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Cause of "motorboating"
Without going into design specifics, can anyone tell me where to fault
find a single ended guitar amp that is "motorboating" at higher volumes. The wiring and components check out OK. It was ordered as a kit from Weber. Thank you, Rob Martin |
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Cause of "motorboating"
Rob Martin wrote: Without going into design specifics, can anyone tell me where to fault find a single ended guitar amp that is "motorboating" at higher volumes. The wiring and components check out OK. It was ordered as a kit from Weber. It's normally caused by inadequate supply decoupling ( too low value or 'tired' power supply electrolytic caps ). Graham |
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Cause of "motorboating"
** Generally - it is due to a lack of wind ..... ....... Phil |
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Cause of "motorboating"
Without going into design specifics, can anyone tell me where to
fault find a single ended guitar amp that is "motorboating" at higher volumes. Assuming you are correct in saying the wiring and components are OK, then the design must be at fault. Hence "design specifics" are inescapable. Motorboating is a low frequency oscillation. Oscillations arise from the relations between different parts of the amp, and so have no single cause. In your case the relations include the power supply transformer and filter, the filters at the anodes of gain stages, the couplings between stages, and the gain in whatever loop is getting excited. I guess the measure least likely to upset the character of the amp would be to use a larger cap at the anode of one of the gain stages or splitter...whichever is presently inadequate. But there are any number of options, probably. The behaviour of these filters depends on resistance as well as capacitance. A circuit diagram would be useful. Can you post a link, or a circuit to ABSE (alt.binaries.schematics.electronic)? If not, perhaps you could describe its circuit. In particular, where is the volume control? Presumably when you say "higher volumes" you mean as a result of turning the amp up, rather than playing louder? cheers, Ian |
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Cause of "motorboating"
Rob Martin wrote:
Without going into design specifics, can anyone tell me where to fault find a single ended guitar amp that is "motorboating" at higher volumes. The wiring and components check out OK. It was ordered as a kit from Weber. Which one, Gerald or Ted? ;-) Try a smaller value of coupling capacitor ahead of the output tube, or a smaller value of cathode resistor bypass cap on the output tube. Often people use larger values that what's needed for a guitar amp, you can run into farting distortion and motorboating doing that.. -- Ned Carlson SW side of Chicago, USA www.tubezone.net |
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Cause of .. Ping Phil
"Phil Allison" wrote in message
... ** Generally - it is due to a lack of wind ..... ...... Phil Phil ... I live in Florida but I'm going to visit a dear friend in Gooramadda. I'll be traveling all over South - East Australia and wonder if you and I can have an eyeball, as they say. I think it will be interesting and fun to meet you. What do you say? Cordially, west |
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Cause of .. Ping Phil
west wrote: "Phil Allison" wrote in message ** Generally - it is due to a lack of wind ..... ...... Phil Phil ... I live in Florida but I'm going to visit a dear friend in Gooramadda. I'll be traveling all over South - East Australia and wonder if you and I can have an eyeball, as they say. I think it will be interesting and fun to meet you. What do you say? An 'eyeball' ? Were you considering removing one ? Graham |