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"ScottW" wrote in message
... On Aug 29, 4:05 pm, Audio Empire wrote: I certainly understand that, but a drum kit - in the context of the music using it adds quite a bit. It would be nice to be able to reproduce those drums accurately, Not the kit playing in your listening room (by your kid), but playing in the venue in which the whole ensemble was recorded and bring THAT into your listening room. Emulating a large space in a small space while providing the dynamics and power of live instruments is always a challenge. IME, Orions are one design that moved the bar on dynamics and power from a modestly sized speaker for the home listening room but the room interaction itself remains a limiting factor. Loud dynamic instruments like a trumpet or a snare drum generally aren't pleasing in small confined spaces. I haven't heard them but Don Keele's constant beamwidth transducer technology http://www.audioartistry.com/products_CBT.htm seems to advance the bar of dealing with room interactions with controlled and non-frequency dependent radiation patterns. The CBT is one of the strangest designs yet. He never does explain why he wants such a radiation pattern - what model of the reproduction problem does this satisfy? I think it must be just the simpleminded idea that we all want to eliminate the room reflections. Then he displays it on a reflective floor. Who in blazes designs a listening room with a reflective floor? As for the drum kit reproduction, the most stunning recording in my collection for drum reproduction is the Sheffield Drum Record. A drum kit "lives" in your listening room, with all its dynamics and steely sheen and precise imaging of every part of the kit. As for horns, I can't think of the best horns recording in my collection, but I have always liked the King James Version, at least for ensemble repro, if not for individual horns. Must check it again for that. Gary Eickmeier |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message
... IME, Orions are one design that moved the bar on dynamics and power from a modestly sized speaker for the home listening room but the room interaction itself remains a limiting factor. Loud dynamic instruments like a trumpet or a snare drum generally aren't pleasing in small confined spaces. I haven't heard them but Don Keele's constant beamwidth transducer technology http://www.audioartistry.com/products_CBT.htm seems to advance the bar of dealing with room interactions with controlled and non-frequency dependent radiation patterns. One of the three most popular ways to control directivity, the others being waveguides and a multiway systems with drivers with graded diameters. The CBT is one of the strangest designs yet. He never does explain why he wants such a radiation pattern - what model of the reproduction problem does this satisfy? A column of speakers like this primarily controls vertical directivity. The two possible targets would be the floor bounce and the ceiling bounce. I think it must be just the simpleminded idea that we all want to eliminate the room reflections. Since the drivers are small and the speakers are in a column, the only control is in the vertical direction. Then he displays it on a reflective floor. Who in blazes designs a listening room with a reflective floor? Lots of people. Furthermore, the carpets that most people put on their floors are far from being broadband absorbers. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
... "Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message ... IME, Orions are one design that moved the bar on dynamics and power from a modestly sized speaker for the home listening room but the room interaction itself remains a limiting factor. Loud dynamic instruments like a trumpet or a snare drum generally aren't pleasing in small confined spaces. I haven't heard them but Don Keele's constant beamwidth transducer technology http://www.audioartistry.com/products_CBT.htm seems to advance the bar of dealing with room interactions with controlled and non-frequency dependent radiation patterns. One of the three most popular ways to control directivity, the others being waveguides and a multiway systems with drivers with graded diameters. My sincere apologies to Scott and everyone - I tried to correct this error but didn't catch it in time. That above was from Scott, not me. I was responding to it, but my quoting software failed me and I didn't notice. Below was my contribution. The CBT is one of the strangest designs yet. He never does explain why he wants such a radiation pattern - what model of the reproduction problem does this satisfy? A column of speakers like this primarily controls vertical directivity. The two possible targets would be the floor bounce and the ceiling bounce. I think it must be just the simpleminded idea that we all want to eliminate the room reflections. Since the drivers are small and the speakers are in a column, the only control is in the vertical direction. His diagrams make it look like they have a cardioid pattern rather than hemispherical. Then he displays it on a reflective floor. Who in blazes designs a listening room with a reflective floor? Lots of people. Furthermore, the carpets that most people put on their floors are far from being broadband absorbers. Well, it is the higher frequencies that I would want to absorb with thick carpeting. I just can't think of any acoustical justification for floor bounce being desirable. I advocate (as do many others) encouraging the side reflections to fill out the all important lateral reflections contained in the recording. You can use side speakers on delay, but what the hell - reflections are free and always delayed, no? Gary Eickmeier |
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