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question regarding beyer dynamic condenser mic mc740
beyer dynamic condenser mic
i see one of these mc740's studio condenser mics on ebay, does anyone have an opinion on them ? how they sound ? what are they worth ? thanks jim |
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beyer dynamic condenser mic One or the other - it's a condensor mic. i see one of these mc740's studio condenser mics on ebay, does anyone have an opinion on them ? how they sound ? what are they worth ? This is so that everybody who could bid against you will also know what to pay? g Google it; there has been some talk about it here in the past. I've never used one. http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en -- ha |
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Hank,
BeyerDynamic is the brand name.... -- Martin Harrington www.lendanear-sound.com "hank alrich" wrote in message ... wrote: beyer dynamic condenser mic One or the other - it's a condensor mic. i see one of these mc740's studio condenser mics on ebay, does anyone have an opinion on them ? how they sound ? what are they worth ? This is so that everybody who could bid against you will also know what to pay? g Google it; there has been some talk about it here in the past. I've never used one. http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en -- ha |
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Martin Harrington wrote:
Hank, BeyerDynamic is the brand name.... You're absolutely right; thank you, Martin. You'd think I'd realize that given how many Beyer dynamic mics I have here. g -- ha |
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I don't like that the one for sale has been dropped... but, I do
remember about 10 years ago, they were starting to get rid of them at the pro audio shops for around $900. I think they started off a few hundred more than that. Mike |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:58:44 -0500, hank alrich wrote
(in article ): Martin Harrington wrote: Hank, BeyerDynamic is the brand name.... You're absolutely right; thank you, Martin. You'd think I'd realize that given how many Beyer dynamic mics I have here. g -- ha And I thought you were just being opaquely oblique! Ty -- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric stuff are at www.tyford.com |
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A few hundred? Try $2000 list price in the lastest Swee****er catalog.
Their discounted price is $1750. later, m |
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A few hundred? Try $2000 list price in the lastest Swee****er catalog. Their discounted price is $1750. later, m Going pretty cheap used, I doubt they can get 1750 for it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3775361079 They reduced the price. The previous action at 600 got no bids. Here's one that sold for 495.00: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...2610 863&rd=1 |
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Here an MC 834 (cardioid only version) sold for 289.00:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1650 850&rd=1 |
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Jim wrote:
beyer dynamic condenser mic i see one of these mc740's studio condenser mics on ebay, does anyone have an opinion on them ? how they sound ? what are they worth ? They're bright. A couple dB brighter than an AKG 414TL-II or a TLM-103. I personally like mine, but it can occasionally be sibilant on some female vocals. If you put it in figure-8, the rear side is not quite as bright but does sound good, and I've used that to some advantage when doing male/female voiceover duet using one mic. If you look at the freq. response plots on the Beyer site, you'll see that the high end does not really change depending on polar pattern, and that is indeed the fact. Very consistent. I'd say use an MC740 anywhere you'd use a 414EB or TL-II. The proximity effect on the MC740 seems to start at a lower frequency, so it doesn't sound nearly as woofy up close as the TL-II or TLM-103. That might be due to its "medium" 20mm diaphragm, as opposed to the AKG's 25mm or the TLM's even larger diameter (27mm?). The MC740 also seems to be a bit more forgiving off-axis as well, but I have not done formal tests. The output is not as hot or clean as the AKG or TLM-103, but on the other hand noise has not been a problem, ever. The pad has occasionally come in handy, as has the 80Hz and 160Hz bass cut filter. My favorite patterns on it are hypercardioid and figure-8, but all sound good. If you need versatility in a mic, I'd choose it over a TLM-103. For one thing, the Beyer does filter out the extremely low freq. garbage such as street rumble that the 103 and TL-II pass quite happily. With it's degree of high-frequency boost, I'd think the MC740 would also be a very pleasing ORTF pair. Startlingly clear. (Altho that might be too bright for Scott or Ty.) I'd say in perfect condition, an MC740 should be worth about the same as a 414 TL-II in mint condition, about $750-$850. Make sure the grill fits snugly, or you can get some nasty distortion buildup due to RF. Incidentally, you'll need the stand clip; the Beyer shock mount is worthless, flimsy, and will not hold in position. If you find another secure shock mount that'll fit, please let me know. Fortunately, I've never genuinely needed the shock mount and the clip has been just fine. My suggestion is that you audition the new AKG 414XL-II before making a purchase. It has the same pattern selection, more bass rolloff options, and probably a somewhat tamer high end. But when you need the *brightest* mic with no midrange schmutz, the 740 is hard to beat. Jeff Jasper Jeff Jasper Productions, West Funroe, La. |
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The one for $495 is the one I bought. I think I'm going to dig it from
what little I've played with it. Just because they don't sell for much used, doesn't make it a bad mic. It might not be your cup of tea, but it's still a top notch mic from a well respected manufacturer. For $500, I'd take another...not dropped. ;-) later, m |
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That's right. It was only a $1200 mic 10+ years ago and I recall them
going on sale for under $1000. It was a little more than the AKG 414B-ULS and about the same as the AKG 414 TL. Why is the price so high now? Probably due to lack of sales. The AKG prices dropped and the Beyer went up since then. Mike wrote: A few hundred? Try $2000 list price in the lastest Swee****er catalog. Their discounted price is $1750. later, m |
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10+ years ago, what were the other German mics selling for? A TLM103?
U87? Didn't the 103 have a list price of $749 and sell for about $600-650? Now they have a list of $1300 or so and sell for a grand. later, m |
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wrote in message oups.com... 10+ years ago, what were the other German mics selling for? A TLM103? U87? Didn't the 103 have a list price of $749 and sell for about $600-650? Now they have a list of $1300 or so and sell for a grand. The TLM 103 didn't exist 10 years ago. Apart from that, you have a point. Predrag |
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mwood wrote:
10+ years ago, what were the other German mics selling for? A TLM103? U87? Didn't the 103 have a list price of $749 and sell for about $600-650? Now they have a list of $1300 or so and sell for a grand. This thing called the "exchange rate" will prove entertaining over the next few years. Add to that stout increases in the cost of petroleum products (ust about everything nowadays) and my money will be shrinking. -- ha |
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10+ years ago, what were the other German mics selling for? A TLM103? U87? Didn't the 103 have a list price of $749 and sell for about $600-650? Now they have a list of $1300 or so and sell for a grand. Yes, but compare what the Euro was worth when they first went over to it with what it's worth today. Scary, isn't it? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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It is. My day job is working for a global software distributor. I
must get 1/2 my questions from our reps trying to sell to global companies and they're all trying to purchase through the US right now. Some of them can save nearly 50% if they could just do this vs. purchasing in Europe and paying with Euros. Crazy stuff.... later, m |
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I found it for $1350 (new) at a store in Germany. At the same store,
the Neumann U-89 is $2300. I compare it to the U-89 because that is the Neumann mic which has the closest capsule and pattern design. The U-89 has been seen recently on the used market for $900-1100. So the new/used ratio holds up between these two mics despite the fact that the U89 is a much more popular microphone, though nowhere near the popularity of the U-87. Mike |
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DW Griffi wrote:
Crazy stuff indeed. There's definitely exchange rate fever goin' on out there. I just sold a whole stack of manuals for boatanchor video gear, and a couple old radios (basically parts junkers) to Europe and there was actually a bidding war going on! --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:34:40 -0800, play on
wrote: Crazy stuff indeed. There's definitely exchange rate fever goin' on out there. snip It'll get worse before it gets better, too. I dumped all my dollars and bought Euros, and am now outpacing the Dow and NASDAQ just on the exchange rate. Bush is addled brained when it comes to economics, and will probably neglect to prop up the dollar and get tough with China. Hence, the US dollar indexed to 2000 will probably be worth 40¢ by the time we get him out of there, unless there's an abrupt policy change in the White House, and Dubya hasn't got the brains needed to do that. The bad news here is that new European audio gear will skyrocket in price, and since we no longer manufacture much of anything here, all we can do is sell our old junk back to them along with some SM-57s. The cheapie end of the market, made in China, will continue to be cheap for now, since China is predatorially riding the dollar down, thus keeping shortsighted and greedy US corporations "offshoring" all their work to them, and the whole deindustrialization cycle accelerates. This will also keep scum ball retailers like Wal-Mart fat in profit...for the short term. Once China is satisfied with the level of deindustrializtion in the US, they'll float the RMB and prices for even cheap crap will skyrocket. Right about that time, double digit interest rates will return, and the resultant "stagflation" will make the Carter years look like a boom period. It ain't gonad be pretty in the US in the next few years. dB |
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DeserTBoB wrote:
The bad news here is that new European audio gear will skyrocket in price, and since we no longer manufacture much of anything here, all we can do is sell our old junk back to them along with some SM-57s. No, the SM-57 is made in Mexico now, so expect that to be going up too. The peso is pretty well tied to the dollar but not totally because Mexico does have other trading partners. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
DeserTBoB wrote: The bad news here is that new European audio gear will skyrocket in price, and since we no longer manufacture much of anything here, all we can do is sell our old junk back to them along with some SM-57s. No, the SM-57 is made in Mexico now, so expect that to be going up too. The peso is pretty well tied to the dollar but not totally because Mexico does have other trading partners. When I was just in Mexico, I saw signs of the devaluation of the $$$. |
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DeserTBoB wrote:
Crazy stuff indeed. There's definitely exchange rate fever goin' on out there. snip It'll get worse before it gets better, too. Agreed. The bad news here is that new European audio gear will skyrocket in in price Already has, between the exchange rate and last year's price increases (Schoeps and Microtech Gefell come to mind.) we no longer manufacture much of anything here, all we can do is sell our old junk back to them along with some SM-57s. Not true. It's a perfect time to buy mics from AEA, Josephson, and Royer. A good portion of the top-flight analog electronics are domestic as well. |
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Did anyone else hear the piece on NPR about how even drug dealers in
other countries are now preferring the Euro over the dollar? It's really getting bad when even the crooks don't want it. Al |
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