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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
I was looking through various mic pre amp and channel strip packages
and heard a lot of good things about the Langevin DVC. Normally you don't hear universal applause about anything. In the case of the DVC the reviewers liked it and just about every post I read here liked it. Clean sound and a bargin price were the things most mentioned. Now here's my position. My current mic pre amp is a Focusrite Voicemaster. The Langevin is a step up in price but how much of a step up in audio quality can I expect? Will I feel as if my mics were let out of the closet to breath? I need 2 channels for recording various things. The DVC certainly looks like it can provide what I need. A limiter instead of compression might suit me. The limited eq just forces one to use their imagination. I would simply eq by mic position. My guess is the price is reflective of the spartan controls but it delivers on sound? The DVC has some drawbacks but they seems to be corrective as well. No phase reverse switch. Shure makes an adapter, monster cable has a short cable, those were the first 2 companies I checked out. Sometimes less is more. Is the Langevin more? Will it blow my voicemaster out of the water? William |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
Doctor Phibes wrote:
Now here's my position. My current mic pre amp is a Focusrite Voicemaster. The Langevin is a step up in price but how much of a step up in audio quality can I expect? Will I feel as if my mics were let out of the closet to breath? I've never used the Voicemaster. But I know know that most Langevin/Manley dealers should allow you to check one out for a week on a credit card and audition it so you can decide for yourself. The DVC has some drawbacks but they seems to be corrective as well. No phase reverse switch. Shure makes an adapter, monster cable has a short cable, those were the first 2 companies I checked out. Or you use a figure-8 and turn it around. Sometimes less is more. Is the Langevin more? Will it blow my voicemaster out of the water? The Langevin sounds good. You'll like it. How much more than your Voicemaster I don't know. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
The DVC has some drawbacks but they seems to be corrective as well. No
phase reverse switch. Another possible drawback, depending on what mics you intend you use with it, is only 40 db of gain. However, you can buy some more with the limiter makeup gain, at the expense of running through additional circuitry. Scott Fraser |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
(Ron Florentine) wrote in message . com...
(Scott Dorsey) wrote in message ... Doctor Phibes wrote: Now here's my position. My current mic pre amp is a Focusrite Voicemaster. The Langevin is a step up in price but how much of a step up in audio quality can I expect? Will I feel as if my mics were let out of the closet to breath? I've never used the Voicemaster. But I know know that most Langevin/Manley dealers should allow you to check one out for a week on a credit card and audition it so you can decide for yourself. The DVC has some drawbacks but they seems to be corrective as well. No phase reverse switch. Shure makes an adapter, monster cable has a short cable, those were the first 2 companies I checked out. Or you use a figure-8 and turn it around. Sometimes less is more. Is the Langevin more? Will it blow my voicemaster out of the water? The Langevin sounds good. You'll like it. How much more than your Voicemaster I don't know. --scott I rerally like DVC its a great bang for the buck.The pre's are really solid sounding ,fairly neutral....not a ton of personality or color but a good solid pre..IMHO much better than what you are using.The EQ is limited but sounds really good ,a great way to add a little shine or body to your tracks.The limiter is very nice and you can also go line in and use the limiting section seperatly.Its not a very fast limiter but what it does it does well.If your looking for a ton of personality or color look elsewhere.(API,Neve-clone,Manley tube stuff)For the price I am not aware of much else that compares. Ron Florentine Soundswest Studio Thanks for info Ron, I keep going back to "less is more" mentality. The lack of controls will allow me to focus more on performance. I think moving the microphones around is a far more useful eq. Bargin is a reoccuring theme I've come across from people some of which I might imagine could afford more. thanks William |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
I have a dvc and 2 dragonfly mics. I've also had the blueberry. BLUE
mics seem to have low self noise and put out a pretty decent level so you should have no troubles matching a Blue mic with the DVC. I personally thought the blueberry was too thin and bright sounding through the dvc and preffered the blueberry through the VoxBox or Manley 40db dualmono. I love my U87ai through the DVC for vocals and it hasn't yet been bad enough to switch to something else. Meaning a touch of shine or warmth from the DVC eq section, smoothing out the peaks with the magical DVC limiter or changing mic patterns on the u87ai has always made producers and talent plenty happy. I'm not saying there aren't better combo's but the dvc and u87ai are so good so often it's my goto setup that I take with me as a freelancer who never knows what to expect from the studio I'm working out of. As for instruments, The DVC-dragonfly combo has produced some great recording's of elec,acoustic guitars, horn sections and my current favorite uses are Piano and drum overheads. For the price of the DVC being around $1600 new i can't think of anything that is even close to it's sound quality in it's price range. Chris Wavetrap (Doctor Phibes) wrote in message om... (ScotFraser) wrote in message ... The DVC has some drawbacks but they seems to be corrective as well. No phase reverse switch. Another possible drawback, depending on what mics you intend you use with it, is only 40 db of gain. However, you can buy some more with the limiter makeup gain, at the expense of running through additional circuitry. Scott Fraser Part of this purchase also includes 2 new microphones. I'm interested in 2 BLUE mics; The Blueberry and The Mouse. Would they present a problem? William |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
Part of this purchase also includes 2 new microphones. I'm interested
in 2 BLUE mics; The Blueberry and The Mouse. Would they present a problem? Not unless you're distant miking a very quiet instrument. Where you would run into gain issues would be miking a dulcimer with KM84s, or ribbon mics on just about any source. Scott Fraser |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
Not unless you're distant miking a very quiet instrument. Where you would run
into gain issues would be miking a dulcimer with KM84s, or ribbon mics on just about any source. Actually, I've miked dulcimers with KM84s many times, and never had gain problems. (I finally gave up because KM84s are still too hard-sounding for dulcimers, emphasizing the window-shade-flapping sound of the pick.) The real rub is miking dulcimers with ribbons, which sound a lot better but have serious gain/noise issues. Peace, Paul |
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(Chris Seifert) wrote in message . com...
I have a dvc and 2 dragonfly mics. I've also had the blueberry. BLUE mics seem to have low self noise and put out a pretty decent level so you should have no troubles matching a Blue mic with the DVC. I personally thought the blueberry was too thin and bright sounding through the dvc and preffered the blueberry through the VoxBox or Manley 40db dualmono. I love my U87ai through the DVC for vocals and it hasn't yet been bad enough to switch to something else. Meaning a touch of shine or warmth from the DVC eq section, smoothing out the peaks with the magical DVC limiter or changing mic patterns on the u87ai has always made producers and talent plenty happy. I'm not saying there aren't better combo's but the dvc and u87ai are so good so often it's my goto setup that I take with me as a freelancer who never knows what to expect from the studio I'm working out of. As for instruments, The DVC-dragonfly combo has produced some great recording's of elec,acoustic guitars, horn sections and my current favorite uses are Piano and drum overheads. For the price of the DVC being around $1600 new i can't think of anything that is even close to it's sound quality in it's price range. Chris Wavetrap (Doctor Phibes) wrote in message om... (ScotFraser) wrote in message ... The DVC has some drawbacks but they seems to be corrective as well. No phase reverse switch. Another possible drawback, depending on what mics you intend you use with it, is only 40 db of gain. However, you can buy some more with the limiter makeup gain, at the expense of running through additional circuitry. Scott Fraser Part of this purchase also includes 2 new microphones. I'm interested in 2 BLUE mics; The Blueberry and The Mouse. Would they present a problem? William Well on the note of the blueberry wasn't it designed to be thin to cut through the mix? Based on company descriptions and user as well as magazine reviews I'd say it sounds like a number 2 position, second one in from the bridge on a strat. Am I way off? My choice in theory of selecting a blueberry is to cut through the d-28. Despite the fact most people mic these things as if they were banjos they produce a lot of base. I like my voice to mix with the acoustic guitar. recording each seperate sounds too contrived. I'm really thinking the blue berry positioned correctly will allow my voice to cut through with the mouse. I'm willing to take the chance because i feel certain it will do the trick, just intuition I suppose but something I've come to rely upon. Thanks for the info though, I may be interested in dragon flies as well William |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
Owning a DVC, and having used a blueberry a few times, I'd think the combo
maybe not completely optimal. They both have some extra top, and I think that that particular combo could get screechy. Definitely not a swiss army knife thing. I do love my DVC, though (unfortunately, I'm selling it soon). If you're looking for a 'main pair' type thing, though, I'd look for something with a little softer top end mic-wise to match up to the DVC. Actually, it sounds great with an SM57.... -- Jon Best Muddy Creek Audio Well on the note of the blueberry wasn't it designed to be thin to cut through the mix? Based on company descriptions and user as well as magazine reviews I'd say it sounds like a number 2 position, second one in from the bridge on a strat. Am I way off? My choice in theory of selecting a blueberry is to cut through the d-28. Despite the fact most people mic these things as if they were banjos they produce a lot of base. I like my voice to mix with the acoustic guitar. recording each seperate sounds too contrived. I'm really thinking the blue berry positioned correctly will allow my voice to cut through with the mouse. I'm willing to take the chance because i feel certain it will do the trick, just intuition I suppose but something I've come to rely upon. Thanks for the info though, I may be interested in dragon flies as well William |
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What can I expect from Langevin DVC?
Actually, I've miked dulcimers with KM84s many times, and never had gain
problems. (I finally gave up because KM84s are still too hard-sounding for dulcimers, emphasizing the window-shade-flapping sound of the pick.) Pick? No wonder. The dulcimer players I've worked with are all fingerpickers, & they're barely audible. Scott Fraser |
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