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Subwoofer hookup question
Looking for a little advice. Some years ago I bought a basic Kenwood
home theater system—VR505 receiver, 05HT subwoofer (no external power to the subwoofer), and 5 satellite (205HT) speakers. I decided to replace the receiver, and bought a Pioneer VSX-D814. The television is a Hitachi Ultravision rear projection, a few years old, not HDTV. With the Kenwood amp, the speaker output for the "front" speakers went to the SW, with the front speakers wired to the SW. When I got the new amp, I wanted to hook up the speakers as diagrammed, and directly connected the front speakers to the amp, as well as all the others. I can't get the SW to work. The D814 doesn't automatically recognize the subwoofer, and I haven't figured out either how to set the options on the amp or to hook up the SW properly to get it to work. I've gone back to the "pass-through" setup, but my feeling is that I'm not properly powering all the speakers if I'm running two speakers through the SW. (Am I wrong?) Is there a way to get this to work directly, or should I just leave well enough alone? Or do I need a new SW? |
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Tom Wassel wrote:
Looking for a little advice. Some years ago I bought a basic Kenwood home theater system?VR505 receiver, 05HT subwoofer (no external power to the subwoofer), and 5 satellite (205HT) speakers. I decided to replace the receiver, and bought a Pioneer VSX-D814. The television is a Hitachi Ultravision rear projection, a few years old, not HDTV. With the Kenwood amp, the speaker output for the "front" speakers went to the SW, with the front speakers wired to the SW. When I got the new amp, I wanted to hook up the speakers as diagrammed, and directly connected the front speakers to the amp, as well as all the others. I can't get the SW to work. The D814 doesn't automatically recognize the subwoofer, and I haven't figured out either how to set the options on the amp or to hook up the SW properly to get it to work. I've gone back to the "pass-through" setup, but my feeling is that I'm not properly powering all the speakers if I'm running two speakers through the SW. (Am I wrong?) Is there a way to get this to work directly, or should I just leave well enough alone? Or do I need a new SW? Looking at the user's manual online, it looks like the SW-05HT is a passive sub that only offers 'speaker level' ("passthrough") connections, and only for one pair of speakers. That means the signal has to go from the receiver, through the sub (where presumably bass frequencies are extracted, though itsfrequency response is rated up to 1 kHz, which is ridiculous for a 'subwoofer') and then onto the front left and right main speakers only. It also looks like the Kenwood VR-505 was intended for use with a line-level (audio jack-connected) pwoereed subwoofer, fed from the sub pre-out jack. I don't understand why this sub was sold to you as part of a home theater setup, since it appears not suitable for anything but a two-channel setup. How did you connect the sub to the Pioneer receiver? I wodl suggest that its your speaker setup, rather than the receiver, that was most in need of replacement. The VR-505 lacked Dolby Pro Logic II, which is nice to ahve for CDs, but at least had DPL I, Dolby Digital and DTS, whihc suffice for all movies. -- -S. |
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Steven Sullivan wrote:
Tom Wassel wrote: Looking for a little advice. Some years ago I bought a basic Kenwood home theater system?VR505 receiver, 05HT subwoofer (no external power to the subwoofer), and 5 satellite (205HT) speakers. I decided to replace the receiver, and bought a Pioneer VSX-D814. The television is a Hitachi Ultravision rear projection, a few years old, not HDTV. With the Kenwood amp, the speaker output for the "front" speakers went to the SW, with the front speakers wired to the SW. When I got the new amp, I wanted to hook up the speakers as diagrammed, and directly connected the front speakers to the amp, as well as all the others. I can't get the SW to work. The D814 doesn't automatically recognize the subwoofer, and I haven't figured out either how to set the options on the amp or to hook up the SW properly to get it to work. I've gone back to the "pass-through" setup, but my feeling is that I'm not properly powering all the speakers if I'm running two speakers through the SW. (Am I wrong?) Is there a way to get this to work directly, or should I just leave well enough alone? Or do I need a new SW? Looking at the user's manual online, it looks like the SW-05HT is a passive sub that only offers 'speaker level' ("passthrough") connections, and only for one pair of speakers. That means the signal has to go from the receiver, through the sub (where presumably bass frequencies are extracted, though itsfrequency response is rated up to 1 kHz, which is ridiculous for a 'subwoofer') and then onto the front left and right main speakers only. It also looks like the Kenwood VR-505 was intended for use with a line-level (audio jack-connected) pwoereed subwoofer, fed from the sub pre-out jack. I don't understand why this sub was sold to you as part of a home theater setup, since it appears not suitable for anything but a two-channel setup. How did you connect the sub to the Pioneer receiver? I wodl suggest that its your speaker setup, rather than the receiver, that was most in need of replacement. The VR-505 lacked Dolby Pro Logic II, which is nice to ahve for CDs, but at least had DPL I, Dolby Digital and DTS, whihc suffice for all movies. Exactly. My feeling is that the sub-woofer was not really a sub-woofer. I looked at the specs on line to confirm: frequency range is from 40 Hz to 1Khz. A proper sub-woofer will do 35Hz and below usually. It's correct name should be a bass module. when connecting the set ('sub' woofer and satellites) to your system, simply treat the bass module and it's 2 satelites as if they are a stereo pair of speakers and connect them accordingly. Ignore any subwoofer connections. CD |
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Thanks to all for your help. I understand the situation now.
Tom Codifus wrote in message ... Steven Sullivan wrote: Tom Wassel wrote: Looking for a little advice. Some years ago I bought a basic Kenwood home theater system?VR505 receiver, 05HT subwoofer (no external power to the subwoofer), and 5 satellite (205HT) speakers. I decided to replace the receiver, and bought a Pioneer VSX-D814. The television is a Hitachi Ultravision rear projection, a few years old, not HDTV. With the Kenwood amp, the speaker output for the "front" speakers went to the SW, with the front speakers wired to the SW. When I got the new amp, I wanted to hook up the speakers as diagrammed, and directly connected the front speakers to the amp, as well as all the others. I can't get the SW to work. The D814 doesn't automatically recognize the subwoofer, and I haven't figured out either how to set the options on the amp or to hook up the SW properly to get it to work. I've gone back to the "pass-through" setup, but my feeling is that I'm not properly powering all the speakers if I'm running two speakers through the SW. (Am I wrong?) Is there a way to get this to work directly, or should I just leave well enough alone? Or do I need a new SW? Looking at the user's manual online, it looks like the SW-05HT is a passive sub that only offers 'speaker level' ("passthrough") connections, and only for one pair of speakers. That means the signal has to go from the receiver, through the sub (where presumably bass frequencies are extracted, though itsfrequency response is rated up to 1 kHz, which is ridiculous for a 'subwoofer') and then onto the front left and right main speakers only. It also looks like the Kenwood VR-505 was intended for use with a line-level (audio jack-connected) pwoereed subwoofer, fed from the sub pre-out jack. I don't understand why this sub was sold to you as part of a home theater setup, since it appears not suitable for anything but a two-channel setup. How did you connect the sub to the Pioneer receiver? I wodl suggest that its your speaker setup, rather than the receiver, that was most in need of replacement. The VR-505 lacked Dolby Pro Logic II, which is nice to ahve for CDs, but at least had DPL I, Dolby Digital and DTS, whihc suffice for all movies. Exactly. My feeling is that the sub-woofer was not really a sub-woofer. I looked at the specs on line to confirm: frequency range is from 40 Hz to 1Khz. A proper sub-woofer will do 35Hz and below usually. It's correct name should be a bass module. when connecting the set ('sub' woofer and satellites) to your system, simply treat the bass module and it's 2 satelites as if they are a stereo pair of speakers and connect them accordingly. Ignore any subwoofer connections. CD |
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