the pcb and is in the left lower corner because the board flexes there when subjected to spl's above 120 dB C. Paraphrased over one of Phil Allisons very good and patient explanations of another problem. Kind regards Peter Larsen There are no large chips anywhere inside. Only tiny ones. And I used that mixer only on the small club/dining room gigs. Nowhere near 120dB. I have different system I use on the large gigs/venues. |
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On Monday, July 29, 2013 8:35:28 PM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. And I used both units in dozens of different venues w= ith same results. There are already 4 units out there (and still counting) = with EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM. Need more evidence of design flaw? Yes, but do you have the same problem with a terminated input or only when the input is disconnected? Or are you routing the output of the effects unit into the same buss that is driving it? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I don't see how any ATI gear would be any help. It has no built in FX processors. And that's where the problem is. With FX off Mixer section works perfectly fine. Still very useable as submixer on any gig. |
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John Williamson wrote:
geoff wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) That's as may be, but this side of the Atlantic, "Pro" doesn't always mean "professional", there's another word that starts the same way.... Prolapsis? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
John Williamson wrote: geoff wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) That's as may be, but this side of the Atlantic, "Pro" doesn't always mean "professional", there's another word that starts the same way.... Prolapsis? Grin Let's just say that some women are pro's in both senses of the word. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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geoff wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) geoff Swooosh! "Ma - he's got sweatbands!" - paraphrased from Erma Bombeck in some thrift store book from last century. -- Les Cargill |
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John Williamson wrote:
geoff wrote: "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... wrote: There is no daughter board inside. Not even single chip socket. Everything = is on one single motherboard soldered in solid. I even cleaned every possib= le plug in connector. That's how cheap gear is made today. The Mackie 8-buss console is all one huge board. But that does not mean it cannot be repaired or modified, it just means it's a bit more work. If you don't like it, pony up and buy an ATI. There is a reason why the Behringer costs a tiny fraction of the cost of a professional console. But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) That's as may be, but this side of the Atlantic, "Pro" doesn't always mean "professional", there's another word that starts the same way.... Pro bono? Because most Behringer stuff is not used to make money... -- Les Cargill |
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On 7/29/2013 6:55 PM, wrote:
Replace a chip, maybe? Replace it with what? Another chip with same problem? No, another chip that's soldered in by hand and carefully inspected. And while he's at it, inspect the rest of the board for bad solder joints. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On 7/30/2013 6:03 AM, wrote:
Entire problem limited to FX processor ONLY. As long as I don't use it, Mixer section works fine to my satisfaction, Still perfectly useable as the submixers for live gigs. This may be different on modern digital consoles (which have their own set of problems) but every mixer that I've known about that has a built-in effect unit has been compromised in one way or another. They want to add this feature for people who want it, but they don't want to make the mixer any more expensive because of it. I suppose you can figure out how it goes from there. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:52:05 AM UTC-5, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 7/29/2013 6:55 PM, wrote: Replace a chip, maybe? Replace it with what? Another chip with same problem? No, another chip that's soldered in by hand and carefully inspected. And while he's at it, inspect the rest of the board for bad solder joints. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com And how bench technician at repair center can "inspect" the chip that has known intermittent design flaws? Clairvoyance? |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 10:05:50 AM UTC-5, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 7/30/2013 6:03 AM, wrote: Entire problem limited to FX processor ONLY. As long as I don't use it, Mixer section works fine to my satisfaction, Still perfectly useable as the submixers for live gigs. This may be different on modern digital consoles (which have their own set of problems) but every mixer that I've known about that has a built-in effect unit has been compromised in one way or another. They want to add this feature for people who want it, but they don't want to make the mixer any more expensive because of it. I suppose you can figure out how it goes from there. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com And what it has to do with mixer still being useable for the gig? Especially since I still (with some inconvenience) can use FX in my Helicon VoiceworksII sitting in the same rack. |
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wrote in message ... On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:52:05 AM UTC-5, Mike Rivers wrote: On 7/29/2013 6:55 PM, wrote: Replace a chip, maybe? Replace it with what? Another chip with same problem? No, another chip that's soldered in by hand and carefully inspected. And while he's at it, inspect the rest of the board for bad solder joints. For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com And how bench technician at repair center can "inspect" the chip that has known intermittent design flaws? Clairvoyance? If the design flaw is known, then it often relates to a batch of chips that were made with the same flaw. Chips are made in batches that are essentially identical. The exterior of the chip can have a batch number, lot number, date code, some kind of marking that is unique to chips that were made the same. If you look at a chip it has a number of markings in addition to the type number and manufacturer's name. Some of them relate to the batch that the chip is a member of. Someone in the know sends out a memo with the code number, and the technican inspects the chip to see if it has that marking. |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:21:57 AM UTC-5, Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 9:52:05 AM UTC-5, Mike Rivers wrote: On 7/29/2013 6:55 PM, wrote: Replace a chip, maybe? Replace it with what? Another chip with same problem? No, another chip that's soldered in by hand and carefully inspected. And while he's at it, inspect the rest of the board for bad solder joints. For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com And how bench technician at repair center can "inspect" the chip that has known intermittent design flaws? Clairvoyance? If the design flaw is known, then it often relates to a batch of chips that were made with the same flaw. Chips are made in batches that are essentially identical. The exterior of the chip can have a batch number, lot number, date code, some kind of marking that is unique to chips that were made the same. If you look at a chip it has a number of markings in addition to the type number and manufacturer's name. Some of them relate to the batch that the chip is a member of. Someone in the know sends out a memo with the code number, and the technican inspects the chip to see if it has that marking. That's why I emailed Behringer twice with description of the problem and the question if the chip problem was identified and fixed. Got only auto-responce: "Send the unit in repair center". |
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On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:28:55 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: That's why I emailed Behringer twice with description of the problem and the question if the chip problem was identified and fixed. Got only auto-responce: "Send the unit in repair center". Which is, of course, precisely what you should have done. d |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
wrote: No, another chip that's soldered in by hand and carefully inspected. And while he's at it, inspect the rest of the board for bad solder joints. And how bench technician at repair center can "inspect" the chip that has known intermittent design flaws? Clairvoyance? Actually, with RoHS stuff I don't even bother inspecting solder joints, I just reflow all of them. But with leaded solder it's just a matter of a magnifier. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I did re-solder the joints all around processor area in my original unit (the one I bought used). Didn't help. Also the problem always disappears (at least for a while) every time I re-boot FX processor by holding down FX select knob on power up (Technician recommendation). That strongly indicates chip internal problem that has nothing to do with solder joints. |
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:18:12 PM UTC-5, Don Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:28:55 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: That's why I emailed Behringer twice with description of the problem and the question if the chip problem was identified and fixed. Got only auto-responce: "Send the unit in repair center". Which is, of course, precisely what you should have done. d Brilliant idea! Just waste money and time without any results. 'been there, done that too many times..... |
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" wrote in
: On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote: wrote: No, another chip that's soldered in by hand and carefully inspected. And while he's at it, inspect the rest of the board for bad solder joints. And how bench technician at repair center can "inspect" the chip that has known intermittent design flaws? Clairvoyance? Actually, with RoHS stuff I don't even bother inspecting solder joints, I just reflow all of them. But with leaded solder it's just a matter of a magnifier. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I did re-solder the joints all around processor area in my original unit (the one I bought used). Didn't help. Also the problem always disappears (at least for a while) every time I re-boot FX processor by holding down FX select knob on power up (Technician recommendation). That strongly indicates chip internal problem that has nothing to do with solder joints. Or maybe a problem with the power going to the chip that causes the ic to oscillate. Have you checked the filter capacitors near the microcircuit? -- Bob Q. PA is y I've altered my address. |
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:29:11 -0700, (hank alrich)
wrote: Mike Rivers wrote: On 7/29/2013 10:40 AM, wrote: And when I posted the problem on Behriner users forum another guy reported EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM! The unit I bought brand new just ran out of warranty, so I am stuck with 2 lemmons from Behringer. You got a response (two, actually) from a customer support person at Behringer. They want your unit (or units) to study the problem. Don't worry about them being just out of warranty. Get them into the hands of the people who can help. They aren't doing you any good, and we sure can't help you. If you didn't get a useful reply from try again. Point them to the forum thread and ask where and how to ship your units off to get the suspicious board replaced. Don't tell them they have a design problem. There may be a manufacturing engineering problem that causes the intermittent behavior, and the best way they can fix that is to study known defective units. Don't waste your time bitching here, do something pro-active to help yourself and other users of Behringer products that share the same effects circuit board. What Mike said. Keep in mind that one's behavior may generate a positive or negative response from those capable of offering assistance. A good attitude and restraint in thinking one is qualified to assess the root of a problem can go a long way in the direction of satisfactory resolution. All Behringer kit is not created alike. Years ago Behringer replaced a couple of DEQ2496's I'd installed in a dance studio, which failed just out of warranty. The replacement units are still working, as are the others that were installed. This is roughly six years of 12 to 16 hour days, 360+ days a year. A wide variety of causes may underlie this type of repeated failure. The Great Capacitor Formula Robbery comes to mind, a situation that affected electronics of very many types from lots of manufacturers, for a long time. Diagnosis is unlikely if one does not have the failed examples to examine. Short of that it's guesswork, and welcome to the innernut. There was one Behringer unit from the bad electrolyte days that I looked at that had over 50 bad electrolytics. It went into the trash. |
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wrote in message ... Behringer offered help AFTER I uploaded the video. Before that I didn't get much response from them. And they even closed the thread on the subject I put up on their users forum. http://forum.behringer.com/showthrea...-with-RX1202FX I wonder why .... Where you bullied as a child ? geoff |
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wrote in message ... I tried it every possible way. Nothing that I do in mixer section has any effect on FX processor. And there is no way to route FX anywhere. FX processor is hard wired to Mains/Control room. There is only SOLO button that lets you listen FX only on Control outs. It has no effect on the problem. I'd suggest you send it/them in and get them fixed. Or throw them away and get something else. What do you hope to acheive by continuing your seemingly increasingly pointless crusade here ? geoff |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... But it says "Pro" in the name ;-) That's as may be, but this side of the Atlantic, "Pro" doesn't always mean "professional", there's another word that starts the same way.... Prolapsis? --scott Prosecute. We must prosecute those nasty B-people ! Or maybe prod or proctoloise them. geoff |
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Anybody having same problems with Behringer mixers?
wrote in message ... Someone in the know sends out a memo with the code number, and the technican inspects the chip to see if it has that marking. That's why I emailed Behringer twice with description of the problem and the question if the chip problem was identified and fixed. Got only auto-responce: "Send the unit in repair center". So maybe that's what you should do then. geoff |
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