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"Andre Jute" said:
Can you run Maggies that close to the wall or ist a trick of photographic perspective? The MG1s are about 1 meter from the wall, the SMGAs are a bit closer. Not optimal theoretically, but in the listening position, this suited me best. The door on the left is a problem, though. I need to put carpet on it, or hang some curtains behind the left speakers. In my hurry to finish a certain amplifier, I forgot to include a volume pot to match levels between both pairs..... The proto is built into the ugly Yamaha case that is on top of my even uglier hybrid 19 inch case ;-) Real beauty lies inside! (that's what my wife tells me every time I look in the mirror and spot some more grey hairs....) -- "Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks." |
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The Middiot Loses It All
"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast
[dot] net wrote in message The Krooborg is konfused. Krooglish from the source. criminials From "THe USeNET hand-book of Reel wurds, LOt"S", c. 1999, LiarBorg Press, Goose Puke, MI: criminials (n): 1. individuals known or suspected by the Krooborg to have participated in conspiracies against the Krooborg 2. undercover kiddie porn police officers 3. former Kroopologists I can certainly recognize some of these "criminials" who populate your nightmares, Arnii. In that sense, I am qualified to label them as such. BTW, I can't help but notice that you have never repudiated the unflagging support you receive from Bwian McConArtist. It's amazing how much snot Middius can liberate[sic] in just one post. His immense schnzola no doubt resulted from his Pinocchio-like obsession with lying. Sorry for you Middiot, that the ordinary English word "liberate" is over your head. Arnii, I apologize because my Krooglish decoder failed to map "liberate" onto a corresponding human word. Try using a standard English dictionary, Middiot. |
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Sander DeWaal wrote: In my hurry to finish a certain amplifier, I forgot to include a volume pot to match levels between both pairs..... The proto is built into the ugly Yamaha case that is on top of my even uglier hybrid 19 inch case ;-) Mmm. All my amps are protos. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Seriously, when I finish an amp case that tidily, I declare it a work of art. Yours looks a bit Bauhaus... Real beauty lies inside! (that's what my wife tells me... A woman of great judgement. Andre Jute |
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The Krooborg and the Kompany It Keeps
The Beast is angry, very angry. Feces vapor is pouring from its orifices. BTW, I can't help but notice that you have never repudiated the unflagging support you receive from Bwian McConArtist. It's amazing how much snot Middius can liberate[sic] in just one post. His immense schnzola no doubt resulted from his Pinocchio-like obsession with lying. Sorry for you Middiot, that the ordinary English word "liberate" is over your head. ;-) Arnii, I apologize because my Krooglish decoder failed to map "liberate" onto a corresponding human word. Try using a standard English dictionary, Middiot. This is where you need to consult your shrink, Mr. ****. To say I "liberated snot" implies it was being held captive. If that's what you meant, who would you suggest was the snot-captor? Rather than ascribing such a bizarre and twisted train of thought to you, in your infinite ****fulness, I thought it much more likely that you had simply lapsed into Krooglish. Now that you've dug yourself into a hole, your choices are (a) admit you were Krooglishing when you misdeployed "liberate" instead of a meaningful human word, (b) accept my parsing that leads to an unnamed captor of the "snot" you perceive, or (c) keep flailing away and make yourself look stupid, as you customarily do. Also, I would like to remind you of the existence of a marvelous tool called a spell-checker. If your computer skills were a little sharper, you would know how to use one, thereby avoiding the embarrassment of plopping pseudo-words like "schnzola" in public. Are you capable of admitting you Krooglished here as well? Facts must rattle you, Turdy. You can't do your "debating trade" shilly-shally with facts. No response from the Krooborg. Thank's Mr. Kroofeces for, admitting Mr. Turdborg that, something about the "debating trade" being allergic to facts Mr. ****-for-Dinner. -- "Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible." A. Krooger, Aug. 2006 |
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On 28 Aug 2006 16:53:00 -0700, "
wrote: Just because you can't get an erection does not mean sex is stupid  Eh? |
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On 30 Aug 2006 11:30:45 -0700, "
wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: Mr. Jute I see the light. "Subtle wit" can go no further. You're bang in there with the best of them. Did you try writing for that screamingly funny citadel of subtle English wit the "Punch" mag.? Ludovic Mirabel Please don't hesitate to straighten me out if I'm still missing something. Nothing like an example. But you must admit Andre IS funny, Ludo. That thing about people throwing themselves against his ankles---I still chuckle every time I read that. I mean, you don't get truly profound conceptual wit like that every day, even on RAO, the source of most of the wit on usenet. I think you should give Andre his due. Plus all his wit is malicious, which is the kind I like best. Don Rickles, where are you!? |
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On 30 Aug 2006 10:41:50 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:
several of the ladies who carry my water and dry clothes up mountains for me Is Women's Lib altitude limited? |
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The Krooborg and the Kompany It Keeps
George M. Middius muddled: Its usual whining, puling, silly, stupid illiterate twaddle.... Now, Mr. Middius. Which is it that bothers you mo That Mr. Andrew Jute McCoy's fingers are so far up your fundament that you can taste them at the back of your throat? Or that you are only its second favorite sockpuppet? Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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paul packer wrote: On 30 Aug 2006 11:30:45 -0700, " wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: Mr. Jute I see the light. "Subtle wit" can go no further. You're bang in there with the best of them. Did you try writing for that screamingly funny citadel of subtle English wit the "Punch" mag.? Ludovic Mirabel Please don't hesitate to straighten me out if I'm still missing something. Nothing like an example. But you must admit Andre IS funny, Ludo. That thing about people throwing themselves against his ankles---I still chuckle every time I read that. I mean, you don't get truly profound conceptual wit like that every day, even on RAO, the source of most of the wit on usenet. I think you should give Andre his due. Plus all his wit is malicious, which is the kind I like best. Don Rickles, where are you!? -------------------------------------------------- Paul says: But you must admit Andre IS funny, Ludo. That thing about people throwing themselves against his ankles---I still chuckle every time I read that. I mean, you don't get truly profound conceptual wit like that every day, even on RAO, the source of most of the wit on usenet. I think you should give Andre his due. Of course he is hilariously funny. Your evidence is foolproof. I tried to match it quoting his nomination of "a $200:00 speaker I designed " for the 4th. best in the world. Some puzzlement: does he too think it is funny?t Is it a part of his "subtle wit" praised by his American admirer ? Or is he at his best when he intends to be taken seriously ie. is he unintentionally funny. Anyone wants to vote? Ludovic Mirabel |
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"Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... Margaret von B wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: And which "much more expensive" speaker system outclasses even the second best Lowther? Here is a classification of the best speakers ever made: 1. Quad first series ESL of 1957. The speaker designer's reference. Yeah, Planets sounds so grand with the Quads. I'm sorry you're poor, Maggie. Quads are cheap, you dumb ass. |
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Margaret von B said: I'm sorry you're poor, Maggie. Quads are cheap, you dumb ass. To paraphrase an old saw about inept engineer-wannabes: If you only have a nickel, every greenback looks like a C-note. -- "Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible." A. Krooger, Aug. 2006 |
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Margaret von B wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... Margaret von B wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: And which "much more expensive" speaker system outclasses even the second best Lowther? Here is a classification of the best speakers ever made: 1. Quad first series ESL of 1957. The speaker designer's reference. Yeah, Planets sounds so grand with the Quads. I'm sorry you're poor, Maggie. Quads are cheap, you dumb ass. Well then, you will have no problem stacking as many as required to give you whatever thrill you require from your journeys in interplanetary space. So what is it you were whining about, then? Andre Jute Whose ass may be dumb, whose ass may be numb but who has no worries about creeping cellulities |
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The Krooborg and the Kompany It Keeps
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oups.com George M. Middius muddled: Its usual whining, puling, silly, stupid illiterate twaddle.... Now, Mr. Middius. Which is it that bothers you mo That Mr. Andrew Jute McCoy's fingers are so far up your fundament that you can taste them at the back of your throat? Or that you are only its second favorite sockpuppet? Wow, that's cutting to the chase! |
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On 31 Aug 2006 03:39:24 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:
. But hey, if your little hurt feelings drive you to allign yourself with my fartcatchers (2), enjoy the miasma. Sounds like you eat too much yoghurt, Andre. |
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Andre Jute wrote: Patrick Turner wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Margaret von B wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: And which "much more expensive" speaker system outclasses even the second best Lowther? Here is a classification of the best speakers ever made: 1. Quad first series ESL of 1957. The speaker designer's reference. Yeah, Planets sounds so grand with the Quads. I'm sorry you're poor, Maggie. Go along to your plutocratic chum Ludovic Mirabel and listen to his stacked Quads. You get 3dB extra every time you stack another set of Quads. Four stacked-63 per side are just about right for totally anti-social volumes in any room up to 44ft long; more look like showing off. Or a Bessel Array with 7 or 11 ESL, depending on how long your wall is and how much space you want to give to amps to drive a Bessel, makes a very impressive stereo wall of sound. Nobody could make dumb cracks about Uranus before such a wall of sound. With stacked ESL57, would you not get a line array driver effect, with sound being radiated in vertical wave fronts rather than tending to be spherical? The best way to stack two ESL57 is definitely vertically, top to top with the upper one upside down. Two further ESL57 added to the same stack would go in the same configuration and then that new unit would be placed back to back with the first unit at an angle, the open end of the angle against the side wall of the room, possibly at the halfway point of its length. A Bessel Array isn't a line array; the speakers are just placed in horizontal line. What in fact happens is that the signal is processed inside the multiple amplifiers required (or in a very complicated pre-amp which is theoretically possible but which gives me a mathmigraine just to contemplate) by attenuating and inverting it for only a few of the speakers in the set, so that the set creates a single image which has stereo elements. That is why Bessel Arrays of any size are normally built with point source drivers rather than multi-driver boxes. You have completely boom-flazzeled me. I am not familiar with a Bessel anything very much. I just visualised having 4 stacked speakers 1,2,3,4 on top of each other to make a column... This is suppoed to aid imaging I am told, but having never used a line array speaker or stacked quads, then I really don't know if claims about imaging are correct. Does a line array make a violin sound like its 3 metres high and played by a giant? You're talking about an intirely different sort of array to the Bessel Array I have in mind, which ia a row of speakers horisontally disposed and manipulated to produce a continuous single wide image with stereo elements. One would normally build it only with point source speakers or faux point source speakers like ESL63. Hmmmmmm.... Suspended line array dynamic speakers are increasingly popular due to sensitivity gains and variable directionality especially with PA systems coupled to PC controlled speaker directionality so the sound at the back of the audience can be adjusted to be about the same loudness and F response as at the front row. About twenty years ago I was given the Quad II that had been the design studio reference tube amps at Philips of Eindhoven. The retired Philips engineer who gave them to me had cheap PA speaks in foam balls hanging from the two stories-high peaked ceiling of his house, which was also his listening room after he broke out all the interior walls and and intermediate floors. Those PA speakers, under the control of a Yamaha DSP or a bank of gimmicked small, cheap tube amps, gave amazing quality. He told me then that such arrays of cheap speaks were the future. Bessel, incidentally, was a Philips engineer and Tony had met him. Foam balls with drivers are different to line arrays..... At a recent cultural festival gig in town last summer line array systems were used and were very much smaller but better than walls of much larger "normal" speakers each side of the stage, and I had little urge to use ear plugs necessary at such events. Says something awful about the organizers of such events, and the expectations of their clientele, if those aware that ears are fragile need to wear earplugs! Patrick Turner. BTW. Is that where you picked up your German lady friend? Well, I met her through the local newspaper; its always worked better than trying to date someone local via the dammed Internet, where about 300 local women lurk and wait to snare the Ideal Man who doesn't exist. But alas the German Lady romance didn't blossom and I am happily alone again. Meanwhile I am doing about 200Km a week on the bike and have lost 4 Kg in 6 weeks, and can ride up hills without granny gears. I'd rather go for a good ride than a good root. Patrick Turner. Andre Jute Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res -- family motto |
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Andre Jute wrote: Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res -- family motto I would expect so, given your behavior. Gentle in manner, resolute in thing. Neither being either applicable or accurate. Suaviter in modo, fortiter in Gentle in manner, resolute in execution. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. |
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" said:
Andre Jute wrote: Sauvitor in modo, fortiter in res -- family motto I would expect so, given your behavior. Gentle in manner, resolute in thing. Neither being either applicable or accurate. Confucius say: "Speak softly, but carry big sword". -- "Due knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl miss steaks." |
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Patrick Turner wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Patrick Turner wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Margaret von B wrote: "Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: And which "much more expensive" speaker system outclasses even the second best Lowther? Here is a classification of the best speakers ever made: 1. Quad first series ESL of 1957. The speaker designer's reference. Yeah, Planets sounds so grand with the Quads. I'm sorry you're poor, Maggie. Go along to your plutocratic chum Ludovic Mirabel and listen to his stacked Quads. You get 3dB extra every time you stack another set of Quads. Four stacked-63 per side are just about right for totally anti-social volumes in any room up to 44ft long; more look like showing off. Or a Bessel Array with 7 or 11 ESL, depending on how long your wall is and how much space you want to give to amps to drive a Bessel, makes a very impressive stereo wall of sound. Nobody could make dumb cracks about Uranus before such a wall of sound. With stacked ESL57, would you not get a line array driver effect, with sound being radiated in vertical wave fronts rather than tending to be spherical? The best way to stack two ESL57 is definitely vertically, top to top with the upper one upside down. Two further ESL57 added to the same stack would go in the same configuration and then that new unit would be placed back to back with the first unit at an angle, the open end of the angle against the side wall of the room, possibly at the halfway point of its length. A Bessel Array isn't a line array; the speakers are just placed in horizontal line. What in fact happens is that the signal is processed inside the multiple amplifiers required (or in a very complicated pre-amp which is theoretically possible but which gives me a mathmigraine just to contemplate) by attenuating and inverting it for only a few of the speakers in the set, so that the set creates a single image which has stereo elements. That is why Bessel Arrays of any size are normally built with point source drivers rather than multi-driver boxes. You have completely boom-flazzeled me. I am not familiar with a Bessel anything very much. That became clear as I read your post... Sorry, I should have started off by explaining why a Bessel Array is special. My famous article on Bessel from 1995 is here (recommended to be certain to get the tables reading right): http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/J...n%20BESSEL.htm and on RAT here http://groups.google.ie/group/rec.au...08a215 a009d6 Let's discuss Bessels in the Bessel thread. Andre Jute |
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Andre Jute wrote: wrote: Andre Jute wrote: wrote: Big snip of repetitons for bandwidth. Mr. Jute says: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: Mr. Jute, my poor jokes fell on stony ground. Mr. Jute answers: "Oh no, not at all, my dear fellow. It is I who must apologize most profusely that my jokes were so subtle that they caused you to embarrass yourself in public. Chris Hornbeck did recently warn both me and those of his fellow-Americans less sophisticated than him: " You write with a humor style somewhere drier than Brut, so shouldn't complain when Americans miss the tongue in cheek." -- Chris Hornbeck to Andre Jute - Anxious not to be classed with Mr. Hornbecks unsophisticated compatriots and to learn from those more worldly than myself I reread your posting several times:. I found the hilarious passages that must be the "subtle jokes" you're referring to: I asked you: "How was this classification arrived at?" You answered: "Experience. Taste. Judgement. Consultation. Over forty years in the concert halls". Now that I get it I, your "dear fellow" and devoted pupil in the humour doctoral class, I'm seized with helpless laughter. How could I have missed it? It's a multiple choice answer, see? If you're a qualified friendly, you clasp my hand warmly because I've just made you an insider. If you're a hostile, the manner of my answer patronises you without you quite knowing why or how, and you react angrily and make a fool of yourself, as you have, as you continue to do. Next, even subtler (and funnier) joke I asked naively thinking that my satirical intention will be obvious: "Was it checked with Mr. Krueger for the ABX approval? " You answered: "LOL. Since you're so keen to show how "scientific" you are, sure, I have etc No, that wasn't my answer. I put a linespace between "LOL" and the next paragraph to separate two ideas. It is another multiple choice presented, see? If you're a fool merely looking to score a quick point off me, you will rush over the linespace -- and have your tires shredded by the tintacks in the linespace following "LOL". Wit is as much what is said as what is not said. Empty space resonates, though God knows it is a disgraceful circumstance that I need to say something so basic on an *audiophile* conference, that I need to tell a Quad electrostat owner something that obvious. "LOL" refers to an *earned* right to sneer at Krueger and his pretentions. The linespace was a warning to ask if you didn't already know, a flashing neon sign to anyone sensitive to the language (as a wit must be). You blundered straight past it. "LOL. [[[Linespace reinserted to change gears from establishing my *earned* right to sneer at Krueger and his pretentions to sneering at Mirabel and his pretentions:]]] Since you're so keen to show how "scientific" you are, sure, I have ABXed ESL and horns behind a curtain. I don't understand why you didn't get this. I even put quotation marks around *scientific* to alert you in case you were dullwitted. For you to miss it makes you very dullwitted indeed. What do you want me to do, use emoticons, what your claque of dullards calls "smilies"? It is so boring to explain a joke but here we go. We're still talking about the single sentence Since you're so keen to show how "scientific" you are, sure, I have ABXed ESL and horns behind a curtain. The "you" in the active "you're" will be dismissed as everyday vernacular by a friendly but, in a position where I could have used "we" or "one" or even "I" and didn't, ties a hostile through the chain of association to Krueger's stupidities. The word *scientific* to a friendly is a smack at Krueger's pretentions, a delicious joke; I put it in quotes to help you decide which you are and you missed the boat. "ABX-ed" is another sneer; when I spent USD160m a year on market research I called this class of taste investigation "placebo tests"; it is well known that I think pretentiously "scientific" bow-wow words like "ABX" merely identify the user as a jumped-up techie presuming to judge cultural questions he doesn't even know exist. "Behind a curtain" is another sneer at the Krueger perversion of "scientific method", and also a double entendre about John Rawls's "Veil of Ignorance" which has earned me several "heh-hehs" from friends in Boston. The implication is that from behind the veil emerges merely more non-kulturny ignorance (cake homogenized sizewise -- never mind, Mr Mirabel, it is a joke for my Boston chums). Again, the sentence we have just parsed presents you with several choices of at least two answers each. Who you will be proven to be, and whether consequently I approve of you, depends on which interpretation you choose to react to. Your observed reactions tell me that you are a chequebook audiophile and a wannabe netwarrior, that I needn't waste too much time on you. Let's take one more sentence: The tests told me which of my subjects (generally practising musicians, some with worldclass reputations) have the taste to agree with me. "Worldclass reputations" should have told you this is an ironic statement. It is another point where I tell you I back my own *cultural* judgement regardless of the opinion of anyone else. Your original mail invited me to take potshots at Krueger and his ABX Krowd, and I did (this is another), and you were so thick you misinterpreted them all and took them for potshots at you. And *then* you tell us what a wit you are! Just as well you told us or we wouldn't have known. The vast majority choose either of the ESL (depending on specialty, for instance singers absolutely adore the ESL57), then the horn, then any point source speaker (including one I designed to be built for under 200 bucks a pair" Mr. Jute I see the light. "Subtle wit" can go no further. You're bang in there with the best of them. Eh? I share information with you that cost me a lot of time and money to gather -- and you want to practice your infantile sarcasm on me? Did you try writing for that screamingly funny citadel of subtle English wit the "Punch" mag.? "Try writing for"? Doesn't work like that. I suppose amateurs may "try" writing for a journal. But a professional writer is given a commission, paid in advance, guaranteed publication. Ludovic Mirabel Please don't hesitate to straighten me out if I'm still missing something. Thank you for the invitation but I don't see any gain from wasting more time explaining the obvious to you. Nothing like an example. Above are the examples you chose, fully elucidated. If you don't like the truth, tough. Andre Jute Charisma is the ability by just smiling quietly to induce apoplectic fits in the unworthy Now, that you documented for the at length how witty and wise you are I feel like apologising for ever having doubted it. As soon as I reemerge to take breath I'll reread your sermon several times and try to make head or tail of your occult message(s). Necessarily it will take time. In the meantime- keep on trucking Ludovic Mirabel Run, rabbit, run. Andre Jute Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ "wonderfully well written and reasoned information for the tube audio constructor" John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare "an unbelievably comprehensive web site containing vital gems of wisdom" Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review Mr. Jute contributes: Run, rabbit, run. Andre Jute Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ "wonderfully well written and reasoned information for the tube audio constructor" John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare "an unbelievably comprehensive web site containing vital gems of wisdom" Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review Pity that you want to ruin your very first near-funny reparteee by recopying your vanity -glass quotes from those famous authorities: a Perry and a Broskie. Rabbits are known for their radar sense of tottering sanity. Especially the rabbits with clinical, professional experience. When deathly-boring and incomprehensible scribble is coupled with pompous megalomania the rabbit runs before the hot-air ballon explodes. Regards Ludovic Mirabel |
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On 2 Sep 2006 10:54:50 -0700, "
wrote: . When deathly-boring and incomprehensible scribble is coupled with pompous megalomania the rabbit runs before the hot-air ballon explodes. Regards Ludovic Mirabel So. How are you two getting along these day anyway? |
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The Middiot Loses It All
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote in message Arnii, I apologize because my Krooglish decoder failed to map "liberate" onto a corresponding human word. Try using a standard English dictionary, Middiot. And this from the man who persistently writes "condensor" microphone:-) Iain |
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The Middiot Loses It All
Iain Churches wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote in message Arnii, I apologize because my Krooglish decoder failed to map "liberate" onto a corresponding human word. Try using a standard English dictionary, Middiot. And this from the man who persistently writes "condensor" microphone:-) What's wrong with that ? Graham |
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Krooglish vs. reality
duh-Poopie blithered: Arnii, I apologize because my Krooglish decoder failed to map "liberate" onto a corresponding human word. Try using a standard English dictionary, Middiot. And this from the man who persistently writes "condensor" microphone:-) What's wrong with that ? Poopie, did you wake up only to make a fool of yourself on this beautiful day of rest? http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=condensor You're excused. Go gargle with some battery acid. -- "Christians have to ... work to make the world as loving, just, and supportive as is possible." A. Krooger, Aug. 2006 |
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On the fat boy Poopie not paying attention in class The Middiot Loses It All
Poopie Stevenson, aka the dumb ass Eeyore, wrote: Iain Churches wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote in message Arnii, I apologize because my Krooglish decoder failed to map "liberate" onto a corresponding human word. Try using a standard English dictionary, Middiot. And this from the man who persistently writes "condensor" microphone:-) What's wrong with that ? Graham I thought you bragged you went to an expensive school and a decent university, Poopie. And don't argue that your jumped-up ghetto-polytechnic was merely incorporated in a decent college for the administrative convenience of socialist wreckers; however true that may be, you bandy about the name of a good college and therefore must live up to its standards. No one else that I know who went to UCL will ever make a slack dullard's spelling error like "condensor". There is no, repeat no, such thing as a condensor microphone. If you could distinguish between Latin and Greek roots, as you should be able to if you paid attention at school, you would know that. What a waste of money on "educating" a fat boy with an even more sluggish mind. And don't make the false argument that you're just following the Dunce's team leader, Arny Krueger. He obtained his "engineering" degree from somewhere called Oakland, and I doubt Latin and Greek were on the syllabus where he went to school or even decent instruction in English (which also covers the different roots), and anyway, Krueger doesn't brag about his antecedents like you do, so no better is expected of him (1). Of you, considering how you brag, much better than "condensor" is expected. Andre Jute Our legislators managed to criminalize fox-hunting and smoking; when they will get off their collective fat arse and criminalize negative feedback? It is clearly consumed only by undesirables like Poopie. PS This started off with George Middius objecting to a word Arny misused in a sentence: "It's amazing how much snot Middius can liberate in just one post." Difficult to "liberate" snot, Arny, because it flies out so easily. Point your nose downwards, use your thumb to block one nostril (by pressure against the outside, idiot, not by sticking it up your nose), blow hard through the other nostril, snot flies. It is considered rude to do it on people's carpet, if you know anyone with carpets. But in general, "liberating" snot must be considered a good thing, though "expelling" snot might be an apter word. The word you wanted for your pejorative sentence, dear Arny, was "generate" (rather than merely "create"; this is still, barely, an electronics discussion group), in the sense that anyone who creates more of any unhygienic, unwanted substance like snot is not a nice person. So, entirely free of charge, I advise you to rewrite your sentence: "It's amazing how much snot Middius can *generate* in just one post." (1) In fact, expecting better of Krueger is to patronise one of our underprivileged American cousins, a form of snobbery that would be deplorable were it not so completely understandable in the case of Krueger. |
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On the fat boy Poopie not paying attention in class The Middiot Loses It All
What is even more striking than your ignorance, Poopie, considering
your claims to be an audio designer, is that you're so universally unpopular that no one has helped you out with the correct spelling. Andre Jute Andre Jute wrote: Poopie Stevenson, aka the dumb ass Eeyore, wrote: Iain Churches wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote in message Arnii, I apologize because my Krooglish decoder failed to map "liberate" onto a corresponding human word. Try using a standard English dictionary, Middiot. And this from the man who persistently writes "condensor" microphone:-) What's wrong with that ? Graham I thought you bragged you went to an expensive school and a decent university, Poopie. And don't argue that your jumped-up ghetto-polytechnic was merely incorporated in a decent college for the administrative convenience of socialist wreckers; however true that may be, you bandy about the name of a good college and therefore must live up to its standards. No one else that I know who went to UCL will ever make a slack dullard's spelling error like "condensor". There is no, repeat no, such thing as a condensor microphone. If you could distinguish between Latin and Greek roots, as you should be able to if you paid attention at school, you would know that. What a waste of money on "educating" a fat boy with an even more sluggish mind. And don't make the false argument that you're just following the Dunce's team leader, Arny Krueger. He obtained his "engineering" degree from somewhere called Oakland, and I doubt Latin and Greek were on the syllabus where he went to school or even decent instruction in English (which also covers the different roots), and anyway, Krueger doesn't brag about his antecedents like you do, so no better is expected of him (1). Of you, considering how you brag, much better than "condensor" is expected. Andre Jute Our legislators managed to criminalize fox-hunting and smoking; when they will get off their collective fat arse and criminalize negative feedback? It is clearly consumed only by undesirables like Poopie. PS This started off with George Middius objecting to a word Arny misused in a sentence: "It's amazing how much snot Middius can liberate in just one post." Difficult to "liberate" snot, Arny, because it flies out so easily. Point your nose downwards, use your thumb to block one nostril (by pressure against the outside, idiot, not by sticking it up your nose), blow hard through the other nostril, snot flies. It is considered rude to do it on people's carpet, if you know anyone with carpets. But in general, "liberating" snot must be considered a good thing, though "expelling" snot might be an apter word. The word you wanted for your pejorative sentence, dear Arny, was "generate" (rather than merely "create"; this is still, barely, an electronics discussion group), in the sense that anyone who creates more of any unhygienic, unwanted substance like snot is not a nice person. So, entirely free of charge, I advise you to rewrite your sentence: "It's amazing how much snot Middius can *generate* in just one post." (1) In fact, expecting better of Krueger is to patronise one of our underprivileged American cousins, a form of snobbery that would be deplorable were it not so completely understandable in the case of Krueger. |
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Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote:
incomprehensible scribble It's real simple, Mirabel. I'll paint it for you by numbers: 1. You maliciously tried to score some cheap points off me. 2. For that impertincence I clipped your ear. 3. You have no answer, so you run away whining. I can only hope you run faster than you rationalize excuses for running away. Flick. (If you don't get the reference, see my concurrent post on snot to Arny Krueger, esq.) Unsigned out of contempt. Stop bleating. Please, please, please give me the Silence of the Lambs. wrote: Andre Jute wrote: wrote: Andre Jute wrote: wrote: Big snip of repetitons for bandwidth. Mr. Jute says: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: Mr. Jute, my poor jokes fell on stony ground. Mr. Jute answers: "Oh no, not at all, my dear fellow. It is I who must apologize most profusely that my jokes were so subtle that they caused you to embarrass yourself in public. Chris Hornbeck did recently warn both me and those of his fellow-Americans less sophisticated than him: " You write with a humor style somewhere drier than Brut, so shouldn't complain when Americans miss the tongue in cheek." -- Chris Hornbeck to Andre Jute - Anxious not to be classed with Mr. Hornbecks unsophisticated compatriots and to learn from those more worldly than myself I reread your posting several times:. I found the hilarious passages that must be the "subtle jokes" you're referring to: I asked you: "How was this classification arrived at?" You answered: "Experience. Taste. Judgement. Consultation. Over forty years in the concert halls". Now that I get it I, your "dear fellow" and devoted pupil in the humour doctoral class, I'm seized with helpless laughter. How could I have missed it? It's a multiple choice answer, see? If you're a qualified friendly, you clasp my hand warmly because I've just made you an insider. If you're a hostile, the manner of my answer patronises you without you quite knowing why or how, and you react angrily and make a fool of yourself, as you have, as you continue to do. Next, even subtler (and funnier) joke I asked naively thinking that my satirical intention will be obvious: "Was it checked with Mr. Krueger for the ABX approval? " You answered: "LOL. Since you're so keen to show how "scientific" you are, sure, I have etc No, that wasn't my answer. I put a linespace between "LOL" and the next paragraph to separate two ideas. It is another multiple choice presented, see? If you're a fool merely looking to score a quick point off me, you will rush over the linespace -- and have your tires shredded by the tintacks in the linespace following "LOL". Wit is as much what is said as what is not said. Empty space resonates, though God knows it is a disgraceful circumstance that I need to say something so basic on an *audiophile* conference, that I need to tell a Quad electrostat owner something that obvious. "LOL" refers to an *earned* right to sneer at Krueger and his pretentions. The linespace was a warning to ask if you didn't already know, a flashing neon sign to anyone sensitive to the language (as a wit must be). You blundered straight past it. "LOL. [[[Linespace reinserted to change gears from establishing my *earned* right to sneer at Krueger and his pretentions to sneering at Mirabel and his pretentions:]]] Since you're so keen to show how "scientific" you are, sure, I have ABXed ESL and horns behind a curtain. I don't understand why you didn't get this. I even put quotation marks around *scientific* to alert you in case you were dullwitted. For you to miss it makes you very dullwitted indeed. What do you want me to do, use emoticons, what your claque of dullards calls "smilies"? It is so boring to explain a joke but here we go. We're still talking about the single sentence Since you're so keen to show how "scientific" you are, sure, I have ABXed ESL and horns behind a curtain. The "you" in the active "you're" will be dismissed as everyday vernacular by a friendly but, in a position where I could have used "we" or "one" or even "I" and didn't, ties a hostile through the chain of association to Krueger's stupidities. The word *scientific* to a friendly is a smack at Krueger's pretentions, a delicious joke; I put it in quotes to help you decide which you are and you missed the boat. "ABX-ed" is another sneer; when I spent USD160m a year on market research I called this class of taste investigation "placebo tests"; it is well known that I think pretentiously "scientific" bow-wow words like "ABX" merely identify the user as a jumped-up techie presuming to judge cultural questions he doesn't even know exist. "Behind a curtain" is another sneer at the Krueger perversion of "scientific method", and also a double entendre about John Rawls's "Veil of Ignorance" which has earned me several "heh-hehs" from friends in Boston. The implication is that from behind the veil emerges merely more non-kulturny ignorance (cake homogenized sizewise -- never mind, Mr Mirabel, it is a joke for my Boston chums). Again, the sentence we have just parsed presents you with several choices of at least two answers each. Who you will be proven to be, and whether consequently I approve of you, depends on which interpretation you choose to react to. Your observed reactions tell me that you are a chequebook audiophile and a wannabe netwarrior, that I needn't waste too much time on you. Let's take one more sentence: The tests told me which of my subjects (generally practising musicians, some with worldclass reputations) have the taste to agree with me. "Worldclass reputations" should have told you this is an ironic statement. It is another point where I tell you I back my own *cultural* judgement regardless of the opinion of anyone else. Your original mail invited me to take potshots at Krueger and his ABX Krowd, and I did (this is another), and you were so thick you misinterpreted them all and took them for potshots at you. And *then* you tell us what a wit you are! Just as well you told us or we wouldn't have known. The vast majority choose either of the ESL (depending on specialty, for instance singers absolutely adore the ESL57), then the horn, then any point source speaker (including one I designed to be built for under 200 bucks a pair" Mr. Jute I see the light. "Subtle wit" can go no further. You're bang in there with the best of them. Eh? I share information with you that cost me a lot of time and money to gather -- and you want to practice your infantile sarcasm on me? Did you try writing for that screamingly funny citadel of subtle English wit the "Punch" mag.? "Try writing for"? Doesn't work like that. I suppose amateurs may "try" writing for a journal. But a professional writer is given a commission, paid in advance, guaranteed publication. Ludovic Mirabel Please don't hesitate to straighten me out if I'm still missing something. Thank you for the invitation but I don't see any gain from wasting more time explaining the obvious to you. Nothing like an example. Above are the examples you chose, fully elucidated. If you don't like the truth, tough. Andre Jute Charisma is the ability by just smiling quietly to induce apoplectic fits in the unworthy Now, that you documented for the at length how witty and wise you are I feel like apologising for ever having doubted it. As soon as I reemerge to take breath I'll reread your sermon several times and try to make head or tail of your occult message(s). Necessarily it will take time. In the meantime- keep on trucking Ludovic Mirabel Run, rabbit, run. Andre Jute Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ "wonderfully well written and reasoned information for the tube audio constructor" John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare "an unbelievably comprehensive web site containing vital gems of wisdom" Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review Mr. Jute contributes: Run, rabbit, run. Andre Jute Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/ "wonderfully well written and reasoned information for the tube audio constructor" John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare "an unbelievably comprehensive web site containing vital gems of wisdom" Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review Pity that you want to ruin your very first near-funny reparteee by recopying your vanity -glass quotes from those famous authorities: a Perry and a Broskie. Rabbits are known for their radar sense of tottering sanity. Especially the rabbits with clinical, professional experience. When deathly-boring and incomprehensible scribble is coupled with pompous megalomania the rabbit runs before the hot-air ballon explodes. Regards Ludovic Mirabel |
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paul packer wrote: On 2 Sep 2006 10:54:50 -0700, " wrote: . When deathly-boring and incomprehensible scribble is coupled with pompous megalomania the rabbit runs before the hot-air ballon explodes. Regards Ludovic Mirabel So. How are you two getting along these day anyway? Thanks for your concern. The prospect of delving again into Jute trying to be clever-clever is too daunting to continue. I concede that he can be fun to read at times . But challenge to his odd hi-fi magalomania makes nearly incoherent. Ludovic M |
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On 3 Sep 2006 09:45:03 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:
Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: incomprehensible scribble It's real simple, Mirabel. I'll paint it for you by numbers: 1. You maliciously tried to score some cheap points off me. I think this is untrue, Andre. Ludo isn't malicious and he doesn't try to score cheap points. 2. For that impertincence I clipped your ear. I don't know what "impertincence" is but I'm pretty sure you didn't clip Ludo's ear. I would have heard it. 3. You have no answer, so you run away whining. I didn't see Ludo run away whining. I think all that yoghurt is giving you hallucinations. I can only hope you run faster than you rationalize excuses for running away. Eh? Flick. (If you don't get the reference, see my concurrent post on snot to Arny Krueger, esq.) I saw it and I was ill in the corner. Unsigned out of contempt. Oh no, not contempt. That's far too harsh a punishment. Stop bleating. Please, please, please give me the Silence of the Lambs. You want Ludo to eat your face? |
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paul packer wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 09:45:03 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: incomprehensible scribble It's real simple, Mirabel. I'll paint it for you by numbers: 1. You maliciously tried to score some cheap points off me. I think this is untrue, Andre. Ludo isn't malicious and he doesn't try to score cheap points. 2. For that impertincence I clipped your ear. I don't know what "impertincence" is but I'm pretty sure you didn't clip Ludo's ear. I would have heard it. 3. You have no answer, so you run away whining. I didn't see Ludo run away whining. I think all that yoghurt is giving you hallucinations. I can only hope you run faster than you rationalize excuses for running away. Eh? Flick. (If you don't get the reference, see my concurrent post on snot to Arny Krueger, esq.) I saw it and I was ill in the corner. Unsigned out of contempt. Oh no, not contempt. That's far too harsh a punishment. Stop bleating. Please, please, please give me the Silence of the Lambs. You want Ludo to eat your face? Thank you Paul. He wrote a page and a half to prove that he was witty. I thought that all he managed to do was to become incoherent.. Put it to my lack of Jute sense of humour. He writes anothe page and a half with more of the evidence according to Jute. I told him that he can be fun when his vanity is not at stake. But he won't take anything but worship. And I'm the last person to ask to join a chapel. And going toe to toe, line by line analysing Jute oeuvre is the last thing I feel like doing. So I concede. Jute wins again Ludovic Mirabel. |
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On 3 Sep 2006 19:47:48 -0700, "
wrote: But he won't take anything but worship. Grain of truth alert! So I concede. Jute wins again Andre will always win. He's more determined than anyone else. |
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Call the animal control officer! On the fat boy Poopie not paying attention in class The Middiot Loses It All
"Andre Jute" wrote in message ups.com... snip reams of hysterical yapping and scent-marking Hey RATS, Full moon coming up on Thursday September 7. Easy to tell isn't it? Hyper "I made Jutey-Fruity switch to attack-dog mode. Terrifying, like being nibbled to death by a duck." |
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paul packer wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 09:45:03 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: incomprehensible scribble ........ Flick. (If you don't get the reference, see my concurrent post on snot to Arny Krueger, esq.) I saw it and I was ill in the corner. See what you get for an overactive imagination? I hope it wasn't on a carpet. -- AJ |
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On 4 Sep 2006 04:15:35 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:
paul packer wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 09:45:03 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: incomprehensible scribble ....... Flick. (If you don't get the reference, see my concurrent post on snot to Arny Krueger, esq.) I saw it and I was ill in the corner. See what you get for an overactive imagination? I hope it wasn't on a carpet. -- AJ No imagination, Andre. It was due entirely to the power of your poetic description. I concede, through gritted teeth and with burning envy---you ARE a great writer. |
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"paul packer" wrote in message ... On 4 Sep 2006 04:15:35 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote: paul packer wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 09:45:03 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: incomprehensible scribble ....... Flick. (If you don't get the reference, see my concurrent post on snot to Arny Krueger, esq.) I saw it and I was ill in the corner. See what you get for an overactive imagination? I hope it wasn't on a carpet. -- AJ No imagination, Andre. It was due entirely to the power of your poetic description. I concede, through gritted teeth and with burning envy---you ARE a great writer. Why don't you suck his cock while your at it.. Your bloody pathetic Packer |
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On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:36:15 +1000, "bassett"
wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message ... On 4 Sep 2006 04:15:35 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote: paul packer wrote: On 3 Sep 2006 09:45:03 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote: Ludovic Mirabel ) wrote: incomprehensible scribble ....... Flick. (If you don't get the reference, see my concurrent post on snot to Arny Krueger, esq.) I saw it and I was ill in the corner. See what you get for an overactive imagination? I hope it wasn't on a carpet. -- AJ No imagination, Andre. It was due entirely to the power of your poetic description. I concede, through gritted teeth and with burning envy---you ARE a great writer. Why don't you suck his cock while your at it.. Your bloody pathetic Packer I see you're as good at sniffing out irony as Arnie is, bassett. I'm sure Andre is much better at it. Why don't you ask him what I really meant. |
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