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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem ...yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. And here's another one: http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem (Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.) Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill." Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? -- JP Morris - aka DOUG the Eagle (Dragon) -=UDIC=- Anti-walkthroughs for Deus Ex, Thief and Ultima http://www.it-he.org Reign of the Just - An Ultima clone http://rotj.it-he.org The DMFA radio series project http://dmfa.it-he.org d+++ e+ N+ T++ Om U1234!56!7'!S'!8!9!KAW u++ uC+++ uF+++ uG---- uLB---- uA--- nC+ nR---- nH+++ nP++ nI nPT nS nT wM- wC- y a(YEAR - 1976) |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
J. P. Morris wrote: Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem ..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. And here's another one: http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem (Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.) Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill." Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? -- Wow, I'll have to finish up fixing up my Viking 88 and get it up there on Ebay... its even got fire bottles.. Mark |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article
, "J. P. Morris" wrote: ..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!? The seller made out like a bandit, regardless. Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? I hope so! I've got an Otari 5050 just waiting for a new home, and I could use an extra $8K! Allen -- Allen Corneau Mastering Engineer Essential Sound Mastering www.esmastering.com |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
J. P. Morris wrote: Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. ..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. Must be either a Japanese collector or someone's pulling our leg. There's no practical or technical reason for this to be worth any more than $50. Notice that the auction ended early to sell to the current high bidder. Even the first bid of $250 was outrageous. I'll take a paltry $2500 for a TEAC 6100 that I have in a home made portable case, and I'll even throw in the original teak side panels, just in case someone was watching this auction and dropped out the second day. |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"Allen Corneau" wrote in message ... On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article , "J. P. Morris" wrote: ..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!? How would you explain this? http://tinyurl.com/f222f http://tinyurl.com/hclku Predrag |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message
... "Allen Corneau" wrote in message ... On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article , "J. P. Morris" wrote: ..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!? How would you explain this? http://tinyurl.com/f222f http://tinyurl.com/hclku The first one's not unreasonable; you're getting an M7 capsule, reasonably new, for about 300 US$. The second one is a bit over the line. Peace, Paul |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"J. P. Morris" wrote in message
... Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem ..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. And here's another one: http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem (Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.) Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill." Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? The only thing I can figure is that there are collectors out there who want a complete set of Aiwa recorders, for reasons known but to themselves, and this is the one that shows up the least often, so the collectors go berserk when it appears. Like my friend whose best pal had the only Muddy Waters record he didn't own. Real collectors are NUTS. Peace, Paul |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"Paul Stamler" wrote in message ... "Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message ... "Allen Corneau" wrote in message ... On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article , "J. P. Morris" wrote: ..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!? How would you explain this? http://tinyurl.com/f222f http://tinyurl.com/hclku The first one's not unreasonable; you're getting an M7 capsule, reasonably new, for about 300 US$. The second one is a bit over the line. The same seller, the same item, description, pictures, everything, parallel auctions, ending within 15 minutes from each other, Funny. Predrag |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
J. P. Morris wrote:
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem ..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. It's being used as part of a money-laundering scheme. I bet a dollar. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL-TO-REEL-MDL-TP-1011_W0QQitem... Interesting to note that all the higher bidders are first-timers. Maybe the machine's filled with bags of heroin ("higher" bidders indeed!). Either way, there must be an explanation for the price other than the machine's actual value. Ted Spencer, NYC www.tedspencerrecording.com |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
wrote ...
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL-TO-REEL-MDL-TP-1011_W0QQitem... Interesting to note that all the higher bidders are first-timers. If I were going to set up some "shill" accounts, I could "buy" thousands of items from myself worth millions of dollars I never had. This is just insane. |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
P.T. Barnum is alive and well....
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message
... The first one's not unreasonable; you're getting an M7 capsule, reasonably new, for about 300 US$. The second one is a bit over the line. The same seller, the same item, description, pictures, everything, parallel auctions, ending within 15 minutes from each other, Funny. Some high-roller wanted one, so they bid it up. The high-roller didn't want two, so didn't bid on the other auction. Peace, Paul |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:48:31 +0000, J. P. Morris wrote:
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem ..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. Wow!! With all of the Tascam/Teac/Peavey/A.R.T and Alesis *collectable* gear I have laying around, I am going to be a millionaire in a couple of weeks!!! Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? Offshore/possibly onshore money laundering mill. That's my guess. flatfish+++ P.S. For those of you who missed the sarcasm, in this case *collectable* means junk.... Not that most of it isn't useful, but.......................................... |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
'Cause the guy who bought it is crazy! ;-)
"J. P. Morris" wrote in message ... Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...0QQitemZ970019 9726QQcategoryZ15000QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. And here's another one: http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...PE_W0QQitemZ97 03183995QQcategoryZ15000QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem (Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.) Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill." Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? -- JP Morris - aka DOUG the Eagle (Dragon) -=UDIC=- Anti-walkthroughs for Deus Ex, Thief and Ultima http://www.it-he.org Reign of the Just - An Ultima clone http://rotj.it-he.org The DMFA radio series project http://dmfa.it-he.org d+++ e+ N+ T++ Om U1234!56!7'!S'!8!9!KAW u++ uC+++ uF+++ uG---- uLB---- uA--- nC+ nR---- nH+++ nP++ nI nPT nS nT wM- wC- y a(YEAR - 1976) |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"Segensreich Maschinerich" wrote in message ... Predrag Trpkov wrote in article : How would you explain this? http://tinyurl.com/f222f http://tinyurl.com/hclku The same seller, the same item, description, pictures, everything, parallel auctions, ending within 15 minutes from each other, Funny. I don't understand what you mean. Someone had a matched pair of capsules, and sold them both, placing each in a separate auction. What is so funny about that? Two items that are as close to being identical as it gets. Sold at the same time, under identical conditions. One sold for 266 Euro, the other for 671,66 Euro. That's what I thought was funny, but it's obviously just me. Forget it. Predrag |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message
... Two items that are as close to being identical as it gets. Sold at the same time, under identical conditions. One sold for 266 Euro, the other for 671,66 Euro. That's what I thought was funny, but it's obviously just me. Forget it. e-bay - where "winning" an auction means you were willing to pay more than anybody else. |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
i think ebay's on it's way down unless it can control this ****e. i
bought a rauland pre a couple of weeks ago and then saw the exact same item (it had a pink cd on top of it) for sale from china. it was obviously a shill but still scary. |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
"greggery peccary" wrote in message oups.com... i think ebay's on it's way down unless it can control this ****e. i bought a rauland pre a couple of weeks ago and then saw the exact same item (it had a pink cd on top of it) for sale from china. it was obviously a shill but still scary. There has been a flood of obviously fraudulant eBay auctions from China lately. Neumann and other vintage mics, Soundcraft Delta consoles, RADAR... basically anything that's sought-after. The item description and pictures invariably copied from recent legit auctions, sellers with zero feedback, low starting prices with no reserve... Predrag |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
The secret of business success:
Every morning an idiot wakes up. You just have to find him.... br GS J. P. Morris schrieb: Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus. As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track. It doesn't even appear to be valve-based: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem ..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good history. And here's another one: http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem (Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.) Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill." Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
GS wrote: The secret of business success: Every morning an idiot wakes up. You just have to find him.... I don't think good business is " find the idiot" good business is not being the idiot. In business , I ask my self when buying buildings or used gear " am I the biggest idiot," if I feel even close that I may be, I pass on the gear or the building. Still. . I'm about to clean up some old gear.. . bad business can be fun $$ Ed Bridge www.bridgekaldromusic.com |
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In article ,
wrote: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US I don't think it is. You will notice there are no bids. Consumer quarter-track machines are a dime a dozen and not really useful for anything much. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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In article b50c84ac-162c-4823-b587-
, says... i could build it from $50 in parts. I bet the parts cost even less 12 years ago! |
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On 25/05/2018 04:09, wrote:
On Friday, March 24, 2006 at 2:48:31 PM UTC-7, J. P. Morris wrote: Note the date of the post being replied to.... Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill." Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable in some mysterious way? no this particular tape machine was and is used by ritchie blackmore of deep purple and rainbow fame. it was used as a preamp to provide fuzz tone plus as a tape echo system. any guitar player that desires that to like me for instance would like to own one of these rare beasties. i dont have nor would i pay that kind of cash especially when other r2r decks can be used for tape echo and if i wanted that preamp i could build it from $50 in parts. If it were the actual machine used by Ritchie Blackmore, it might be worth the price quoted to a collector or museum. It would be worth even more for the pair if the original, modified amp and speaker he used was available to go with it. Machines of that type are now available for a hundred dollars or less. This thread gives some ideas on how to emulate the tone. https://www.diystompboxes.com/smffor...topic=104756.0 It wouldn't be hard, though not trivial, to write a plugin to emulate the physics of the preamp and other circuitry in a DAW. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
On 5/25/2018 5:12 PM, John Williamson wrote:
Note the date of the post being replied to.... I can't imagine that even in 2006 a tape deck like that would sell for thousands of dollars. By 2006 people couldn't get rid of reel-to-reel tape decks fast enough. The wonderful thing about eBay is that there's always someone who will pay a crazy price for something that that they don't know of any other place to look for it. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
On 25/05/2018 22:23, Mike Rivers wrote:
The wonderful thing about eBay is that there's always someone who will pay a crazy price for something that that they don't know of any other place to look for it. Collectors are weird. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message news On 5/25/2018 5:12 PM, John Williamson wrote: Note the date of the post being replied to.... I can't imagine that even in 2006 a tape deck like that would sell for thousands of dollars. By 2006 people couldn't get rid of reel-to-reel tape decks fast enough. The wonderful thing about eBay is that there's always someone who will pay a crazy price for something that that they don't know of any other place to look for it. Yep, Took a non working item that I was going to throw in the trash and put it up on eBay. Sold for $550. Poly --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?
On 26/05/2018 9:23 AM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 5/25/2018 5:12 PM, John Williamson wrote: Note the date of the post being replied to.... I can't imagine that even in 2006 a tape deck like that would sell for thousands of dollars. By 2006 people couldn't get rid of reel-to-reel tape decks fast enough. The wonderful thing about eBay is that there's always someone who will pay a crazy price for something that that they don't know of any other place to look for it. Analogue is SOOO great - adds thousands to the price. Especially if has some 'history' apparently. geoff |
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