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Computer Based Drum module? Is it possible?
Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just
know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this. I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20 (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on a snare roll. So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the dm5 is just used as a midi converter. What software will do this? Thanks so much! Doug in Tennessee |
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Yes. You use some sample-playing software like Kontakt and then load it with
whatever sample package you choose like "Drums from Hell" or BFD. The cost of the software is equivalent to the TD-20, so it's a wash....except that you can have a better setup with a PC than the TD-20. Instead of modeling the sounds, think 12-16 velocity layered snare samples (in other words, when you hit softly, a studio sample of a snare being hit softly is played. a little louder, and a sample of a snare being hit a little louder is faded in and the first sample is faded out a bit....etc.) You also need a mogambo PC to do this with 2.5 GHZ or higher. 1.5 Gigs of RAM or more. Lots of info on www.vdrums.com ....Joey "rothman_24" wrote in message .. . Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this. I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20 (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on a snare roll. So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the dm5 is just used as a midi converter. What software will do this? Thanks so much! Doug in Tennessee |
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Yes. You use some sample-playing software like Kontakt and then load it with
whatever sample package you choose like "Drums from Hell" or BFD. The cost of the software is equivalent to the TD-20, so it's a wash....except that you can have a better setup with a PC than the TD-20. Instead of modeling the sounds, think 12-16 velocity layered snare samples (in other words, when you hit softly, a studio sample of a snare being hit softly is played. a little louder, and a sample of a snare being hit a little louder is faded in and the first sample is faded out a bit....etc.) You also need a mogambo PC to do this with 2.5 GHZ or higher. 1.5 Gigs of RAM or more. Lots of info on www.vdrums.com ....Joey "rothman_24" wrote in message .. . Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this. I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20 (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on a snare roll. So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the dm5 is just used as a midi converter. What software will do this? Thanks so much! Doug in Tennessee |
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Thank You, Thank you Joey!!!
"Joey" wrote in message ... Yes. You use some sample-playing software like Kontakt and then load it with whatever sample package you choose like "Drums from Hell" or BFD. The cost of the software is equivalent to the TD-20, so it's a wash....except that you can have a better setup with a PC than the TD-20. Instead of modeling the sounds, think 12-16 velocity layered snare samples (in other words, when you hit softly, a studio sample of a snare being hit softly is played. a little louder, and a sample of a snare being hit a little louder is faded in and the first sample is faded out a bit....etc.) You also need a mogambo PC to do this with 2.5 GHZ or higher. 1.5 Gigs of RAM or more. Lots of info on www.vdrums.com ...Joey "rothman_24" wrote in message .. . Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this. I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20 (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on a snare roll. So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the dm5 is just used as a midi converter. What software will do this? Thanks so much! Doug in Tennessee |
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Thank You, Thank you Joey!!!
"Joey" wrote in message ... Yes. You use some sample-playing software like Kontakt and then load it with whatever sample package you choose like "Drums from Hell" or BFD. The cost of the software is equivalent to the TD-20, so it's a wash....except that you can have a better setup with a PC than the TD-20. Instead of modeling the sounds, think 12-16 velocity layered snare samples (in other words, when you hit softly, a studio sample of a snare being hit softly is played. a little louder, and a sample of a snare being hit a little louder is faded in and the first sample is faded out a bit....etc.) You also need a mogambo PC to do this with 2.5 GHZ or higher. 1.5 Gigs of RAM or more. Lots of info on www.vdrums.com ...Joey "rothman_24" wrote in message .. . Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this. I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20 (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on a snare roll. So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the dm5 is just used as a midi converter. What software will do this? Thanks so much! Doug in Tennessee |
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There are programs that act as sound modules available. You can store an
assload of samples on them and get these to trigger via the midi in. GigaSampler is the one I've heard most about. But I'll bet there aren't drum functions specifically (like your mention of snare buzz when you hit toms). But many studio producer types use this product with drum sample packs with success - probably not so good for real-time like a dedicated brain. I suspect the delay would drive you nuts even though it'sonly a couple milliseconds. my .02 dik |
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There are programs that act as sound modules available. You can store an
assload of samples on them and get these to trigger via the midi in. GigaSampler is the one I've heard most about. But I'll bet there aren't drum functions specifically (like your mention of snare buzz when you hit toms). But many studio producer types use this product with drum sample packs with success - probably not so good for real-time like a dedicated brain. I suspect the delay would drive you nuts even though it'sonly a couple milliseconds. my .02 dik |
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"rothman_24" wrote in message
.. . What software will do this? Thanks so much! If I'm reading you right, Battery from Native Instruments will do it, in either stand-alone or VSTi form. -- Neil Henderson Saqqara Records http://www.saqqararecords.com |
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"rothman_24" wrote in message
.. . What software will do this? Thanks so much! If I'm reading you right, Battery from Native Instruments will do it, in either stand-alone or VSTi form. -- Neil Henderson Saqqara Records http://www.saqqararecords.com |
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I'll finish mapping a TrapKAT to BFD nest week.......at least I think I
will. I know it's possible with a Ddrum kit and a DrumKAT. The TrapKAT is a little different, but is probably not too different from the DrumKAT. I've been triggering BFD samples in real time today triggering from the KAT RME 9652Cubasse SX 2.0BFD. It's sort of shocking to hear this kind of realism from a rubber pad. ............and I just spent 2 hours mic'ing up a real Ludwig kit for a session tomorrow. I'm fried from listening to (((((%^*$^% drums all (%^&&^ day! "rothman_24" wrote in message .. . Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this. I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20 (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on a snare roll. So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the dm5 is just used as a midi converter. What software will do this? Thanks so much! Doug in Tennessee |
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I'll finish mapping a TrapKAT to BFD nest week.......at least I think I
will. I know it's possible with a Ddrum kit and a DrumKAT. The TrapKAT is a little different, but is probably not too different from the DrumKAT. I've been triggering BFD samples in real time today triggering from the KAT RME 9652Cubasse SX 2.0BFD. It's sort of shocking to hear this kind of realism from a rubber pad. ............and I just spent 2 hours mic'ing up a real Ludwig kit for a session tomorrow. I'm fried from listening to (((((%^*$^% drums all (%^&&^ day! "rothman_24" wrote in message .. . Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this. I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20 (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on a snare roll. So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the dm5 is just used as a midi converter. What software will do this? Thanks so much! Doug in Tennessee |
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"Animix" wrote in message
... I'm fried from listening to (((((%^*$^% drums all (%^&&^ day! Deej, i just hope you used the LDC's for the overheads & the SDC's for the room mics. -- Neil Henderson Saqqara Records http://www.saqqararecords.com |
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"Animix" wrote in message
... I'm fried from listening to (((((%^*$^% drums all (%^&&^ day! Deej, i just hope you used the LDC's for the overheads & the SDC's for the room mics. -- Neil Henderson Saqqara Records http://www.saqqararecords.com |
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Actually, I'm just jacking around with this thing trying to see how this old
birch kit is gonna warm up to this big cedar room.with the wierd ceilings sloping up to about 25'. Not a single parallel friggin surface, that's for sure. I've got a couple of KM 184's on the OH's right now with an '87 hanging off the balcony centered about 8' off the floor and about 7' in front of the kick with a Beta 52 inside the kick shell, a D4 on the beater and the usual complement of EV's, 57's with an Oktava MK012 on the hat. It sounds...............errrrr..........unique. I tried LDC's - pair of C-1's- on the OH's and they sounded pretty good so I promptly ****ed everything up and moved them to try something else. I'm working by myself tonight just to get the feel of it and the CR is upstairs, the drum room is downstairs and I'm just too old for this *multiple stairs* crap. It's a new room and an unfamiliar kit and I don't have it dialed in yet but I think it's gonna be a monster once it's right. I'll have my young midigeek assistants here in the AM to start moving mics around and if I can get the drummer in here to get his heads right, we should have a good session. ;O) wrote in message m... "Animix" wrote in message ... I'm fried from listening to (((((%^*$^% drums all (%^&&^ day! Deej, i just hope you used the LDC's for the overheads & the SDC's for the room mics. -- Neil Henderson Saqqara Records http://www.saqqararecords.com |
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Actually, I'm just jacking around with this thing trying to see how this old
birch kit is gonna warm up to this big cedar room.with the wierd ceilings sloping up to about 25'. Not a single parallel friggin surface, that's for sure. I've got a couple of KM 184's on the OH's right now with an '87 hanging off the balcony centered about 8' off the floor and about 7' in front of the kick with a Beta 52 inside the kick shell, a D4 on the beater and the usual complement of EV's, 57's with an Oktava MK012 on the hat. It sounds...............errrrr..........unique. I tried LDC's - pair of C-1's- on the OH's and they sounded pretty good so I promptly ****ed everything up and moved them to try something else. I'm working by myself tonight just to get the feel of it and the CR is upstairs, the drum room is downstairs and I'm just too old for this *multiple stairs* crap. It's a new room and an unfamiliar kit and I don't have it dialed in yet but I think it's gonna be a monster once it's right. I'll have my young midigeek assistants here in the AM to start moving mics around and if I can get the drummer in here to get his heads right, we should have a good session. ;O) wrote in message m... "Animix" wrote in message ... I'm fried from listening to (((((%^*$^% drums all (%^&&^ day! Deej, i just hope you used the LDC's for the overheads & the SDC's for the room mics. -- Neil Henderson Saqqara Records http://www.saqqararecords.com |
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"Kevin Buffardi" wrote in message
... If your soundcard is a soundblaster, just try to find yourself a good drumset soundfont, and you're set. You're right. There's some darn good soundfonts out there if you look around. |
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"Animix" wrote in
: I'll finish mapping a TrapKAT to BFD nest week.......at least I think I will. I know it's possible with a Ddrum kit and a DrumKAT. The TrapKAT is a little different, but is probably not too different from the DrumKAT. Whats different except for the fact that it has more pads? |
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