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That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to
deal with
this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise
your
hands!

Shows what little you know about tube guitar amps and distortion.
Much of the purposeful distortion comes from the preamp side..

Yes, and it has the same character as an overdriven output stage,
(guitar or hi-fi amp) with the additional advantage of adjustable
volume to suit the venue. This ain't rocket science!

The character of the sound form each type sounds quite different.

No, it doesn't. A particular guitar amp won't sound the same as a
particular hi-fi amp, but the distortion mechanisms are identical.
--


"A particular guitar amp won't sound the same as a
particular hi-fi amp" Yes, and as a whole, guitar amps do not
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Quit quacking Powell. Put up or shut up.

That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
of my house.

Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
looking at right now, Weil.

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Quit quacking Powell. Put up or shut up.

That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
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Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
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Quit quacking Powell. Put up or shut up.

That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
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Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
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That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
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Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.


no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.




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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.


no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.




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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.


no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.




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Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp,
outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless.

So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was
making.
Tubes
distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player
might
use
is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used
in a
home
hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like
that distortion is their choice.

It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them.

This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's
lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note
that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his
educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do
because that's what the voices in his head
tell
him.

I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp
sound like.

Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are
different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are
identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels
(aside from SETs). --
That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same.

No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to
the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note
that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not
overdriven!

Then its a different design.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

And, guitar amps also overdrive the preamp stage.

So what, we were talking about distortion.

Home audio tube amps are not designed that way either.

So what, we were talking about distortion, not design. BTW, you're
wrong.

Note that when cornered, Yustabe tries to change the discussion
from one of sound quality and kind of distortion, to design. Did
he learn
this
trick from Weil or did he teach Weil?

We are talking about the the difference in sound.

Please, tell us again that they sound the same

Here's a news flash Yustabe. It's that all good amplifiers sound the
same, not that all bad amplifiers sound the same.


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.


no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.




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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.




OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.



I posted a message, this is the header:

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saying:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of your
clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there entirely
different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockupppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?


I didn't say anything at all about your house.
I talked about what you liked in a house.
Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets.
I suckered you inot that one real good!
You are so incredibly STUPID!




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Then, in response, you posted THE MESSAGE IN QUESTION
which you later removed from records, to cover your tracks
from your emabarrasing statement.

And to your MESSAGE IN QUESTION, I replied thus:

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and message being:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
news
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of
your clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there
entirely different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockpuppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?

I didn't say anything at all about your house.

From: "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:51:05 -0500
Message-ID:

"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

I talked about what you liked in a house.

Nope. Learn to read what you wrote, sockpuppet. You called it a "...cookie
cutter high volume production home...".

Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets (sic).

I bought the house primarily because it was cheap, had lots of room for
kids, and was in the right school district. The "amenities" included lots
of
structural problems and impractical *features*.

You're such a stupid liar, sockpuppet. Just like the rest of your clique.



"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

prefer: like better; value more highly
(from Merriam Webster Dictionary)




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Note that in my response, I quoted 'part' of
your expunged post, in which you admitted that your house
has, and I quote you, "lots of strutural problems". Earlier
in the expunged message, you delineated one of them as
being a crumbling foundation.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.




OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.



I posted a message, this is the header:

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saying:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of your
clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there entirely
different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockupppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?


I didn't say anything at all about your house.
I talked about what you liked in a house.
Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets.
I suckered you inot that one real good!
You are so incredibly STUPID!




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Then, in response, you posted THE MESSAGE IN QUESTION
which you later removed from records, to cover your tracks
from your emabarrasing statement.

And to your MESSAGE IN QUESTION, I replied thus:

header being:
rom: "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
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and message being:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
news
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of
your clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there
entirely different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockpuppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?

I didn't say anything at all about your house.

From: "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:51:05 -0500
Message-ID:

"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

I talked about what you liked in a house.

Nope. Learn to read what you wrote, sockpuppet. You called it a "...cookie
cutter high volume production home...".

Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets (sic).

I bought the house primarily because it was cheap, had lots of room for
kids, and was in the right school district. The "amenities" included lots
of
structural problems and impractical *features*.

You're such a stupid liar, sockpuppet. Just like the rest of your clique.



"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

prefer: like better; value more highly
(from Merriam Webster Dictionary)




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Note that in my response, I quoted 'part' of
your expunged post, in which you admitted that your house
has, and I quote you, "lots of strutural problems". Earlier
in the expunged message, you delineated one of them as
being a crumbling foundation.

Again, you are proven to be a cheat, liar and coward.







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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.




OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.



I posted a message, this is the header:

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saying:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of your
clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there entirely
different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockupppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?


I didn't say anything at all about your house.
I talked about what you liked in a house.
Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets.
I suckered you inot that one real good!
You are so incredibly STUPID!




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Then, in response, you posted THE MESSAGE IN QUESTION
which you later removed from records, to cover your tracks
from your emabarrasing statement.

And to your MESSAGE IN QUESTION, I replied thus:

header being:
rom: "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
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and message being:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
news
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of
your clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there
entirely different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockpuppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?

I didn't say anything at all about your house.

From: "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:51:05 -0500
Message-ID:

"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

I talked about what you liked in a house.

Nope. Learn to read what you wrote, sockpuppet. You called it a "...cookie
cutter high volume production home...".

Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets (sic).

I bought the house primarily because it was cheap, had lots of room for
kids, and was in the right school district. The "amenities" included lots
of
structural problems and impractical *features*.

You're such a stupid liar, sockpuppet. Just like the rest of your clique.



"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

prefer: like better; value more highly
(from Merriam Webster Dictionary)




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Note that in my response, I quoted 'part' of
your expunged post, in which you admitted that your house
has, and I quote you, "lots of strutural problems". Earlier
in the expunged message, you delineated one of them as
being a crumbling foundation.

Again, you are proven to be a cheat, liar and coward.







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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.




OK Yustabe, quote me saying that my house has a crumbling foundation, with
proper cite from google. If you can't the topic is dropped because you've
shown that you are incapable of understanding simple statements, so
there's
no need for me to confuse you any more.



I posted a message, this is the header:

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saying:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of your
clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there entirely
different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockupppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?


I didn't say anything at all about your house.
I talked about what you liked in a house.
Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets.
I suckered you inot that one real good!
You are so incredibly STUPID!




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Then, in response, you posted THE MESSAGE IN QUESTION
which you later removed from records, to cover your tracks
from your emabarrasing statement.

And to your MESSAGE IN QUESTION, I replied thus:

header being:
rom: "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
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References:







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and message being:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
news
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


Maybe Dr. Richman can straighten us out.

Even though he's badly bent, he might be able to help the members of
your clique. One bad batch of sick puppies!

Is your ass sucking a sexually driven behavior, or are there
entirely different motives?

We have a far longer track record of that kind of behavior among the
members
of your clique, sockpuppet. Let him analyze that!

BTW sockpuppet, why aren't all the "seekers of truth" in your clique
excoriating you for your big lie about my house?

I didn't say anything at all about your house.

From: "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:51:05 -0500
Message-ID:

"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

I talked about what you liked in a house.

Nope. Learn to read what you wrote, sockpuppet. You called it a "...cookie
cutter high volume production home...".

Yes, I knew it would draw out an admission form you
that you enjoyed the amenities of a boutique built
house, to demonstrate your hypocricy in criticizing
boutique audio componenets (sic).

I bought the house primarily because it was cheap, had lots of room for
kids, and was in the right school district. The "amenities" included lots
of
structural problems and impractical *features*.

You're such a stupid liar, sockpuppet. Just like the rest of your clique.



"Arny prefers to live in a cookie cutter high volume production home,
rather than in a custom home produced by a 'boutique' builder."

prefer: like better; value more highly
(from Merriam Webster Dictionary)




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Note that in my response, I quoted 'part' of
your expunged post, in which you admitted that your house
has, and I quote you, "lots of strutural problems". Earlier
in the expunged message, you delineated one of them as
being a crumbling foundation.

Again, you are proven to be a cheat, liar and coward.







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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:04:01 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:46:30 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Quit quacking Powell. Put up or shut up.

That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
of my house.

Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
looking at right now, Weil.

I don't believe you.

Ball's in your court. You could easily prove your statement, you know.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:04:01 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:46:30 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Quit quacking Powell. Put up or shut up.

That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
of my house.

Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
looking at right now, Weil.

I don't believe you.

Ball's in your court. You could easily prove your statement, you know.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:04:01 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:46:30 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Quit quacking Powell. Put up or shut up.

That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
of my house.

Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
looking at right now, Weil.

I don't believe you.

Ball's in your court. You could easily prove your statement, you know.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:04:01 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:46:30 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Quit quacking Powell. Put up or shut up.

That's exactly how Ifeel about your statements about seeing pictures
of my house.

Put up or shut up.

OK, I won't say anything more about the picture of your house that I'm
looking at right now, Weil.

I don't believe you.

Ball's in your court. You could easily prove your statement, you know.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.



The second is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. And they are 'not' the
same. That is because
I can see the distinction between 'the same' and 'the same distortion
mechanism', and you can't




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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.



The second is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. And they are 'not' the
same. That is because
I can see the distinction between 'the same' and 'the same distortion
mechanism', and you can't




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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.



The second is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. And they are 'not' the
same. That is because
I can see the distinction between 'the same' and 'the same distortion
mechanism', and you can't




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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Agreed. We've got another example of Yustabe's mental problems. He can't
tell the difference between "they are the same" and "they obtain their
results using the same distortion mechanism". You obviously see a big
difference, and so do I. But, to an under-educated low-brow like Yustabe,
they are indistinguishable.



The second is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. And they are 'not' the
same. That is because
I can see the distinction between 'the same' and 'the same distortion
mechanism', and you can't




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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Just like various cars have the same propulsion 'mechanisms', yet
they are different from each other, have different performances, and have
different 'feels'.




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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Just like various cars have the same propulsion 'mechanisms', yet
they are different from each other, have different performances, and have
different 'feels'.




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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Just like various cars have the same propulsion 'mechanisms', yet
they are different from each other, have different performances, and have
different 'feels'.




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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Just like various cars have the same propulsion 'mechanisms', yet
they are different from each other, have different performances, and have
different 'feels'.




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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Just like various cars have the same propulsion 'mechanisms', yet
they are different from each other, have different performances, and
have different 'feels'.

Yes, but I'm sure we could all characterize the general differences between
cars with conventional steam engines (metaphor for vinylism and tubism) and
high performance modern engines (metaphor for good solid state and digital).

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Just like various cars have the same propulsion 'mechanisms', yet
they are different from each other, have different performances, and
have different 'feels'.

Yes, but I'm sure we could all characterize the general differences between
cars with conventional steam engines (metaphor for vinylism and tubism) and
high performance modern engines (metaphor for good solid state and digital).

"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:16:00 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message


This argument is about the ridiculous concept btought forth, that
tube guitar amps and tube audio amps are, and sound, the same.

That would be a straw man that you created, Yustabe.

no, way back when, it was
offered that they were the same.

Nope, it was offered that the distortion *mechanisms* are the same.
They are.

Just like various cars have the same propulsion 'mechanisms', yet
they are different from each other, have different performances, and
have different 'feels'.

Yes, but I'm sure we could all characterize the general differences between
cars with conventional steam engines (metaphor for vinylism and tubism) and
high performance modern engines (metaphor for good solid state and digital).