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((A fact cannot be racist. It cannot be anti-Semitic. It can not be
fascist. And it can not be hateful. There is no such thing as a hate fact.
Bret.))


View From Lodi, CA Pittsburgh, PA: €śHate Speech€ť Or €śHate Facts€ť -
Irrefutable But Unmentionable?

By Joe Guzzardi

?Toward the middle of every week, I check the News-Sentinel blog to see

how readers have responded to my column from the preceding Saturday.

Im always curious to measure how effectively Ive made my argument.
And I look for valuable feedback from readers who may point out an angle
that I might have overlooked.

The columns that have generated the most passionate reader reaction are
the critical ones that Ive directed at President George W. Bush and
those that reflect my immigration reduction philosophy.

Three weeks ago, commenting on two stories by News-Sentinel reporter
Jennifer Bonnett about the Lodi Unified School Districts English as a
second language classes, I wrote that after more than twenty years of
teaching adult ESL, I had serious doubts about its effectiveness.

In my summary, I made two central points.

First if the district, and in fact, the America, wants to reduce the huge
numbers of non-English speakers that drain increasingly scarce financial
and teacher resources, the Mexican government will have to fulfill its
obligation as a sovereign nation-state to provide for its citizens.
Instead, Mexico actively pushes them toward California where they bring
their school age children. Once here, more children are born.

Second, unless the decades-old trend of unchecked illegal immigration
reverses itself, America as we know it will cease to exist.

Some News-Sentinel readers objected.

Some feel that a multicultural, multilingual California would be a richer,
more rewarding place to live.

Others say that California once belonged to Mexico and it is only just
that, through immigration, the state will gradually revert to its original
status.

Still another group concluded that I am too harsh on the young second
language learners. One invited me to go to Stanford University where her
former ESL student is pursuing an advanced degree.

All those views are well and good. And many Californians hold them.

But heres the key thing. Every single one of them is an opinion and
arguable.

Maybe bilingual signage and pressing 1 for English doesnt bother you.
But it does me.

Mexico, in fact, did once own the California territory. But Mexico lost a
war with the U.S., willingly signed a treaty, accepted payment in exchange
for its land and thus allowed the U.S. to acquire California legitimately.

And sure, we can find ESL successes at Stanford and maybe even Harvard
too. But with the California Hispanic high school dropout rate at about 25
percent, its obvious that there are more failures than successes.

We can argue and argue and argue.

But theres no disputing my two conclusions. Like it or not, theyre
fact-based and 100 percent accurate.

To repeat, the students overwhelming our schools are either illegally in
the US or the illegal aliens children. If the U.S. enforced immigration
law, they would still be in their native countries.

And if the border remains wide open, then the America that many Lodians
and I grew up in is finished.

Should anyone care to challenge either of those two points, please feel
free to contact me.

Ill make one final but important point that readers also overlooked.

Although some charged me of €śhate,€ť Ill simply say in my defense
that I didnt pull the statistics out of the air. Dont kill the
messenger.

Bonnetts original story and the column I followed up with cited the Pew
Hispanic Center and the U.S. Census Bureau as calculating that by 2050
Hispanic K-12 student enrollment would increase by 116 percent nationwide
and that two thirds of all San Joaquin Valley children are Hispanic.

Does that make the Census Bureau and the Pew Hispanic Center €śhate€ť
organizations?

The reality is that to deal effectively with the increasingly high rates
of non-English speakers in Californias public education system, we have
to address what I refer to as politically incorrect €śhate facts€ť€”
that is, facts that no one refutes but everyone ignores because of their
connotation.

As long as no one---except maybe me---dares to talk about them, then you
can expect more of the same, at least until 2050.

For now, thats as long as the Census Bureau looks ahead."


http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/081121_vfl.htm


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On Nov 23, 4:14*pm, "BretLudwig" wrote:
((A fact cannot be racist. It cannot be anti-Semitic. It can not be
fascist. And it can not be hateful. There is no such thing as a hate fact..
Bret.))


What a dumb and ignorant thing to say.

It is a fact that black people and gays have been discriminated
against because of their skin color or sexual orientation. There's a
racist "hate fact" for you, you ignorant boob.
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Shhhh! said:

It is a fact that black people and gays have been discriminated
against because of their skin color or sexual orientation. There's a
racist "hate fact" for you, you ignorant boob.


Have you noticed that Arnii Kroofeces never crticizes Bratzi's racist rants?
According to "debating trade" principles, that means Mr. **** is in full (if
tacit) agreement with Bratzi.

Arnii, if you're not locked up in the county jail, you should confess your
latent racism to Pastor Matt. Schedule a special session at chruch™ in
order to get this hideous burden off your scrawny chest.




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On 23 Noi, 20:54, George M. Middius wrote:
Shhhh! said:

It is a fact that black people and gays have been discriminated
against because of their skin color or sexual orientation. There's a
racist "hate fact" for you, you ignorant boob.


Have you noticed that Arnii Kroofeces never crticizes Bratzi's racist rants?
According to "debating trade" principles, that means Mr. **** is in full (if
tacit) agreement with Bratzi.

Arnii, if you're not locked up in the county jail, you should confess your
latent racism to Pastor Matt. Schedule a special session at chruch™ *in
order to get this hideous burden off your scrawny chest.


As I see it, the Aryan Nation is probably "recruiting" him in the
exercise yard
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On Nov 23, 7:54*pm, George M. Middius
wrote:
Shhhh! said:

It is a fact that black people and gays have been discriminated
against because of their skin color or sexual orientation. There's a
racist "hate fact" for you, you ignorant boob.


Have you noticed that Arnii Kroofeces never crticizes Bratzi's racist rants?
According to "debating trade" principles, that means Mr. **** is in full (if
tacit) agreement with Bratzi.


It's the sign of a "good Christian": get whipped up over tubes or LPs,
ignore hate and discrimination to your fellow man.

Being a "good Christian" allows you to prioritize things like this.


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On 24 Noi, 13:11, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On Nov 23, 7:54*pm, George M. Middius
wrote:

Shhhh! said:


It is a fact that black people and gays have been discriminated
against because of their skin color or sexual orientation. There's a
racist "hate fact" for you, you ignorant boob.


Have you noticed that Arnii Kroofeces never crticizes Bratzi's racist rants?
According to "debating trade" principles, that means Mr. **** is in full (if
tacit) agreement with Bratzi.


It's the sign of a "good Christian": get whipped up over tubes or LPs,
ignore hate and discrimination to your fellow man.

Being a "good Christian" allows you to prioritize things like this.


Arny believes that a vinyl bigot is much worse than a racist bigot.
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When a 125 IQ White is passed over for a 100 IQ Black, that's
discrimination. When a White male that's been through tech school and has
relevant experience and can carry a 60 pound coupler knuckle down a 5000
foot consist gets passed over for a railroad job for a Black female who
can't pick one up and doesn't know the first thing about what makes a
train move because the company has a diversity dildo up its ass, that's
discrimination. When White college applicants have to have radically
better test scores to get in a school than minority ones, that's
discrimination.

Is there discrimination the other way? Sure-but anymore not very damn
much. Once you adjust for the fact of the bell curve, blacks and other
NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) who are actually feasible candidates have a
free E-ticket ride.

Same goes for females wanting nontraditional female jobs. If they
actually want and can actually do the job, they're in big demand because
the diversicrats need numbers. In general, women can not physically do a
lot of jobs they are being prodded into. Others they can, but are not
going to like very much.

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On 25 Noi, 18:13, "BretLudwig" wrote:
*When a 125 IQ White is passed over for a 100 IQ Black, that's
discrimination. When a White male that's been through tech school and has
relevant experience and can carry a 60 pound coupler knuckle down a 5000
foot consist gets passed over for a railroad job for a Black female who
can't pick one up and doesn't know the first thing about what makes a
train move because the company has a diversity dildo up its ass, that's
discrimination. When White college applicants have to have radically
better test scores to get in a school than minority ones, that's
discrimination.

*Is there discrimination the other way? Sure-but anymore not very damn
much. Once you adjust for the fact of the bell curve, blacks and other
NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) who are actually feasible candidates have a
free E-ticket ride.

*Same goes for females wanting nontraditional female jobs. If they
actually want and can actually do the job, they're in big demand because
the diversicrats need numbers. In general, women can not physically do a
lot of jobs they are being prodded into. Others they can, but are not
going to like very much. *


LOL!!!
Bratzi is upset that the skinheads are letting in unqualified women.
Some of them even have hair.
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"BretLudwig" wrote:

When a 125 IQ White is passed over for a 100 IQ Black, that's
discrimination. When a White male that's been through tech school and has
relevant experience and can carry a 60 pound coupler knuckle down a 5000
foot consist gets passed over for a railroad job for a Black female who
can't pick one up and doesn't know the first thing about what makes a
train move because the company has a diversity dildo up its ass, that's
discrimination. When White college applicants have to have radically
better test scores to get in a school than minority ones, that's
discrimination.

Is there discrimination the other way? Sure-but anymore not very damn
much. Once you adjust for the fact of the bell curve, blacks and other
NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) who are actually feasible candidates have a
free E-ticket ride.

Same goes for females wanting nontraditional female jobs. If they
actually want and can actually do the job, they're in big demand because
the diversicrats need numbers. In general, women can not physically do a
lot of jobs they are being prodded into. Others they can, but are not
going to like very much.

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You forgot to mention the size of anyone's sexual organs.
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LOL!

snip angry white guy urban legend myths.
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