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While I do master on the loud side, I look at other waveforms and see brick-walling taking place. Anyway, Capitol reissues some grotesque audio, assume their personal appearance matches their audio. Some binary flaws (common with Capitol) heard here in this "Take #2", The Bob Seger System (1969) (toned down)...
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...ramblinman.mp3 Jack |
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On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03:27 AM UTC-4, JackA wrote:
While I do master on the loud side, I look at other waveforms and see brick-walling taking place. Anyway, Capitol reissues some grotesque audio, assume their personal appearance matches their audio. Some binary flaws (common with Capitol) heard here in this "Take #2", The Bob Seger System (1969) (toned down)... http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...ramblinman.mp3 Jack I'm amazed (though I shouldn't be), that no one, so far, can tell me what is different about this Stereo mix than what is commonly heard. Beatles fans? My GUESS, this was/is typically mixed in what I refer to as lopsided stereo, vocals on one stereo side, music on the other. It strongly supports my theory, people don't actually listen to music! Jack |
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JackA: A thread titled "Mastering Too Loud" is
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On 12-05-2016 13:11, JackA wrote:
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03:27 AM UTC-4, JackA wrote: While I do master on the loud side, I look at other waveforms and see brick-walling taking place. Anyway, Capitol reissues some grotesque audio, assume their personal appearance matches their audio. Some binary flaws (common with Capitol) heard here in this "Take #2", The Bob Seger System (1969) (toned down)... http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...ramblinman.mp3 Jack I'm amazed (though I shouldn't be), that no one, so far, can tell me what is different about this Stereo mix than what is commonly heard. Well, after listening to a few of your mix attempts they are perhaps low in priority with some listeners. Beatles fans? My GUESS, this was/is typically mixed in what I refer to as lopsided stereo, vocals on one stereo side, music on the other. That was never intended as stereophonic, it is a two channel multitrack. It strongly supports my theory, people don't actually listen to music! My theory has become that you only ever post here and never read as this issue has been explained to you numerous times. Jack - Peter Larsen |
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Peter Larsen wrote: "That was never intended as stereophonic, it is a two channel multitrack."
But it was MARKETED as such. JackA should get prime seats at a concert or orchestra in a purpose-built venue. He'll find out what "stereo" is quite quickly. Stereo is all around us - not limited to two, or four, or eight speakers, or headphones. A Marketing dept. can convince consumers that a shiny brown steaming mound of **** is "vibrant stereo" or "gloriously remastered", even if what was really done to it was otherwise, and those consumers will snatch it up as canonical. |
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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:15:58 AM UTC-4, wrote:
JackA: A thread titled "Mastering Too Loud" is likely to be ignored on an audio PRODUCTION newsgroup. This was meant to be a follow-up to my "Noisy Tapes To Mix" post. Thanks and Sorry. Jack |
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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:19:12 AM UTC-4, Peter Larsen wrote:
On 12-05-2016 13:11, JackA wrote: On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03:27 AM UTC-4, JackA wrote: While I do master on the loud side, I look at other waveforms and see brick-walling taking place. Anyway, Capitol reissues some grotesque audio, assume their personal appearance matches their audio. Some binary flaws (common with Capitol) heard here in this "Take #2", The Bob Seger System (1969) (toned down)... http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...ramblinman.mp3 Jack I'm amazed (though I shouldn't be), that no one, so far, can tell me what is different about this Stereo mix than what is commonly heard. Well, after listening to a few of your mix attempts they are perhaps low in priority with some listeners. Beatles fans? My GUESS, this was/is typically mixed in what I refer to as lopsided stereo, vocals on one stereo side, music on the other. That was never intended as stereophonic, it is a two channel multitrack. It strongly supports my theory, people don't actually listen to music! My theory has become that you only ever post here and never read as this issue has been explained to you numerous times. Some (audio) challenge me and I even appreciate it. Remember Randy (past participant) and the Blood, Sweat & Tears thread? At least I got to hear what (tape noise) Sony was soliciting, since they are "professionals". Anyway, sorry, this follow-up ended in the wrong place. Was meant to be under that Beatles song stereo remix (Noisy Tapes To Mix). Jack Jack - Peter Larsen |
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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 9:37:27 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
On 12/05/2016 14:15, wrote: JackA: A thread titled "Mastering Too Loud" is likely to be ignored on an audio PRODUCTION newsgroup. Most threads by JackAss will not be seen by many in this group, due to people's killfile settings. Funny. When you reach my confidence level, you, too, will wonder why others don't challenge you and prefer to hide. Jack -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote:
Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. geoff |
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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote:
On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Jack geoff |
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thekma @ braindead.retards.org wrote in message
... JackA: A thread titled "Mastering Too Loud" is likely to be ignored on an audio PRODUCTION newsgroup. Threads by trolling nazi dog**** is ignored by many. Threads by retarded trolling dumb****s likewise. But being a dumb****, you don't understand. Sucks to be you. |
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On 13/05/2016 00:46, JackA wrote:
On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote: On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Better still, you get some decent monitoring and learn to listen to what's there, and we'll stop heckling you. I have produced CDs from live recordings for happy clients. You haven't. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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..... wrote: " thekma @ braindead.retards.org wrote in message
... JackA: A thread titled "Mastering Too Loud" is likely to be ignored on an audio PRODUCTION newsgroup. Threads by trolling nazi dog**** is ignored by many. Threads by retarded trolling dumb****s likewise. But being a dumb****, you don't understand. Sucks to be you." Oops. Looks like I stepped on the toes of the (former)marketing dept.! |
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THECKHHHHHMAAAAAAAAAAH @ shortbus.com wrote in message
news:056a473d-4996-4ff9-b7bf- Oops. Looks like I stepped on the toes of the (former)marketing dept.! Oops. The retarded dumb **** got dropped on his head again. |
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.... wrote: "Oops. The retarded dumb **** got dropped on his head again. "
Answer me this: WHY does it bother you so much??? Why aren't Dorsey, Rivers, Larsen, Williamson, geoff, Trevor, and a hundred others resorting to a diatribe of verbal diarrhea like what you post here?? "excess compression" "peak limiting" "LOUDNESS" There, do those terms make you want to drive off the road?! |
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On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 1:49:53 AM UTC-4, John Williamson wrote:
On 13/05/2016 00:46, JackA wrote: On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote: On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Better still, you get some decent monitoring and learn to listen to what's there, and we'll stop heckling you. I have produced CDs from live recordings for happy clients. You haven't. I GUESS I'll have to take YOUR word. Jack -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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lil-krissie-go-sickie @ whining-brats.retardsRtheckma.edu wrote in
message ... ... wrote: "Oops. The retarded dumb **** got dropped on his head again. " Answer me this: WHY does it bother you so much??? Don't get angry, li'l buddy. You come here specifically to anger people (including me), and you are mocked for being such an asshole. And that makes you angry. "excess compression" "peak limiting" "LOUDNESS" Hobbyhorse! Ride-em Kowboy! If those three terms were drawn from the hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagnall's porch, Karnac would respond, "Name three of Theckma's hobbyhorse obsessions that he is too retarded to comprehend." There, do those terms make you want to drive off the road?! You're the one who brags about how you can't even stay in your lane on the highway. Do you expect others to drive like retards as well? |
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On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 8:01:25 AM UTC-4, wrote:
... wrote: "Oops. The retarded dumb **** got dropped on his head again. " Answer me this: WHY does it bother you so much??? Why aren't Dorsey, Rivers, Larsen, Williamson, geoff, Trevor, and a hundred others resorting to a diatribe of verbal diarrhea like what you post here?? "excess compression" "peak limiting" "LOUDNESS" There, do those terms make you want to drive off the road?! One day, I said, one day, we'll hear some of None's audio work. Jack |
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John Williamson wrote:
On 13/05/2016 00:46, JackA wrote: On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote: On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Better still, you get some decent monitoring and learn to listen to what's there, and we'll stop heckling you. The guy _enjoys_ being heckled. He is here to be heckled. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 9:03:51 AM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey wrote:
John Williamson wrote: On 13/05/2016 00:46, JackA wrote: On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote: On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Better still, you get some decent monitoring and learn to listen to what's there, and we'll stop heckling you. The guy _enjoys_ being heckled. He is here to be heckled. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I come here hoping someone could answer the simple question, what main problem was there with early mastering of audio CDs. I get the old story, DAC convertors issues. So bored of the lack of past audio knowledge, since no one here was mastering early CDs, I came across a defunct website that clearly stated the problem/issue. Heckle that, pros. Jack |
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петак, 13. мај 2016. 15.44.59 UTC+2, JackA је написао/ла:
On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 9:03:51 AM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey wrote: John Williamson wrote: On 13/05/2016 00:46, JackA wrote: On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote: On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Better still, you get some decent monitoring and learn to listen to what's there, and we'll stop heckling you. The guy _enjoys_ being heckled. He is here to be heckled. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I come here hoping someone could answer the simple question, what main problem was there with early mastering of audio CDs. I get the old story, DAC convertors issues. So bored of the lack of past audio knowledge, since no one here was mastering early CDs, I came across a defunct website that clearly stated the problem/issue. Heckle that, pros. Jack It's been a long time since I've read one of your posts, but the main reason for you to think nobody's answering your question is your inability to understand provided answers. Also, your questions are not clear, if I remember correctly, you can't distinguish btw recording, mixing and mastering, btw multitrack and stereo, and so on. Therefore, you are not satisfied with answers, but still, answers are there. |
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On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 7:58:39 AM UTC-4, Luxey wrote:
петак, 13. мај 2016. 15.44.59 UTC+2, JackA је написао/ла: On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 9:03:51 AM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey wrote: John Williamson wrote: On 13/05/2016 00:46, JackA wrote: On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote: On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Better still, you get some decent monitoring and learn to listen to what's there, and we'll stop heckling you. The guy _enjoys_ being heckled. He is here to be heckled. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I come here hoping someone could answer the simple question, what main problem was there with early mastering of audio CDs. I get the old story, DAC convertors issues. So bored of the lack of past audio knowledge, since no one here was mastering early CDs, I came across a defunct website that clearly stated the problem/issue. Heckle that, pros. Jack It's been a long time... Shame it was so short! Jack |
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понедељак, 30. мај 2016. 03.10.07 UTC+2, JackA је написао/ла:
On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 7:58:39 AM UTC-4, Luxey wrote: петак, 13. мај 2016. 15.44.59 UTC+2, JackA је написао/ла: On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 9:03:51 AM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey wrote: John Williamson wrote: On 13/05/2016 00:46, JackA wrote: On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 5:23:37 PM UTC-4, geoff wrote: On 13/05/2016 2:10 a.m., JackA wrote: Why the 2009 Beatles Remasters waited until DAW existed. THEY spent FOUR years on the "project" and really didn't accomplish much. Not impressed at all. Jack so someone wise So you are deaf as well as stupid. Look, you and John W. can stick with your kindergarten audio and I'll do my thing. Deal? Better still, you get some decent monitoring and learn to listen to what's there, and we'll stop heckling you. The guy _enjoys_ being heckled. He is here to be heckled. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." I come here hoping someone could answer the simple question, what main problem was there with early mastering of audio CDs. I get the old story, DAC convertors issues. So bored of the lack of past audio knowledge, since no one here was mastering early CDs, I came across a defunct website that clearly stated the problem/issue. Heckle that, pros. Jack It's been a long time... Shame it was so short! Jack Good, (as long as) it is not any more. |
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