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I'm using Radar as a front end to ProTools. So far everything is working
fine, but I wnat to be sure I'm using the Radar clock.

I have 2 ADAT bridges. I have PrTools set to opticla sync and optical in.
I have Radar set to internal clock. I have no digital clicks and pops, but
I don't have the BNC cable connected. I don't hear a difference when I
connect the Radar sync out to the ADAT Bridge slave clock in. I didn't
expect to, so I didn't listen carefully at 2am when I got everything
running.

Do I need to connect the BNC out of the Radar to the slave clock in on the
ADAT Bridge or is the Radar sending the clock info over the light pipe? If
so is that the best way to use the Radar clock? As far as I can tell, it's
the only way.



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Rail Jon Rogut
 
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Record an A 440 tone into Pro Tools.

Change the sample rate on the RADAR and play back Pro Tools and see if the
pitch changes when the sample rate of the RADAR changes.. if it does, then
you're clocking off the RADAR.. otherwise you're not.

Rail
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Recording Engineer/Software Developer
Rail Jon Rogut Software
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"Mike Caffrey" wrote in message
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I'm using Radar as a front end to ProTools. So far everything is working
fine, but I wnat to be sure I'm using the Radar clock.

I have 2 ADAT bridges. I have PrTools set to opticla sync and optical in.
I have Radar set to internal clock. I have no digital clicks and pops, but
I don't have the BNC cable connected. I don't hear a difference when I
connect the Radar sync out to the ADAT Bridge slave clock in. I didn't
expect to, so I didn't listen carefully at 2am when I got everything
running.

Do I need to connect the BNC out of the Radar to the slave clock in on the
ADAT Bridge or is the Radar sending the clock info over the light pipe? If
so is that the best way to use the Radar clock? As far as I can tell, it's
the only way.



www.monsterisland.com



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Rail Jon Rogut
 
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Record an A 440 tone into Pro Tools.

Change the sample rate on the RADAR and play back Pro Tools and see if the
pitch changes when the sample rate of the RADAR changes.. if it does, then
you're clocking off the RADAR.. otherwise you're not.

Rail
--
Recording Engineer/Software Developer
Rail Jon Rogut Software
http://home.earthlink.net/~railro


"Mike Caffrey" wrote in message
...

I'm using Radar as a front end to ProTools. So far everything is working
fine, but I wnat to be sure I'm using the Radar clock.

I have 2 ADAT bridges. I have PrTools set to opticla sync and optical in.
I have Radar set to internal clock. I have no digital clicks and pops, but
I don't have the BNC cable connected. I don't hear a difference when I
connect the Radar sync out to the ADAT Bridge slave clock in. I didn't
expect to, so I didn't listen carefully at 2am when I got everything
running.

Do I need to connect the BNC out of the Radar to the slave clock in on the
ADAT Bridge or is the Radar sending the clock info over the light pipe? If
so is that the best way to use the Radar clock? As far as I can tell, it's
the only way.



www.monsterisland.com



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I think you have it right, sans bnc. The bnc input on the adat bridge only
accepts super clock (a digi 256 clock - I think). I do believe the light
pipe sync is the only way with your set up without adding aditional gear and
it should work fine. The only other setting I'd make is to change the
hardware setting in PTs so that input 1 and 2 is set to optical rather than
spdif or aes (I think there is setting for that).



Mike Caffrey wrote in message
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I'm using Radar as a front end to ProTools. So far everything is working
fine, but I wnat to be sure I'm using the Radar clock.

I have 2 ADAT bridges. I have PrTools set to opticla sync and optical in.
I have Radar set to internal clock. I have no digital clicks and pops, but
I don't have the BNC cable connected. I don't hear a difference when I
connect the Radar sync out to the ADAT Bridge slave clock in. I didn't
expect to, so I didn't listen carefully at 2am when I got everything
running.

Do I need to connect the BNC out of the Radar to the slave clock in on the
ADAT Bridge or is the Radar sending the clock info over the light pipe? If
so is that the best way to use the Radar clock? As far as I can tell, it's
the only way.



www.monsterisland.com



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I think you have it right, sans bnc. The bnc input on the adat bridge only
accepts super clock (a digi 256 clock - I think). I do believe the light
pipe sync is the only way with your set up without adding aditional gear and
it should work fine. The only other setting I'd make is to change the
hardware setting in PTs so that input 1 and 2 is set to optical rather than
spdif or aes (I think there is setting for that).



Mike Caffrey wrote in message
...

I'm using Radar as a front end to ProTools. So far everything is working
fine, but I wnat to be sure I'm using the Radar clock.

I have 2 ADAT bridges. I have PrTools set to opticla sync and optical in.
I have Radar set to internal clock. I have no digital clicks and pops, but
I don't have the BNC cable connected. I don't hear a difference when I
connect the Radar sync out to the ADAT Bridge slave clock in. I didn't
expect to, so I didn't listen carefully at 2am when I got everything
running.

Do I need to connect the BNC out of the Radar to the slave clock in on the
ADAT Bridge or is the Radar sending the clock info over the light pipe? If
so is that the best way to use the Radar clock? As far as I can tell, it's
the only way.



www.monsterisland.com





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In article . net, "Rail
Jon Rogut" wrote:

Record an A 440 tone into Pro Tools.

Change the sample rate on the RADAR and play back Pro Tools and see if the
pitch changes when the sample rate of the RADAR changes.. if it does, then
you're clocking off the RADAR.. otherwise you're not.

Rail


Good idea. Thanks.



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Mike Caffrey
 
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In article . net, "Your
Ad Here!" wrote:

I think you have it right, sans bnc. The bnc input on the adat bridge only
accepts super clock (a digi 256 clock - I think). I do believe the light
pipe sync is the only way with your set up without adding aditional gear and
it should work fine. The only other setting I'd make is to change the
hardware setting in PTs so that input 1 and 2 is set to optical rather than
spdif or aes (I think there is setting for that).


Yep. Got that.

I'm not going to add the extra hardware right now, but if I wanted to
later, what would I need?



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Greg Thompson
 
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Mike.. do you have a USD connected to your system? You could take the
RADAR wordclock output to the USD wordclock input and that would
generate clock for the rest of the system.

Greg
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Mike Caffrey
 
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In article
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Thompson wrote:

Mike.. do you have a USD connected to your system? You could take the
RADAR wordclock output to the USD wordclock input and that would
generate clock for the rest of the system.

Greg


I'll try that. Everything worked fine last night, but nothing worked
tonight. Luckily it was an all analog session.

Someone told me that the AES clock is better than the lightpipe clock. Is
that true? I guess they mean quality of the clock information transfer.

Currently I have 16 channels of ADAT bridge on the first card and 8 more
ADAT bridge channels and the 888 on the second. In this set up I have
inputs one and two and "sync" in ProTools both set to optical. That worked
last night.

I could also make the 888 be the first device which removies the option of
1 and 2 being optical in, but the don't have to be. In that case I send
the Radar AES out to ProTools AES in and set the ins and clock to
"digital". As far as I can tell, both set ups should work. Would this
second one prvide better clocking or shoul I try the USD method.

That wouls be Radar sync out to USD word in and then superclock or
slaveclock out to all of the other Digi devices?




(Btw, Greg the converters are Nyquist and the other new gear I had
mentioned is all up and running. I haven't used the Avalons in so long I
leave them off now. Almost no open time, but if you're looking.)



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