[Jay Ts]

AbsenceStudios wrote:
Put addresses in at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html.

Another thing that can be done - take the Google Groups Online
Help Survey:

https://survey.google.com/wix/p1661699.aspx

Complain bitterly, complain often. :-P

Jay Ts
--
To contact me, use this web page:
http://www.jayts.com/contact.php

[AbsenceStudios]

E-mail Address:

[AbsenceStudios]

Put addresses in at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html.

[clams_casino]

Soundhaspriority wrote:

In article , "Jay Ts"
wrote:



AbsenceStudios wrote:


Put addresses in at http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html.



This form is useless for reporting Usenet spam.

Robert Morein
(310) 237-6511
(215) 646-4894




Google is the spammer's best friend. They beleive spam is freedom of
speech.

If it's posted via Googlegroups, it's a 99.9997867% likeliness of being
spam.

[Mike Rivers]

Soundhaspriority wrote:

This form is useless for reporting Usenet spam.

Everything is useless for reporting Usenet spam and actually getting
anything done with it. You can have your own news server and do some
very heavy filtering like a friend of mine does. When a flood of spam
starts coming from, say China, he blocks all incoming posts from China.
Some may be legitimate, but they're an unfortunate casualty of his
personal war on spam.

Oh, an by the way, since I've been experimenting in the past few days
with using Verizon rather than Google Groups to read and post to
rec.audio.pro, it seems that the spam count in my Verizon e-mail has
gone way up. This could be a coincidence, but can someone who's good at
looking at headers take a look at this post and see if there's anything
in here that makes my Verizon address easy for a spammer to harvest?



--
If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)

[Richard Webb]

To: Mike Rivers
Hi MIke,

Mike Rivers wrote in a message to rec.audio.pro:

Everything is useless for reporting Usenet spam and actually getting
anything done with it. You can have your own news server and do some
very heavy filtering like a friend of mine does. When a flood of
spam starts coming from, say China, he blocks all incoming posts
from China. Some may be legitimate, but they're an unfortunate
casualty of his personal war on spam.

Doesn't hurt anything, I've never seen any legitimate posts from china on
usenet in a decade.

SUpposedly this feed is well filtered, but lately his filters have broken down
and I see every a**hole advertising fake designer crappola.

Oh, an by the way, since I've been experimenting in the past few
days with using Verizon rather than Google Groups to read and post
to rec.audio.pro, it seems that the spam count in my Verizon e-mail
has gone way up. This could be a coincidence, but can someone who's
good at looking at headers take a look at this post and see if
there's anything in here that makes my Verizon address easy for a
spammer to harvest?

were I reading this group as I do some others with a lower spam content from
bellsouth I'd be able to, but this one shows me the fido path lines to my
system from the gating system and not the usenet header info. May switch back
if this one's filters don't improve their caching and trapping of the CHina
spambots.



Regards,
Richard
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[Richard Crowley]

"AbsenceStudios" wrote ...
E-mail Address:



(long list of useless, one-time-use addresses snipped)

You're tilting at windmills.
This is a losing battle.
The spammers are smarter than you.
The reason there are so many addresses on your
list is because they change them more often than
you change your underwear.
You cannot filter by sender.
Unless you just do *.gmail and./or *.cn, etc.
(both of which are good ideas, IMHO)

As someone else observed, the chances of a legitimate
English-language post from a *.cn address are practically
zero.

And since Google is implicit in the spamming, posts
from people with @gmail accounts are also highly
likely to be useless slimeball spammers, as well.

Get a clue. Google has become a major liability
and unindicted co-conspirator. It looks like time to
killfile anything from GoogleGroups and @gmail

[Laurence Payne[_2_]]

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:24:08 -0700, "Richard Crowley"
wrote:

And since Google is implicit in the spamming, posts
from people with @gmail accounts are also highly
likely to be useless slimeball spammers, as well.

Get a clue. Google has become a major liability
and unindicted co-conspirator. It looks like time to
killfile anything from GoogleGroups and @gmail

What happened to the original idea that you could only get a gmail
account by referral from an existing member?

[Scott Dorsey]

Mike Rivers wrote:
Everything is useless for reporting Usenet spam and actually getting
anything done with it. You can have your own news server and do some
very heavy filtering like a friend of mine does. When a flood of spam
starts coming from, say China, he blocks all incoming posts from China.
Some may be legitimate, but they're an unfortunate casualty of his
personal war on spam.

ANY competently-run Usenet service will do this. Some of the bigger ones
have a whole team of people doing this.

Even a small one will run cleanfeed, which does a lot of this in an automated
manner.

Oh, an by the way, since I've been experimenting in the past few days
with using Verizon rather than Google Groups to read and post to
rec.audio.pro, it seems that the spam count in my Verizon e-mail has
gone way up. This could be a coincidence, but can someone who's good at
looking at headers take a look at this post and see if there's anything
in here that makes my Verizon address easy for a spammer to harvest?

No, your Verizon address does not appear in your header at all. It is
not possible to harvest it from your Usenet postings. Only the d-and-d
account is visible.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[AbsenceStudios]

Plenty of these addresses were used more than once. Google will probably do
nothing. I'm going to report the abuses to my ISP as well.

"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
news:UNWdnduJRfiH_ZbVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@pcez...
"AbsenceStudios" wrote ...
E-mail Address:



(long list of useless, one-time-use addresses snipped)

You're tilting at windmills.
This is a losing battle. The spammers are smarter than you.
The reason there are so many addresses on your
list is because they change them more often than
you change your underwear.
You cannot filter by sender.
Unless you just do *.gmail and./or *.cn, etc.
(both of which are good ideas, IMHO)

As someone else observed, the chances of a legitimate
English-language post from a *.cn address are practically
zero.

And since Google is implicit in the spamming, posts
from people with @gmail accounts are also highly
likely to be useless slimeball spammers, as well.

Get a clue. Google has become a major liability
and unindicted co-conspirator. It looks like time to
killfile anything from GoogleGroups and @gmail

[Paul Stamler]

And meanwhile I killfiled watches* and got two messages beginning with
"watches". ???

(OE)

Peace,
Paul

[Kevin Krell]

Mike Rivers wrote:
Oh, an by the way, since I've been experimenting in the past few days
with using Verizon rather than Google Groups to read and post to
rec.audio.pro, it seems that the spam count in my Verizon e-mail has
gone way up. This could be a coincidence, but can someone who's good at
looking at headers take a look at this post and see if there's anything
in here that makes my Verizon address easy for a spammer to harvest?

Only that Verizon.net is referenced in your headers as a possible
source. If your email address is "mrivers" over there as well, then
someone could put 2&2 together.

Kevin Krell

[Richard Crowley]

"Paul Stamler" wrote...
And meanwhile I killfiled watches* and got two messages
beginning with "watches". ???

I don't know that it uses wild-card characters ("*").
I believe that "watch" by itself will catch all forms
of the word. It seems to work that way for me.

[Philipp Wachtel[_3_]]

Mike Rivers :


Oh, an by the way, since I've been experimenting in the past few days
with using Verizon rather than Google Groups to read and post to
rec.audio.pro, it seems that the spam count in my Verizon e-mail has
gone way up. This could be a coincidence, but can someone who's good
at looking at headers take a look at this post and see if there's
anything in here that makes my Verizon address easy for a spammer to
harvest?

I´ve heard about the "trick" to put your mail-adress only in the "reply-to",
rather than using it as "from". The harvesters usually only look at the
"from" adress, but not the rest.

Works at least for me...


Phil

[[email protected]]

On 2008-04-20 said:
As someone else observed, the chances of a legitimate
English-language post from a *.cn address are practically
zero.
Never noted one in over a decade.

And since Google is implicit in the spamming, posts
from people with @gmail accounts are also highly
likely to be useless slimeball spammers, as well.
Get a clue. Google has become a major liability
and unindicted co-conspirator. It looks like time to
killfile anything from GoogleGroups and @gmail

WOuld agree, also time for responsible nntp servers to not
feed or get feeds from google.
Maybe it's time for more than killfiling, maybe it's time
for some real killing, starting with the appropriate folks
at the googleplex.
these folks have made it clear they don't care that they're
irresponsible net citizens. Maybe an uzi would wake some of
them up.



Richard webb,
replace anything before at with elspider