[algagaa]

We are all in quest of true happiness. In this world, the idea of
true/perfect happiness is not feasible because this world is
inevitably doomed to total annihilation. True happiness is found only
in dwelling upon Paradise, and enjoying its blessings. However, none
would enter Paradise except the purified (those who are void of sins,
void of an atom of grudge or malignance). Since Paradise is created
only for the purified/pious, those who have evil looks (looking
lustfully at strange women, and vice versa), who envy others, treat
their fellowmen badly, hate mankind, or backbite cannot enter
Paradise. To conclude, none can enter Paradise unless totally
purified (sin-free).

Those who indulge in illegal talk (backbiting, using indecent
language, etc.), or have sinful hearts are denied entry to Paradise.
Allah (The sublime) said: "And those who kept their duty to Lord (AL-
Muttaquin) will be driven/led to Paradise in groups, and when they
reach there, its gates will be opened (before their arrival for their
reception) and its keepers will say: Salamun Alaikum (peace be upon
you)! How blessed you are (being sin-free and having done well), enter
here (Paradise) to abide therein eternally." Surat Az-Zumar/The
Groups: 73.

In another Surah, Allah says: "Those whose lives the angels take while
they are in a pious state (pure from all evil, and worshipping none
but only Allah) will be addressed as such: Salamun Alaikum (peace be
upon you) enter Paradise due to that which you used to do (during your
mortal life/in the world). Surat An-Nahl/The Bees: 32.

The above-mentioned verses set the condition that, in order to enter
Paradise, we have to be sin-free and void of an atom of guilt! One may
argue that since we are all sinners, it seems that none can enter
Paradise!

Well, it is true that only the pious can enter Paradise, but, Allah
(The Glorified), with His vast mercy, established eleven means to help
us be purified: 4 in this world, 3 in the grave, and another 4 on the
Day of Resurrection. These eleven means of purification aim at
enabling us to cross/walk on the straight path rather than to slip and
fall. This path is stretched over Hell fire and it is finer than a
hair and sharper than the edge of a razor/sword!



Knowing the nature of the straight path, one may question how people
would tread on that path! Well, some will cross/walk on it as fast as
the blink of an eye, others will be as fast as the light, others will
be as fast as the wind, others will crawl, and others will cling to
the path, then the angels will lead and/or encourage them onwards
(lest they should fall into Hell fire), while others will be snatched
by the hooks (attached to the path) to ensure/hasten their fall into
Fire.

4 Means/Standpoints of Purification in this World

1. Repentance:
Repentance is not limited to asking for forgiveness or invoking
Allah's mercy, rather, it is one of the greatest religious rituals to
win Allah's love/satisfaction and a means to get closer to Him. Allah
(The Sublime) says: "Allah loves those who turn unto Him in repentance
and loves those who purify themselves (by taking a bath and cleaning
and washing thoroughly their private parts/bodies (in preparation for
their prayers)". Surat AL-Baqarah/The Cow: 222.

Repentance removes sins, as Allah (The Sublime) says: "And verily, I'm
indeed forgiving to him who repents, believes in My Oneness, and
associates none in worshipping with Me, did righteous good deeds, and
then remained faithful to such belief and good deeds". Surat Ta-Ha:
82.

Repentance changes evil deeds into good ones. Allah (The Glorified
and The Exalted) said: "Except those who repented, believed in
monotheism, and did righteous deeds; for those, Allah will change
their sins into good deeds, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful
". Surat AL-Furqan/The Criterion: 70.

2. Asking for Forgiveness:
We (Moslems) should always ask Allah to forgive our sins (whether
remembered or not). Allah's Messenger (PBUH), though being the most
pious, endowed with the most knowledge of his Lord, and having had
both his past and future guilt pardoned/forgiven (by Allah), he used
to ask for Allah's forgiveness as many as a hundred times a day (an
action that won't take more than a minute of your time). In this
respect, the prophet (PBUH) says: "I swear by Allah, I do ask for
Allah's
forgiveness more than 70 times a day". This Hadith is quoted by AL-
Bokhari.

Also, Bin Omar (the son of Omar)-may Allah be content with them all-
said: we used to count for the messenger of Allah (in one session and
before leaving his place) as many as 100 times saying: "O Lord!
Forgive me my sins and accept my repentance, you are the One Who
accepts repentance, the Most Merciful". This Hadith is quoted by Abu
Dawoud and AL-Turmuzi.

3. Good Deeds Remove Bad deeds:
Change bad deeds with good ones because Abu Dhar Ibn Jundub and Abu
abdulrahman Bin Muaz Bin Jabal (may Allah be content with them all)
narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: "Fear Allah wherever you
are and be keen to always change your bad deeds with good ones, and be
nice to people." This Hadith is quoted by AL-Turmuzi.

Allah also said: "And perform As-Salaah (the daily five prayers) at
the two ends of the day and in some hours in the night. Verily, the
good deeds remove the bad ones. That is a reminder to those who
always remember Allah (in prayers, while standing, sitting, or lying
down on their sides)". Surat Hud: 114.

We must endeavor to do good deeds (no matter how simple they are).
For example, we can replace "Hi" and/or "Bye" (even these two simple
words are considered as "Good Deeds") with As-Salamu Alaikum and
utilize our leisure time by always remembering Allah at all times
(standing, sitting, eating, sleeping, working, driving, etc.).

The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) had always the desire to do a lot of
good deeds (on a daily basis). For example, he refused to accept a
present (a camel as a means of transportation) from his best companion
(Abu Bark) for free, and insisted that he share its cost, thus hoping
to be worthy of winning the reward of AL-Hijra (immigration to
Medina).

We, likewise, need to do good deeds (not in quantity but in quality).
Good deeds are best manifested in being wholly dedicated to your
parents (especially in their old age) praying in the late hours of the
night, praying in the early hours of dawn
time, wearing the veil, and performing work perfectly.

4. Purifying Calamities:
Allah puts His servants under severe tests (in this world) to
have them purified from their sins and to enter Paradise sin-free.
However, some people (not realizing the wisdom of such plights/tests)
lament their destiny by saying; "O Lord, why have You ordained us
(especially us) with such calamities?"

Those who did not repent, did not ask for forgiveness, did not do good
deeds, and/or were not put to tests (i.e., not purified) in this world
still have another chance for purification and that will take place in
their graves! Thus, missing purification in this world (while being
alive) will be completed in one's grave (while lying dead)! And that
shows how great this religion is, as you won't be left but sin-free
(either in this world or while lying dead in your grave).

To conclude, due to Allah's vast mercy and the simple demands for
entering Paradise, we can say that none (of the Moslems) will enter
Fire, (i.e., or more accurately, they will not abide there eternally).

3 Means/Standpoints of Purification in the Grave

5. The Funeral Prayer
In this prayer, it is not the number of those standing behind the
deceased (in a mosque) performing due funeral prayer that counts,
instead it is the quality of the true believers who are present in
this kind of prayer. The sincere supplications that come from such
believers (in such congregations) will benefit the deceased.
Though being dead, sincere supplication will greatly help the deceased
to be purified for Paradise.

6. The Trial of the Grave
Trial of the grave is best manifested in the questions asked by two
angels (immediately after lying the dead in his grave): Who is your
Lord? What is your religion? And what do you think about the man who
was sent amongst you? (Referring to Allah's Messenger, PBUH). Other
examples a your fear facing these two angels, being alone in the
grave (nobody there to support you), the darkness of the grave and,
finally, your fear as you are enclosed therein. These trials are
other means to remove all of our sins.

Those who have already been purified (while alive in the world) will
not be subject to other trials (while lying dead in their graves.)


The prophet (PBUH) says: "A grave is either an orchard for Paradise or
a pitfall for Hell". To conclude, a grave is not (as it is thought to
be) a hideous dark place for beasts; on the contrary, it could be an
orchard for Paradise!

7. Contribution of the Living to the Dead:
When a Moslem dies, he can still have his sins removed by the good and
sincere deeds dedicated to him by the living (especially from his
relatives). The Ulamah (the religiously lectured of the nation)
unanimously agree that all good deeds done by the living such as
performing pilgrimage, Umrah (the visit to Al-Ka'ba in Makka), and
sincere supplications do reach the dead only to purify them and then
be sin-free.

In this respect, Abu Hurairah (one of the prophet's, PBUH, companions)
said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: "When the son of Adam dies,
nothing will benefit him except one of the following three good
righteous deeds: a non-stop Sadakah (charity), some kind of knowledge
he left behind (useful to society), or a sincere supplication of his
son." This Hadith is quoted by Moslim.

Therefore, if someone (who is really dear to you) is dead, you can
perform pilgrimage, do Umrah, or pay Sadakah on their behalf (so that
they become sin-free). Remember that the more useful the Sadakah to
society is, the more the reward is, (needless to say that you will
have your share as well).

To realize how merciful/great this religion is, it is important to
know that somebody (while lying dead in his grave) can be freed from
suffering/torment by the supplications of others who wish the deceased
to be purified and sin-free for entry into Paradise.

4 Means/Standpoints of Purification on the Day of Resurrection

8. Horrors on the Day of Resurrection:
Seeing the sun folded-up, the stars fall (after loosing their light),
the seas blown-up, and the earth shaken with its (final) earthquake
are all sin removers.

9. Standing Before Allah (The Glorified, The AL-Mighty):
Another means to purify us from our sins is standing humbly


before Allah in an attempt to answer/face His following questions/
blame: My servant, didn't I bestow you with My blessings? Didn't I
give you wealth? Weren't I the Watchful when you had illegal looks
(Men looking lustfully at women, and vice versa, or at whatever you
shouldn't)? Weren't I the Watchful when you used indecent language
(thus misusing communication with others? Allah then keeps addressing
His servant as saying: My servant, you have underestimated the day
when you stand before Me! Were you fearless of the notion that the
time will come when you stand before Me! You have put on beautiful
masks (before all people) only to come before Me with the worst in
you! My servant, what made you fall into deception (ignoring that I Am
the Watchful)?

10.Allah's Amnesty:
This is the greatest means in purifying us from our sins. Just as the
prophets have already interceded, as did His Messengers and as did the
believers, Allah (The Glorified, the Sublime) says: Wouldn't I?

Even knowing that we can all enter Paradise, there are still those who
will fall off the path (for they deserve it). Others will not be
purified even after passing through the above-mentioned eleven means
of purification! They will fall into Fire, as they are sinful as well
as guilty of committing foul/bad deeds, full of hatred and ever
holding on to grudges. And the only way to purify such sinners is to
let Fire do its job (similar to a piece of gold, which doesn't get its
purity unless it is put into fire for the period required to make all
other alloys vanish! In fact, the more it stays there, the greater its
purity gets!

Likewise, whoever eventually falls into Fire will stay there long
enough to become purified (depending on how sinful he is). Immediately
after being completely purified (after dwelling in Hell for some
time), the angels will greet him saying: "Peace be upon you, dwell
here (in Paradise) forever."

In conclusion, in this world we own three of the means of the above-
mentioned eleven purification standpoints: repentance, asking for
forgiveness, and performing good deeds to remove the bad ones.
Therefore, let's make as much use of them as we can
(while we are still alive/before it is too late).



Remember that if you are a true believer (paying duty to Allah,
believing in monotheism and associating none with Allah in
worshipping), you will not suffer the trials in your grave and/or the
horrors of the Day of Resurrection.

(May Allah Bless You All)

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On Jan 27, 8:40*am, "Soundhaspriority" wrote:
"algagaa" wrote in message

...



We are all in quest of true happiness. *In this world, the idea of
true/perfect happiness is not feasible because this world is
inevitably doomed to total annihilation.

Dear Mr. Algagaa,
* * *You are spamming this group. It is a backfire. It makes people hate
Islam. Please stop.

I did not read his message but I'm guessing it is neither better nor
worse than the daily OTs from Ludwig , ScottW etc. This "group" has
changed into a sinkhole for the egomaniacs that no one read when they
were posting in their school wallpaper and who are now revenging
themselves on the helpless ether. It is hopeless. The only cure would
be for someone to start an audio group that would automatically reject
the OTs.. Any takers?
Ludovic Mirabel.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 27, 2:50*pm, "ScottW" wrote:

RAHE already exists....though I see Ludo's got nothing for
that group as well.
If you've got something to discuss...let's hear it.
All I recall from Ludo is whining about OT.
Without it...he'd almost never post.
Which is actually about the best argument against
OT I've heard yet.

2pid, your vocabulary word for today is "irony".

Please study it. There will be a test. The test results will represent
50% of your grade.

lol Lol LoL lOl LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 27, 3:15*pm, "ScottW" wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in ...
On Jan 27, 2:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

RAHE already exists....though I see Ludo's got nothing for
that group as well.
If you've got something to discuss...let's hear it.
All I recall from Ludo is whining about OT.
Without it...he'd almost never post.
Which is actually about the best argument against
OT I've heard yet.

:2pid, your vocabulary word for today is "irony".

:Please study it. There will be a test. The test results will represent
:50% of your grade.

You and Ludo are peas in a pod....all you do is whine.

How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. *Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.

Wow. From unquoted 'insiders' making a claim to that claim being
absolute gospel in one paragraph.

Sadly, this exposes your 'reasoning' skills for what they a
nonexistent.

[George M. Middius]

Witless tries to wipe off the stink he's built up through years of being a
twerp and a dork.

All I recall from Ludo is whining about OT.

I say let's put it to a vote: Who is more annoying, Scottie or Ludo?
(Optional: Why?)

My vote: Scottie is more annoying.

My reasons: Scottie is stupid, pigheaded, obtuse, ideologically twisted,
irrational, immature, inarticulate, morally reprobate, intellectually
stunted, and unable to learn from his mistakes.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 27, 6:02*pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:

*Why don't you twaddle your geriatric bottom over to r.a.h-e, or any
of the others? Or better yet volunteer to moderate a r.a.o.moderated
group? Or start a forum on your own host?

As an easier solution that doesn't require any work by anybody,
including you, why don't you stop posting your racist drivel on a
audio group?

Now *there's* a thought...

[George M. Middius]

Herr Bratzi hat gesacht:

If a racist is a person who acknowledges there is such a thing as
race and that it has consequences and aclnowledges them openly, you
bet your sweet fat ass I am a racist.

Bingo.

In this I am different from others only in acknowledging it.

Maybe there are some people who fit that description, but most of us don't
accept your racist nonsense, and we certainly don't believe it ourselves.

BTW, I once called somebody the N word, but only after he called me the J
word. I sunk to his (and your) level, and I'm not proud.

[[email protected]]

On Jan 27, 4:22�pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:
�"Latino" is merely the Spanish male (the female obviously, "Latina")
term for "(of) Latinate (origin)".

In Spanish, "latinos" can mean both sexes. That's typical in Spanish
for the masculine item to override the feminine.

Boon

[George M. Middius]

Bratzi lied:

BTW, I once called somebody the N word, but only after he called me the J
word. I sunk to his (and your) level, and I'm not proud.

I've never called anyone that. I don't use racial derogatory terms in
conversation.

You use them on Usenet, which counts as conversation in mybook.

I say what I think, the truth, all of it I know. But
denigrating people is not helpful.

Then why do you do it?

[Clyde Slick]

On 27 Ian, 19:22, Bret Ludwig wrote:



If America is not to become Alta Mexico-corrupt, dingy, brown, and
smelling of ****-the mestizos need to be sent home.



I vote for getting rid of Arny vs sending back 12 million Mexicans.
That ought to solve our olfactory problem.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 27, 3:33*pm, "ScottW" wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in ...
On Jan 27, 3:15 pm, "ScottW" wrote:





"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in
...
On Jan 27, 2:50 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

RAHE already exists....though I see Ludo's got nothing for
that group as well.
If you've got something to discuss...let's hear it.
All I recall from Ludo is whining about OT.
Without it...he'd almost never post.
Which is actually about the best argument against
OT I've heard yet.

:2pid, your vocabulary word for today is "irony".

:Please study it. There will be a test. The test results will represent
:50% of your grade.

You and Ludo are peas in a pod....all you do is whine.

How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.

:Wow. From unquoted 'insiders' making a claim to that claim being
:absolute gospel in one paragraph.

Who needs to quote insiders when we have Bill equating Obamas win
to that of Jacksons?

Anyway, you couldn't even come to saying...no it's not true.

Why would I bother? Your 'logic' is faulty.

Just all about me...all the time.

LOL! Poor 2pid.

:Sadly, this exposes your 'reasoning' skills for what they a
:nonexistent.

I'm so heartbroken how you feel (sarcasm). But it's your life, you can
waste it any way you want.

So who were these unidentified "insiders", 2pid? The same ones who
attributed Clinton's win in New Hampshire to female voters?

Damn. Now who made that one about gender? And why didn't that bother
you?

lol Lol LoL lOl LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 27, 3:28*pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
Witless tries to wipe off the stink he's built up through years of being a
twerp and a dork.

All I recall from Ludo is whining about OT.

I say let's put it to a vote: Who is more annoying, Scottie or Ludo?
(Optional: Why?)

My vote: Scottie is more annoying.

That would be my vote as well.

My reasons: Scottie is stupid, pigheaded, obtuse, ideologically twisted,
irrational, immature, inarticulate, morally reprobate, intellectually
stunted, and unable to learn from his mistakes.

Well, aside from that, he's hypocritical, cannot communicate
effectively, incessantly whines, posts OT political garbage then
claims to somehow be 'superior' to other posters, has an unwarranted
extremely high opinion of himself, is a racist, a sexist and
homophobic, and he's uncurious (see "intellectually stunted").

And he's a self-confessed dog-licker. Yuck.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 27, 3:36*pm, "ScottW" wrote:
"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote in messagenews:dltpp3lqputbpob1hfq79ripv73oureo2j@4ax .com...



Witless tries to wipe off the stink he's built up through years of being a
twerp and a dork.

All I recall from Ludo is whining about OT.

I say let's put it to a vote: Who is more annoying, Scottie or Ludo?
(Optional: Why?)

My vote: Scottie is more annoying.

Ludo really has nothing to say.

Refer to my answer under "feelings of superiority" and "unwarranted
high opinion of himself".

Say, did "totally self-unaware" make it in there someplace? If not,
ass that to my reasons for voting as I did.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 27, 6:27*pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:

your sweet fat ass

Sorry, Bratzi. I still fit into my BDUs and maintain "fighting trim".

Now quit fantasizing about my ass. Maybe you should call 2pid?

[WindsorFox-{SS}-]

Soundhaspriority wrote:
"algagaa" wrote in message
...

We are all in quest of true happiness. In this world, the idea of
true/perfect happiness is not feasible because this world is
inevitably doomed to total annihilation.

Dear Mr. Algagaa,
You are spamming this group. It is a backfire. It makes people hate
Islam. Please stop.



I have to say I was not too keen on Islam before they started
spamming Usenet, but this definitely does not help.

--
"Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath

"Daytime television sucked 20 years ago,
and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette

[WindsorFox-{SS}-]

Bret Ludwig wrote:
How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.

I don't think they care.

The blacks are (as a group, yes some black individuals are very
bright and understand fully) so cognitively attenuated they can't
figure out that "The First Black President" would sell them down the
river to put himself or his Evita in the White House in a minute. The
steezers are a more important voting bloc than the blacks right now
and the delta will increase the more of Mexico's undesireable high-
Indio mestizos pour across the borders.


I've said that the only reason Obama has gotten this far is the
support of clueless black Americans supporting him for no reason other
than being black. I also feel they would be far better served by
supporting Alan Keyes.

--
"Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath

"Daytime television sucked 20 years ago,
and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette

[Clyde Slick]

On 28 Ian, 05:37, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.

I don't think they care.

The blacks are (as a group, yes some black individuals are very
bright and understand fully) so cognitively attenuated they can't
figure out that "The First Black President" would sell them down the
river to put himself or his Evita in the White House in a minute. The
steezers are a more important voting bloc than the blacks right now
and the delta will increase the more of Mexico's undesireable high-
Indio mestizos pour across the borders.

I've said that the only reason Obama has gotten this far is the
support of clueless black Americans supporting him for no reason other
than being black. I also feel they would be far better served by
supporting Alan Keyes.


Now I know what the "SS" stands for.

[[email protected]]

On Jan 27, 7:29*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On Jan 27, 3:36*pm, "ScottW" wrote:

"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote in messagenews:dltpp3lqputbpob1hfq79ripv73oureo2j@4ax .com...

Witless tries to wipe off the stink he's built up through years of being a
twerp and a dork.

All I recall from Ludo is whining about OT.

I say let's put it to a vote: Who is more annoying, Scottie or Ludo?
(Optional: Why?)

My vote: Scottie is more annoying.
Ludo really has nothing to say.

Refer to my answer under "feelings of superiority" and "unwarranted
high opinion of himself".

Say, did "totally self-unaware" make it in there someplace? If not,
ass that to my reasons for voting as I did.
====================
You say;
Refer to my answer under "feelings of superiority" and "unwarranted
high opinion of himself".
I think you misunderstand ScottW. He is the typical school dimwit who
found a place where people have to notice him willy-nilly. He is a
celeb. at last. He is an RAO writer and at night before falling asleep
he sees his name displayed in glorious Technicolor.

A few facts. I quit RAHE when Bates became its sole owner, after the
other monitor, Raynaud, left. Bates was then ree to convert RAHE into
the "objectivists only" mouthpiece and censor out the dissident
voices. RAHE no longer has any discussions and is dull as dull.
I do not contribute much here because my technical knowledge is zero.
Also I am no longer in the market for the latest and most expensive. I
used to read RAO because I wanted information from people who could
inform me about audio. Where are they now?
I am not interested in reading reprints from the duller bloggers or
corresponding with the NeoNazi dimwits like Ludwig who-give credit
where credit is due- has enough low cunning to shut up when caught in
one of his more outrageous idiocies. Example: He spouted something
about advantages of national-racial homogeneity. I pointed out to him
that his Prussians are a blend of Teutonic Knights with the aboriginal
Lithuanian- Prussians and Slavic Mazurs and Pomeranians. The name.
Prussia commemorates those aboriginal Prussians, southern East
Prussia was called Masuren (The peasants around Warsaw call themselves
Mazury), Slavic Pomorze (by the sea) became German Pomerania, the
Slavs surviving in Saxony call themselves Sorbs and Luzyce (Lauschitz
is the German version), one of the Nazi generals had that old Germanic
name-Von Blaskovitz and so on. So much for homogeneity and so much
for Ludwig- not a squeak out of him when he can not find it in one of
his blog-heroes.
The morons took over this audio forum and I'm inclined to leave them
to it..
Ludovic Mirabel.
..

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 28, 4:22*pm, ScottW wrote:
On Jan 28, 2:10*pm, " wrote:

Ludo states something honest about himself:

I do not contribute much here because my technical knowledge is zero.

2pid thumps his chest:

*and I'm the dimwit......

Don't ask questions that you don't want answers to, 2pid.

*Well Mr. Zero...what is it you would
like to see discussed that your Zero knowledge can comprehend?

No doubt he's looking for some more mindless cut-and-paste from LGF,
or perhaps more of your insights into what unnamed, unquoted political
"insiders" are saying about the primaries. Or perhaps you could join
in with Bratzi, who just compared the Talmud to Mein Kampf. You two
also could join hands and 'discuss' immigration. You both see things
the same way on that topic.

The possibilities are truly endless. Truly endless.

Here's one for you: why does tube equipment sound better than solid-
state equipment? Please only give technical answers. TIA!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

ScottW wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:
ScottW wrote:

Here's one for you: why does tube equipment sound better than solid-
state equipment? Please only give technical answers. TIA!

*Cuz the warm glow brings a peaceful feeling to everyone
except the psycho crazies like you.

Lol! LoL! lOl!

Another good one, 2pid! You're on a roll today!

Say, you're not having someone help you, are you? This isn't two
against one, is it?

For some reason this exchange just doesn't seem fair. LOL!

Now here's one for you.
Why do you and Ludo want everyone on RAO to stare
at blank computer screens?

As opposed to what?

Is it better to look at a big pile of dog **** in your yard, or is
bare grass OK with you?

(Hint for the particularly dense: this draws a direct comparison to
the reams of posts by 2pid and Bratzi (represented by the large pile
of dog **** in my question) to the "bare grass" of the blank computer
screen.)

[Jenn]

In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Jan 28, 4:37 am, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.

I don't think they care.

The blacks are (as a group, yes some black individuals are very
bright and understand fully) so cognitively attenuated they can't
figure out that "The First Black President" would sell them down the
river to put himself or his Evita in the White House in a minute. The
steezers are a more important voting bloc than the blacks right now
and the delta will increase the more of Mexico's undesireable high-
Indio mestizos pour across the borders.

I've said that the only reason Obama has gotten this far is the
support of clueless black Americans supporting him for no reason other
than being black. I also feel they would be far better served by
supporting Alan Keyes.

I don't begrudge black voters voting black. True, they would be
better off with a candidate promoting self-discipline and orderly
behavior on their part,

Obama doesn't do this?

[Jenn]

In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:


I want policies that make sense first, and most importantly, for my
people,

Why "most importantly" for "your people"?

I just don't get the whole racial pride thing.

[Jenn]

In article
,
ScottW wrote:

On Jan 28, 3:54*pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
*Bret Ludwig wrote:





On Jan 28, 4:37 am, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. *Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.

*I don't think they care.

*The blacks are (as a group, yes some black individuals are very
bright and understand fully) so cognitively attenuated they can't
figure out that "The First Black President" would sell them down the
river to put himself or his Evita in the White House in a minute. The
steezers are a more important voting bloc than the blacks right now
and the delta will increase the more of Mexico's undesireable high-
Indio mestizos pour across the borders.

* * I've said that the only reason Obama has gotten this far is the
support of clueless black Americans supporting him for no reason other
than being black. I also feel they would be far better served by
supporting Alan Keyes.

*I don't begrudge black voters voting black. True, they would be
better off with a candidate promoting self-discipline and orderly
behavior on their part,

Obama doesn't do this?

He communicates in plattitudes without considering consequences
of his policy proposals.

From his own site his energy policy to reduce carbon...

Reduce Carbon Emissions 80 Percent by 2050
Cap and Trade: Obama supports implementation of a market-based cap-and-
trade system to reduce carbon emissions by the amount scientists say
is necessary: 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. Obama's cap-and-
trade system will require all pollution credits to be auctioned. A 100
percent auction ensures that all polluters pay for every ton of
emissions they release, rather than giving these emission rights away
to coal and oil companies. Some of the revenue generated by auctioning
allowances will be used to support the development of clean energy, to
invest in energy efficiency improvements, and to address transition
costs, including helping American workers affected by this economic
transition.
Confront Deforestation and Promote Carbon Sequestration: Obama will
develop domestic incentives that reward forest owners, farmers, and
ranchers when they plant trees, restore grasslands, or undertake
farming practices that capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Every one of his proposals has serious

Of course.

and potentially dangerous
consequences.

In your opinion.

But boy...it all sounds great, doesn't it?

Refreshing, huh?

[George M. Middius]

Bratzi is incensed at the ascendancy of tolerance and liberalism.

[Mirabel] has "zero technical knowledge" despite eight years of
formal education.

Did he go to school to learn electronics, or perhaps some other field?

BTW, the ability to repair washing machines and replace brake liners is
not exactly the pinnacle of "technical knowledge".

[Jenn]

In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Jan 28, 6:00 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

I want policies that make sense first, and most importantly, for my
people,

Why "most importantly" for "your people"?

I just don't get the whole racial pride thing.

Well actually, it's more racial embarrassment. White Americans are
not necessarily the best people. Many are idiots.

I still don't understand the "my people" thing.


Actually the vast majority of any people are idiots, or more
accurately, lemmings. Pierce said

Pierce was one of the supreme assholes of the century.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 28, 5:53*pm, ScottW wrote:
On Jan 28, 3:36*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"





wrote:
ScottW wrote:
*"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:
*ScottW wrote:

Here's one for you: why does tube equipment sound better than solid-
state equipment? Please only give technical answers. TIA!

*Cuz the warm glow brings a peaceful feeling to everyone
except the psycho crazies like you.

Lol! LoL! lOl!

Another good one, 2pid! You're on a roll today!

Say, you're not having someone help you, are you? This isn't two
against one, is it?

For some reason this exchange just doesn't seem fair. LOL!

Now here's one for you.
Why do you and Ludo want everyone on RAO to stare
at blank computer screens?

As opposed to what?

Is it better to look at a big pile of dog **** in your yard, or is
bare grass OK with you?

*I think you've got rocks....after a while dog **** will
grow grass....rocks never will.

Still your solution is easy....it's called a power switch.
Leave it off and dream of all the grass you want.

Well, 2pid, it seems that your solution only applies to others (as
usual). Just today you were whining to me about me playing "20
questions" with Oliver in another thread on a recurring topic here.
This leads me to believe that you really don't want audio discussions
at all. You just want to post propaganda (like Bratzi) and whine.

Now why do you suppose that your 'solution' would only apply to me
(or, say, Ludo), and not to yourself? If RAO is so damned boring that
we need neonazi posts and LGF (BTW, those who are interested can
certainly find their way there all by themselves), and if you are
going to whine about me questioning someone on an audio-related topic
that always draws heated exchanges, particularly when the questioning
is done in a friendly manner, is there really any reason to 'save' it?

And, I might add, who is *really* destroying it? ;-)

As I said earlier, you have an unwarranted high opinion of yourself,
and of the value of your (and Bratzi's) 'output'. No wonder you're
always looking backward when you drive. That blind spot when you try
to look forward must be pretty intimidating.

[WindsorFox-{SS}-]

Bret Ludwig wrote:

I don't begrudge black voters voting black. True, they would be
better off with a candidate promoting self-discipline and orderly
behavior on their part, but that's like berating the fox for raiding
the hen house. That's what foxes do.

I begrudge the chicken coop owner who lets the fox in-because the
chicken coop is partly mine as well. I have to eat eggs and chicken
from the coop. Its management, or lack thereof, impacts me.

Steve Sailer, who does not hate blacks (which I don't either) has
correctly pointed out the issue: Blacks lack self-discipline and good
judgment, as a group. They don't think long term: their horizon is the
immediate.

A neighbor, black guy, not wealthy, not poor, but a gun owner and a
hunter. Expressly told me he was supporting Obama just because he was
black. I asked if he knew that Obama was for not just amnesty for
illegal immigrants but also giving them drives licenses. He was a little
surprised. I asked him, who works in a bank and has a permit to carry a
weapon if he new Obama was for gun control and was openly for a national
law against carrying a concealed weapon except for military or retired
police. His jaw dropped. That's when I pointed if he wanted to vote for
someone solely on their race, take a look at Alan Keyes. I think the
part "vote for someone solely on their race" hit home too, as he said he
had some research to do. Very intelligent guy, but like too many people
who exercise their right to vote he didn't look at any information or
even talk to anyone about the issues first.

--
"Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath

"Daytime television sucked 20 years ago,
and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette

[WindsorFox-{SS}-]

Clyde Slick wrote:
On 28 Ian, 05:37, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.
I don't think they care.
The blacks are (as a group, yes some black individuals are very
bright and understand fully) so cognitively attenuated they can't
figure out that "The First Black President" would sell them down the
river to put himself or his Evita in the White House in a minute. The
steezers are a more important voting bloc than the blacks right now
and the delta will increase the more of Mexico's undesireable high-
Indio mestizos pour across the borders.
I've said that the only reason Obama has gotten this far is the
support of clueless black Americans supporting him for no reason other
than being black. I also feel they would be far better served by
supporting Alan Keyes.


Now I know what the "SS" stands for.

Really? What does the SS stand for and pray tell me why you think
that? Oh, and please before you answer, look up who Alan Keyes is and
know that I would not hesitate for one second to vote for him if he
faced any other Democrat running right now. After you learn who Alan
Keyes is and what he stands for (here's a little help
http://www.chooseyourprez.com/index.html) I still want to know what you
think my clan tag stands for. None of this changes my opinion that
Clinton has a lot of votes from clueless women who support her for no
reason other than being a woman.

--
"Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath

"Daytime television sucked 20 years ago,
and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette

[Clyde Slick]

On 28 Ian, 21:48, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
Clyde Slick wrote:



Really? What does the SS stand for and pray tell me why you think
that? Oh, and please before you answer, look up who Alan Keyes is and
know that I would not hesitate for one second to vote for him if he
faced any other Democrat running right now. After you learn who Alan
Keyes is and what he stands for (here's a little helphttp://www.chooseyourprez.com/index.html) I still want to know what you
think my clan tag stands for. None of this changes my opinion that
Clinton has a lot of votes from clueless women who support her for no
reason other than being a woman.



I'm from Maryland, I know all about

[Clyde Slick]

On 28 Ian, 21:48, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
Clyde Slick wrote:
On 28 Ian, 05:37, WindsorFox-{SS}- wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
How do you like the Clintons trying to maneuver Barack into
being "the black" candidate?
Insiders are saying Bill intentionally drove the black vote to
him in S. Carolina so they can go to super Tuesday with him
painted as the black candidate. They realized they couldn't
win in S. Carolina so they intentionally ****ed off the black
voters. Sadly, this may actually
work for the hispanic vote. I hope the rest of the party realizes
what a despicable tactic this is.
I don't think they care.
The blacks are (as a group, yes some black individuals are very
bright and understand fully) so cognitively attenuated they can't
figure out that "The First Black President" would sell them down the
river to put himself or his Evita in the White House in a minute. The
steezers are a more important voting bloc than the blacks right now
and the delta will increase the more of Mexico's undesireable high-
Indio mestizos pour across the borders.
I've said that the only reason Obama has gotten this far is the
support of clueless black Americans supporting him for no reason other
than being black. I also feel they would be far better served by
supporting Alan Keyes.

Now I know what the "SS" stands for.

Really? What does the SS stand for and pray tell me why you think
that? Oh, and please before you answer, look up who Alan Keyes is and
know that I would not hesitate for one second to vote for him if he
faced any other Democrat running right now. After you learn who Alan
Keyes is and what he stands for (here's a little helphttp://www.chooseyourprez.com/index.html) I still want to know what you
think my clan tag stands for. None of this changes my opinion that
Clinton has a lot of votes from clueless women who support her for no
reason other than being a woman.

--

I am from Maryland, I know all about Alan Keyes.
He is almost as insane as Arny. A real lunatic.
An absolutist.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 29, 12:13*am, "ScottW" wrote:

* Snipping sentences to be trite now?

Some people should not talk about snipping in posts, as some people
have no leg to stand on.

Do you kow what "trite" means? I'm just curious. Perhaps I don't.
Would you explain it to me?

Matters

Yes, it does.

little.

It may matter a lot. Am I just being "trite" here? LOL!

Say, are you voting in the Dem caucus? I hope not. I have a theory
that Dems are more intelligent than republicans. If you went to the
Dem caucus it would shoot my theory all to hell.

*Obama crushed his own campaign today
with support for illegal drivers licenses in Ca and amnesty.

Well, first of all, I would presume that the licenses, once issued,
would be legal. Do you drink a lot, 2pid?

I suppose the alternative of having unlicensed drivers driving around
makes more sense to some people who are 'deep thinkers'. Just 'think':
14 million traffic accidents, and all the illegal immigrants will be
caught!

All to pander to Hispanics in Ca. *How incredibly stupid can
he be?

Yeah. He's not for committing the massive resources required to round
up millions of people and ship them off either. And now one possible
avenue to round them up, traffic accidents, has been closed. What a
dummy!

It takes a truly 'deep' 'thinker' to see the 'logic' on that one.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 28, 9:46*pm, "ScottW" wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in ...
On Jan 28, 5:53 pm, ScottW wrote:

and if you are
going to whine about me questioning someone on an audio-related topic
that always draws heated exchanges, particularly when the questioning
is done in a friendly manner, is there really any reason to 'save' it?

You playing Dr. Phil is hardly interesting audio.

There's this thing called a "power switch". If you don't want to...

Never mind. I forgot that some solutions only apply to others.

Say, 2pid, since you're such a computer 'genius', have you ever
wondered why only *your* posts have gibberish like this in them? I'd
imagine that you're all over formatting and ****.

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in
messagenews:93afeb41-fe58-44f5-
...

It's so uneccesary. Unless, of course, you're so stupid that you
forgot what message you were responding to and you need it to remind
you. Another possibility is that when your motor 'races' you need a
reminder of what the inside of your 'mind' looks like. I can't rule
that one out either.

Do you see how clean mine look in comparison? Perhaps you could check
your defaults.

lol Lol LoL lOl LOL!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 28, 6:45*pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:
No doubt he's looking for some more mindless cut-and-paste from LGF,
or perhaps more of your insights into what unnamed, unquoted political
"insiders" are saying about the primaries. Or perhaps you could join
in with Bratzi, who just compared the Talmud to Mein Kampf. You two
also could join hands and 'discuss' immigration. You both see things
the same way on that topic.

*And why not, they're equally racialist and equally (in)decent. One is
at least more portable and less tedious, though still not
terrifically *understandable.

I haven't seen the quotes from the Talmud which put it on par with
Mein Kampf. Did I miss them?

Unless you can back up what you say, it isn't true even if you click
your heels together and come to attention when you say it.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"ScottW" wrote:


Every one of his proposals has serious

Of course.

Snipping sentences to be trite now?


and potentially dangerous
consequences.

I inserted "Of course" because any proposed solution to the important
issues of the day has serious consequences. But thanks for the snot.

[Jenn]

In article
,
ScottW wrote:

On Jan 29, 8:30*am, Jenn wrote:
In article ,

*"ScottW" wrote:
Every one of his proposals has serious

Of course.

* Snipping sentences to be trite now?

and potentially dangerous
consequences.

I inserted "Of course"

but split the sentence before consequences
leaving your meaning....nebulous.

I think that most normal readers understand the meaning.
So let me know if you want to discuss something.


because any proposed solution to the important
issues of the day has serious consequences. *But thanks for the snot.

You earned it.

Thanks.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 29, 10:30*am, Jenn wrote:
In article ,

*"ScottW" wrote:
Every one of his proposals has serious

Of course.

* Snipping sentences to be trite now?

and potentially dangerous
consequences.

I inserted "Of course" because any proposed solution to the important
issues of the day has serious consequences. *But thanks for the snot.

It would appear that 2pid 'thinks' this reads the same as what you
posted:

Every one of his proposals has serious and potentially dangerous consequences.

Of course.

But we know all about 2pid's challenges with the English language.

Now will you *puhleeeeze* quit snipping posts to be "trite"? LOL!

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said to Witlessmongrel:

*But thanks for the snot.

You earned it.

Thanks.

Scottie's macho posturing is eroding faster than usual. Not to worry, Jenn
-- he's steamed at moi over the ultra-embarrassing truth about Dr. Z.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 29, 1:33*pm, ScottW wrote:
On Jan 29, 8:30*am, Jenn wrote:

*"ScottW" wrote:
Every one of his proposals has serious

Of course.

* Snipping sentences to be trite now?

and potentially dangerous
consequences.

I inserted "Of course"

*but split the sentence before consequences
*leaving your meaning....nebulous.

Here's the meaning, 2pid: Jenn agrees that major policy decisions
obviously have serious consequences. She does not necessarily agree
that they are dangerous, or even potentially dangerous.

If she said "Of course" *after* your entire statement, she is agreeing
with all of it. So she had a choice of being "trite" (LOL!) or being
honest. However, since she understands English, we already know that
she cannot be 'honest' to you. You have therefore set up an impossible
dilemma for her, which she fought through as best as she could.

because any proposed solution to the important
issues of the day has serious consequences. *But thanks for the snot.

You earned it. *

Is Jenn a "bitch" because she understands English, or does she just
lack 'moral fiber', 'integrity', and 'honesty' like me? Or am I a
"bitch" too?

Like Teddy claiming Obama is the next JFK....I guess he expects him to
get whacked if elected.

Does that make Romney the next bushie?

Quick question, 2pid: why do you want to destroy the US?

lol Lol LoL lOl LOL!

[Bassplayer12]

We are all in quest of true happiness. In this world, the idea of
true/perfect happiness is not feasible because this world is
inevitably doomed to total annihilation.

Dear Mr. Algagaa,
You are spamming this group. It is a backfire. It makes people hate
Islam. Please stop.

We already do.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Jan 29, 6:46*pm, ScottW wrote:
On Jan 29, 1:24*pm, Jenn wrote:

*ScottW wrote:
On Jan 29, 8:30*am, Jenn wrote:

*"ScottW" wrote:
Every one of his proposals has serious

Of course.

* Snipping sentences to be trite now?

and potentially dangerous
consequences.

I inserted "Of course"

*but split the sentence before consequences
*leaving your meaning....nebulous.

I think that most normal readers understand the meaning.
So let me know if you want to discuss something.

*Nah, *Walking on pins and needles with fear of disturbing
your fragile crystal sensibilities isn't woth it.

Why do you do that?

I mean, why do you misunderstand something and then attack someone who
corrects you? Talk about "fragile crystal sensibilities"...

I also see that your browser's reply defaults are still over your
head. oh well.