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amplified sound from a grand piano
Apologies, I know this group is more attuned to recording sound than reinforcing sound, but maybe somebody knows.
I was at a convention, in a big ballroom with 500 people, the usual high ceiling but no airconditioner noise and it did have carpet, it wasn't too echoey. When I heard the piano start I thought, "oh crap, a bad digital, an event this classy should have something better." (the pianist was excellent) Then I looked closer. They had a decent Yamaha grand, with the lid barely open and mikes just behind the music desk, close to the strings, one on the bass and one on the treble. As I listened, I realized the treble range really did sound like a good acoustic piano, but the bass!!!!!!!! ugh, that awful artificial slightly distorted sound in the left hand. Could that have been fixed with a little adjustment? |
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TimR wrote:
Apologies, I know this group is more attuned to recording sound than reinforcing sound, but maybe somebody knows. I was at a convention, in a big ballroom with 500 people, the usual high ceiling but no airconditioner noise and it did have carpet, it wasn't too echoey. When I heard the piano start I thought, "oh crap, a bad digital, an event this classy should have something better." (the pianist was excellent) Then I looked closer. They had a decent Yamaha grand, with the lid barely open and mikes just behind the music desk, close to the strings, one on the bass and one on the treble. As I listened, I realized the treble range really did sound like a good acoustic piano, but the bass!!!!!!!! ugh, that awful artificial slightly distorted sound in the left hand. Could that have been fixed with a little adjustment? Can only speculate without having heard both the piano itself on site, and then the live reinforcement. There are very many ways for this to go wrong. For instance, get the mic on the low end too close to the strings, then screw up gain staging so we clip the low end a bit, and the result can fit your description pretty well. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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On 2/9/2015 1:14 AM, TimR wrote:
When I heard the piano start I thought, "oh crap, a bad digital, an event this classy should have something better." (the pianist was excellent) Then I looked closer. They had a decent Yamaha grand, with the lid barely open and mikes just behind the music desk, close to the strings, one on the bass and one on the treble. As I listened, I realized the treble range really did sound like a good acoustic piano, but the bass!!!!!!!! ugh, that awful artificial slightly distorted sound in the left hand. Could that have been fixed with a little adjustment? Probably, with some adjustment with the mic placement and the mix of the two mics. It was probably set up by the venue's A/V crew who rarely get anything more exciting to work with than a podium mic and a projector. -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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TimR wrote:
Apologies, I know this group is more attuned to recording sound than reinforcing sound, but maybe somebody knows. I was at a convention, in a big ballroom with 500 people, the usual high ceiling but no airconditioner noise and it did have carpet, it wasn't too echoey. When I heard the piano start I thought, "oh crap, a bad digital, an event this classy should have something better." (the pianist was excellent) Then I looked closer. They had a decent Yamaha grand, with the lid barely open and mikes just behind the music desk, close to the strings, one on the bass and one on the treble. As I listened, I realized the treble range really did sound like a good acoustic piano, but the bass!!!!!!!! ugh, that awful artificial slightly distorted sound in the left hand. Could that have been fixed with a little adjustment? Yes. The thing is, a lot of the people who do conference jobs really don't know more than just "I put this here and I put that there and I set this knob to this number." Which, given the pay, shouldn't really surprise anyone. I do recording work at a bunch of corporate events and it's very interesting to see the range of skill among the PA crew. Occasionally you find real experts, more often you find people who can't find their own feet. This is made worse by the rooms often being pretty dreadful so skill is often required. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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