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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
Greg Singh (aka- Trotsky) is peddling his Madisound designed speakers
on Audiogon. The little sleaze is using Audiogon feedback left by buyers of other stuff he has sold on Audiogon to give the impression that someone has actually purchased these overpriced, overhyped, under-engineered cheeseboxes. He also claims they are worth $1600!!!! Of course, he doesn't say that it costs him much less than $300 (parts and "labor") to make these things. Nor does he mention the extensive, ten-day R&D period. I suggest everyone do a Google search on "Jupiter Audio" to get the real truth behind this sleazy operation! |
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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
"Bob Morein" wrote in message ws.com... On 10/16/03 2:18 AM, in article , "tor b" wrote: He also claims they are worth $1600!!!! Of course, he doesn't say that it costs him much less than $300 (parts and "labor") to make these things. Nor does he mention the extensive, ten-day R&D period. In the "high end" world, that would make this testing program several times better than what many more expensive speakers undergo. And until I can find a bluebook price for them, I guess they're worth whatever he wants for them. The above post is in fact, a forgery by Brian L. McCarty. I've just detonated a huge load of dynamite under his infamous "WorldJAZZ" scam -- see my website, http://www.worldjazz.tv, and McCarty's website, http://www.worldjazz.com, to see how a scammer works and lives. Brian, any investors will doubtless call me first, and I'll give them the straight poop. Your scam is DOOOOMMMMMEDDDDD. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHA! The above is, of course, a forgery by Brian L. McCarty, r.a.m.'s great pestilence and disease. Brian is secretary of the Far North Queensland Film and Television Association (FNQFTA) in Cairns, Queensland, Australia. Brian L. McCarty resides in a condo at 65 Vasey Esplanade, Trinty Beach, Cairns, Queensland, Australia. It is with great pleasure that I announce that Brian L. McCarty's "Coral Seas" studio project, an obvious scam, is now officially dead. The remains may be viewed at http://www.coralseastudios.com . Brian, we are celebrating your 49th birthday with news that the Coral Seas project has gone belly-up. We watch with great anticipation for the collapse of your WorldJAZZ Scam. It's obvious that WorldJAZZ (http://www.worldjazz.com) is a nonperforming non-asset, simply an invitation for the gullible to lose money. Coral Sea Studios, on the other hand, which McCarty (author of the above post) also maintains, has already sunk beneath the waves. The project is officially dead. Brian, why do you keep around a zombie website? Surely no business partners for Brian L. McCarty! "WorldJAZZ JAZZ MUSIC TELEVISION S NATIONAL CABLE COMING SOON! SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT DAILY JAZZ PROGRAMMING TO BE SUPPLIED BY WORLDJAZZ TO MOSCOW CENTRAL TV BEGINNING DECEMBER 2004" Whoops! The above appears to be a pack of lies from the "WorldJAZZ" website, http://www.worldjazz.com. Moscow Central TV is being informed about this travesty. The website goes on to say, "WorldJAZZ has been named OFFICIAL CO-SPONSOR of the 2004 Jersey Jazz Bass Festival SEPTEMBER 22-25 2004 LIVE BROADCAST PLANNED" But there is no "Jersey Jazz Bass Festival" ! It's a complete fiction! There IS a fishing tournament called the "Jersey Bass Festival". And there's no "PETER THLIVEROSKI". It's a play on the name of Peter Thliveros, a sports fisherman. Lying is Brian's vocation. WorldJAZZ.com is built on the principle of the "Big Lie", first enunciated by Joseph Goebbels. Unfortunately, Brian doesn't know when to stop. The fact of his lying on rec.audio.marketplace results in his constant exposure on Google, which drives away the very suckers he would like to get for WorldJAZZ. We help this process of awareness along with a very active information program. Bluebook Value of Coral Sea Studios = MINUS $270,000. Bluebook Value of WorldJAZZ Scam = Less Than Zero, precise numbers are under INVESTIGATION. The Face Behind the Mask:Scammer Brian L. McCarty, Moscow Central TV, David C.L. Feng, David Ellison, Ying Hong Huang, Lee Hodges, Anthony Ramallo, Melinda Hsu, Melinda Shu 80 Raffles Place, Coral Sea Studios, WorldJazz, Enron, K1 Ventures, Trinity Beach, Cairns, Australia, Boomerang McCarty had an early scheme for Internet radio. He claims to have sold musical performance properties and/or a business plan to Black Entertainment Television for $9.2M. Subsequently, he left Los Angeles. One unsubstantiated rumor is that he left to avoid prosecution for a sex crime, presumably by paying off the victim or family. Once in Australia, he made the acquaintance of the brother of P.M. John Howard, who introduced him to contacts at ABN Amro, an investment banking firm. They created a business plan for some kind of a sound studio, still represented by the website http://www.coralseastudios.com. After approximately a year, ABN withdrew from partnership, but left the studio project still solvent. Some time later, it went bankrupt or nearly so, owing $270,000 to it's employees. At this point, Australia's entitlement law kicked in, paying the employees monies owed them, with the exception of codirectors McCarty and Jeff Wexler. It would appear that McCarty's enterprises failed because he has some kind of mental imbalance, which exhibits signs of both schizophrenia and obsessive-compulsive disorder. The impersonations which he makes of me are a fraction of the numerous identities which he has used in the past, and continues to use, on occasion, in the present. McCarty may actually believe he is the person who he impersonates. Many of the identities are of elaborate construction, taking some six months or more to take shape. McCarty seems to have a magical belief that use of false identities provides a shield. Since his business failure, McCarty has tried to obtain new financing. These methods characteristically rely on false identities and false business fronts. His domain registrations are in the names of nonexistent people, and his websites advertise nonexistent associations and companies, frequently by theft of trademark. For example, my name, Robert Morein, was used as a fictitious endorsement on his website http://www.coraseastudios.com. Since he was caught some three months ago claiming to be a producer for a syndicated jazz music program, his name has not appeared publicly on any of his business enterprises. McCarty is currently attempting to revive his Internet radio scheme, WorldJAZZ, under the name http://www.worldjazz.com. This webpage currently consists completely of false associations and endorsements. There is no "Jersey Jazz Bass Festival", and "Peter Thliveroski" is a modification of "Peter Thliveros", a sports bass fisherman! McCarty has certain bizarre beliefs regarding the pricing of used audio equipment appearing on rec.audio.marketplace. He refers constantly to a book known as the "Orion Bluebook", which reports surveys of audio dealers for prices they paid for used equipment, and prices at which sold. Anyone who advertises on rec.audio.marketplace with prices in excess of the "wholesale average condition" price is subject to attack by McCarty, who does so with the vigor of the Red Brigades. Tactics he has employed against victims are the filing of false crime reports with local police departments alleging that the seller deals in stolen goods and alleged zoning violations. Anyone can become a McCarty victim by disagreeing with him in a public forum. In the past, consequences have been virus attacks, email bomb attacks, defamatory postings, and chronic impersonation. All this is contradictory to McCarty's apparent goal of obtaining finance for his business projects. An intelligent scammer works quietly, while McCarty may be the best known scammer of all time. McCarty is 49 years old, and appears to be ill, requiring intermittent hospital care. He apparently lacks mobility. It is possible that this contributes to his mental imbalance. Among McCarty's aliases, we have: Anthony Ramallo, David Ellison, David C.L. Feng, Ying Hong Huang, Lee Hodges, Melinda Hsu, Melinda Shu, Robert Morein, Robert X Morein, Sylvan Morein, Sylvan X Morein, et al. |
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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:29:55 GMT, Bob Morein wrote:
On 10/16/03 2:18 AM, in article , "tor b" wrote: He also claims they are worth $1600!!!! Of course, he doesn't say that it costs him much less than $300 (parts and "labor") to make these things. Nor does he mention the extensive, ten-day R&D period. And until I can find a bluebook price for them, I guess they're worth whatever he wants for them. They're worth whatever people will pay for them. He could want $10,000 apiece, but that wouldn't make them worth that much. -- ************************************************** ********************** * John Oliver http://www.john-oliver.net/ * * "For the wages of spam is death!" http://www.spamcon.org/legalfund/ * ************************************************** ********************** -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:13:49 -0000, Rich Andrews wrote:
While it certainly isn't ethical to sell something to someone at overinflated prices, it is legal to a point. Where people usually end up in trouble is product liability, warranty, and a host of other well defined legal issues. Things can get quite ugly if someone incurs a loss that was directly or even indirectly related to the product sold. Manufacturing an item has a number of issues associated with it and certain laws do not apply to kits which is why they are sold as kits. It isn't so much about money. Now if he claims to have a MSRP of $1600.00, he will have to have proof that the MSRP is $1600.00 else face the consequences. Many a person has gone to jail for making claims about a product that could not be proven or were fictional. One could say that he is not manufacturing something, but the truth of the matter is, according to law, he is. MSRP is "Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price". He could say the MSRP is $428,500 if he wanted to. There's no law in the world against that. Of course, to actually sell any, the price would have to be so heavily discounted that the MSRP would be useless. As far as the ethics involved, what's "overinflated"? Wouldn't you say pet rocks at *any* price are overinflated? Yet a lot of people bought them and were quite happy with their purchase. Where's the ethical breach? If I make a widget, the actual cost I incur has *nothing* to do with the perceived value... if they cost me $3 to make and people line up to buy them at $100 each, how is that unethical? If it was, I would have some recourse if my widgets cost $20 to make and people were only willing to pay $8. An objects "value" is defined by the marketplace. Anything else will not work, and has been proven not to work time and again throughout history. -- ************************************************** ********************** * John Oliver http://www.john-oliver.net/ * * "For the wages of spam is death!" http://www.spamcon.org/legalfund/ * ************************************************** ********************** -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
John Oliver said: As far as the ethics involved, what's "overinflated"? Wouldn't you say pet rocks at *any* price are overinflated? Yet a lot of people bought them and were quite happy with their purchase. Where's the ethical breach? If I make a widget, the actual cost I incur has *nothing* to do with the perceived value... if they cost me $3 to make and people line up to buy them at $100 each, how is that unethical? If it was, I would have some recourse if my widgets cost $20 to make and people were only willing to pay $8. I believe you're missing the point. Deliberately? Who can tell. Nonetheless, this game is pretty simple. Gregipus's detractors are eager to shame him as a greedy con-artist. So they take a simple fact of the audio industry and try to reverse its polarity, thereby leading to a conclusion that is, according to their twisted logic, correct. The basic fact is that among real speaker makers (i.e., not some putz assembling products in a storage room he rents by the month), there is a certain ratio of retail price to manufacturing cost. The argument is that since Gregipus did not do any actual R&D, and since a "real" company could build similar-performing speakers for much less by virtue of economies of scale, Gregipus is attempting to con and cheat his buyers. There are some big holes in this logic, but this "debate" isn't really about logic. |
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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
George M. Middius wrote:
The basic fact is that among real speaker makers (i.e., not some putz assembling products in a storage room he rents by the month), there is a certain ratio of retail price to manufacturing cost. The argument is that since Gregipus did not do any actual R&D, and since a "real" company could build similar-performing speakers for much less by virtue of economies of scale, Gregipus is attempting to con and cheat his buyers. There are some big holes in this logic, but this "debate" isn't really about logic. You forgot three other things: 1: No other employees. 2: No inventory or warehouse. 3: No storefront/offices/etc. |
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"Jupiter-Audio" on Audiogon CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!
What do you guys think the markup is on speakers from any manufacture? I'll
bet a $100,000 pair of Wilsons only cost about five grand to make. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" Trains are a winter sport |
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