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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Which ones, and where in them did I go wrong? Knowing that will help me to straighten out my act. Try juggleing two wrecking balls, intead of three. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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George Middius wrote:
Did you just tell us *again* that your oft-postponed retirement from the "audio business" is now imminent? If you ever do retire (and let's not forget you've made the same announcement several times previously), that will curtail the obnoxious behavior a little. Yes, this is it, both here and in regular print. I recently purchased a blood-pressure monitor (doctor's suggestion) and have discovered that every time I sit down and correspond with you nitwits my readings climb. So, dickhead, this is it. Enjoy your audio system, such as it is. Howard Ferstler |
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Sander deWaal wrote:
Howard Ferstler said: Sure. I use dbx dynamic range enhancers and bass synthesizers with SOME pop materials and also with SOME (non DD or DTS) movie sources. I also use DSP to synthesize additional channels with two-channel sources. All sorts of options are there. What is better: a contraption where almost every parameter can be (mis) adjusted by the ignorant user or a fixed correction (like the RIAA- or NAB correction in a phono- or tape head preamp) ? But those corrections are designed to restore a dialed in equalization curve by the recording engineer (to aid in making a proper recording) to flat-response, pristine status. Your dialed-in amp diddlings are not that way at all. They intentionally color the sound and run completely counter to the need for per-channel clean performance. However, you STILL want the amps to do nothing more than amplify. Having them color all source materials in the same way is, as I noted, akin to looking through the world full time while wearing colored sun glasses. And I maintain my position that for a certain preferred sound from the entire system, a fixed correction in just one link of the chain is entirely justified. Enjoy your toys, slick. As a "professional audio clown" you should know that. Note that I am retired. Make that "retired professional audio clown", note. If you only knew. Yes, I am getting out of it. I recently started reading heavily again (librarian, remember?) and discovered just how much I had been missing since becoming an audio writer. I just finished a book published 42 years ago and not only enjoyed the hell out of it (it was an intellectual history book written by Crane Brinton) but also marveled at its excellent condition. Like new, actually. Quite in contrast to computers that go into obsolescence after four or five years. But it cannot be adjusted. And switching amps to color the sound that way sounds like an awkward way to achieve goals that should be very simple. An amp is just a link in a long chain. you accept the choices the recorcing and mastering engineer made, why not accept the choice your amp designer made, especially when you like the final result? There is no figuring the taste of the unsophisticated mind. Face it. You like toys, and toy playing is your primary goal. I must admit to liking toys, but only when they run on 250V. My primary goal is to create a reproduction of my preferred music that pleases me. Ignorance is bliss. Tell me Howard: if you could sue those tweakos for that, you'd do so, wouldn't you? ;-) No, I now realize that there is no point in hanging around with fools. Howard Ferstler |
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Sander deWaal wrote:
Mr Pierce's outlook on audio might not be so different from mine, but that's a subtlety you probably won't understand. For some reason, I agree with you. And, no, I do not care to understand in the least. After fooling with the hobby for years I have come to the conclusion that both sides, "serious" subjectivists and "serious" objectivists alike, are goofballs. It is a good group to leave behind. Howard Ferstler |
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Sander deWaal wrote:
Howard Ferstler said: PS: Thanks for the cheap shot regarding my journalistic and book-writing efforts in that other reply of yours. It certainly opened my eyes - about you. Owww......when will this wear off? ;-) Right after I submit my final post. Howard Ferstler |
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Howard Ferstler wrote: George Middius wrote: Blah, blah, blah etc STOP CROSS POSTING THIS **** TO AUS.HI-FI ! ! ! ! |
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"Margaret von B." wrote:
Howard, have you ever heard of harakiri? It is a great, honorable solution employed by the japanese. Only if they lose, pinhead. The only losers here are you guys. Howard Ferstler |
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"Margaret von B." wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Not a chance. In any case, just because Pierce thinks I am a misrepresenting troublemaker who does more harm than good I think you're trying to mislead people again, Howard. Mr. Pierce more or less said that you're an UTTER IDIOT who has accomplished NOTHING but DAMAGE in the field of audio. I assume you are his spokesperson. In any case, the hobby has gone to pot without my help, thank you. Yep, you guys STILL have to deal with him and his tool box full of brass tacks. With pleasure, Howard. Unlike you, he obviously knows what he's talking about. I wonder what his opinion is of you, slick. One can only speculate - for now. You have my deepest sympathies. Sympathies? Just because he humiliated you with his knowledge, exposed your garbage for what it is and demonstrated superior writing skills? Seems like an OK guy to me! No doubt he is glad to join you in the world of tweako audio. Congratulations to both of you. Gad, if this were true I pity the both of you. Dick really gave it to you up the ass in front of the sold out stadium, Howard. All you can do is bleed. Not really. Tweako style high end audio is bleeding more than enough as it is to satisfy me. Actually, you guys deserve each other. Pierce, who misses the target automatically and you guys who ought to be an easy target for him to work over. He treats all of you with too much kindness. Now, I think I will go read a good book and leave you nitwits to your toys. Howard Ferstler |
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George Middius wrote:
Fella said: Dick really gave it to you up the ass in front of the sold out stadium, Howard. All you can do is bleed. Why don't you guys cut the guy some slack, it's only audio ferchrissakes. It's not "only audio" for the Ferstlerian. How could you not know that? No, he is correct. It is "only audio" and that all of us (me included) have spent so much time here dealing with trivialities is more pathetic than comic. Gad, am I glad to be getting away from this madhouse. I wrote my last review article a month ago (not yet in print, but in the pipeline) and staying away from the work has allowed me to unwind decently for the first time in years. Now all I need to do is emancipate myself from this lunatic asylum you occupy on a daily basis and that is it. No more books and no more articles. I suppose that will make you happy, but your happiness is trivial compared to mine. Howard Ferstler Howard Ferstler |
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ScottW wrote:
Margaret von B. wrote: Dick really gave it to you up the ass in front of the sold out stadium, Howard. All you can do is bleed. LOL! Marge... We can see you are really desperate to explore your sexual fantasies with George which is probably in truth considered a form of masterbation, but isn't there a more appropriate group for that? ScottW Good luck to you, Scott. Frankly, I suggest you also move on and leave this group to its delusions. Howard Ferstler |
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Trevor Wilson wrote: **I am aware of the limitations (and strengths) of line source arrays. Are you aware of the advantages of some electrostatic speakers? I really cannot think of any. I suppose some people like to listen primarily in the direct field, but the Lip****z paper indicated that this is where the line-source speaker really goes to hell. Those performance parameters come at a cost (amplifier-wise). Make no mistake: Electrostatic speakers are not perfect. Far from it. They can often be comprehensively outperformed by far less expensive designs. So why purchase them? **Because they do some things better than other speakers. What things? **Coherency, for one. I am going to make this short. What does coherency mean? Certainly if the sound is coming from a line the whole line cannot be the same distance from the ears. Consequently, if anything a line source is less coherent than typical cone and dome populated systems. And planar-magnetic speakers would have the same advantages (as you indicate) as electrostatic jobs. Nope, I cannot see any advantage of the latter over the former, and I cannot see any advantage of either over good cone/dome systems. **Why? You have amply demonstrated that I can learn nothing useful from any of your books. Well, reading them would give you the opportunity to post quotes from the books and then demolish them. "On page XX Ferstler claims that people should do XXXXX, and this is patently wrong. Here's why." **If I felt the need to do that. I don't feel the need and I don't have the time. I am rather short of time, myself, which is why I have cut up this post and do not intend to respond any more. Of course, if you spent less time writing lengthy commentaries here and tried to hunt up a copy of one of my books you might actually discover that I do make some good points in them. Enjoy your work. Howard Ferstler |
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Ayn Marx wrote:
Howard Ferstler wrote: George Middius wrote: Blah, blah, blah etc STOP CROSS POSTING THIS **** TO AUS.HI-FI ! ! ! ! Your wish is my command. This is the last one from me. Good luck handling Middius. Howard Ferstler |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... "Margaret von B." wrote: "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Not a chance. In any case, just because Pierce thinks I am a misrepresenting troublemaker who does more harm than good I think you're trying to mislead people again, Howard. Mr. Pierce more or less said that you're an UTTER IDIOT who has accomplished NOTHING but DAMAGE in the field of audio. I assume you are his spokesperson. In any case, the hobby has gone to pot without my help, thank you. Yep, you guys STILL have to deal with him and his tool box full of brass tacks. With pleasure, Howard. Unlike you, he obviously knows what he's talking about. I wonder what his opinion is of you, slick. One can only speculate - for now. You have my deepest sympathies. Sympathies? Just because he humiliated you with his knowledge, exposed your garbage for what it is and demonstrated superior writing skills? Seems like an OK guy to me! No doubt he is glad to join you in the world of tweako audio. Congratulations to both of you. Gad, if this were true I pity the both of you. Dick really gave it to you up the ass in front of the sold out stadium, Howard. All you can do is bleed. Not really. Tweako style high end audio is bleeding more than enough as it is to satisfy me. Actually, you guys deserve each other. Pierce, who misses the target automatically and you guys who ought to be an easy target for him to work over. He treats all of you with too much kindness. Now, I think I will go read a good book and leave you nitwits to your toys. It is gonna be boring without you, Howard! Please don't leave us. Our flamethrowers will rust and our asskickers will collect dust. After all, what is a circus without a clown? Pretty please..... Cheers, Margaret |
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"Margaret von B." wrote:
Please don't leave us. Our flamethrowers will rust and our asskickers will collect dust. After all, what is a circus without a clown? Pretty please..... Cheers, Margaret You'll live. Howard Ferstler |
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"Margaret von B." wrote:
"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... "Margaret von B." wrote: Howard, have you ever heard of harakiri? It is a great, honorable solution employed by the japanese. Only if they lose, pinhead. The only losers here are you guys. Indeed, it will be like cable TV without the E Channel. I'd rather lose that Wittlessmongrel (sp) guy who just tries to bore us to death and that ain't fair. Cheers, Margaret PS. I'll honestly miss you, you hairy-arsed old goon :-) Go take on Pierce. Pick on somebody who will really give you grief. Howard Ferstler |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... "Margaret von B." wrote: Howard, have you ever heard of harakiri? It is a great, honorable solution employed by the japanese. Only if they lose, pinhead. The only losers here are you guys. Indeed, it will be like cable TV without the E Channel. I'd rather lose that Wittlessmongrel (sp) guy who just tries to bore us to death and that ain't fair. Cheers, Margaret PS. I'll honestly miss you, you hairy-arsed old goon :-) |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... "Margaret von B." wrote: Please don't leave us. Our flamethrowers will rust and our asskickers will collect dust. After all, what is a circus without a clown? Pretty please..... Cheers, Margaret You'll live. Ooh, just like Hemingway... Sniff Margaret |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... "Margaret von B." wrote: "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... "Margaret von B." wrote: Howard, have you ever heard of harakiri? It is a great, honorable solution employed by the japanese. Only if they lose, pinhead. The only losers here are you guys. Indeed, it will be like cable TV without the E Channel. I'd rather lose that Wittlessmongrel (sp) guy who just tries to bore us to death and that ain't fair. Cheers, Margaret PS. I'll honestly miss you, you hairy-arsed old goon :-) Go take on Pierce. Pick on somebody who will really give you grief. Why would I? Besides, you're changing the subject, Howard... .....Howard... .....HOOOOWAAAAAAAAARRRRD!!!!! Sniff Margaret |
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Brother Horace the Posturing Poseur whined: Pointing out your long history of incompetence, dishonesty and misrepresentation and the potential damage it could cause to unsuspecting readers is hardly a cheap shop. It was cheap, because you base it upon the give and take here and not my published materials. Talk about misrepresentation. Give me a break. And there you have it, folks & guys. Harold Ferstler out-and-out admits that nothing he says on Usenet should be taken seriously. So much for all the boasting about expertise with "tests" and knowledge of electronics. It's all a bunch of Clerkian bluster, not even worth the bytes it occupies in cyberspace. |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: Brother Horace the Shockingly Introspective croaked: Unfortunately, he then went on to behave like an obnoxious and insulting bully. You don't say. Can you imagine? Just because he thinks he knows something somebody else doesn't. But he does know plenty, and that is the mystery for me. He could have just set me straight with the basic information he posted (I knew I was in a pickle well before his last message, but I could not figure out how to gracefully get out of it). How about admit you had made an error? The sooner the better usually. Most the animosity comes from your refusal to admit your error. ScottW |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... I certainly do, Middius. Thank god for all of us that high-end audio is such an insignificant institution. For me, leaving the business has been notably painless and free of remorse. I miss it like I miss a toothache. Correction: You miss it like you miss your hair. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Not a chance. In any case, just because Pierce thinks I am a misrepresenting troublemaker who does more harm than good does not mean that he is in your camp. Yep, you guys STILL have to deal with him and his tool box full of brass tacks. The Ferstler toolbox: 1 Clarabelle bicycle horn 3 Lemon meringue pies 4 extra bulbous red noses 1 pair yellow and red polka dot extra large shoes 1 Fisher toy wrecking ball The mini car is parked in the garage. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... ScottW wrote: Margaret von B. wrote: Dick really gave it to you up the ass in front of the sold out stadium, Howard. All you can do is bleed. LOL! Marge... We can see you are really desperate to explore your sexual fantasies with George which is probably in truth considered a form of masterbation, but isn't there a more appropriate group for that? ScottW Good luck to you, Scott. Frankly, I suggest you also move on and leave this group to its delusions. I come and go as I please and I don't need a blood pressure monitor Honestly... all the crap aside on RAO aside I've had some very nice folks help me out over the years with some stuff, Graham, Sander, Trevor, Marc, Art among others have all gone out of their way to provide me much more than just their posts at times. We don't have to see eye to eye on everything, but starting from a basis that they have as much right to their opinion as anyone helps. Take a break and maybe you someday you can accept RAO for what it is and enjoy what it has to offer. NP: Jade Warrior Last Autumn's Dream (not available on CD) ScottW |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: Did you just tell us *again* that your oft-postponed retirement from the "audio business" is now imminent? If you ever do retire (and let's not forget you've made the same announcement several times previously), that will curtail the obnoxious behavior a little. Yes, this is it, both here and in regular print. I recently purchased a blood-pressure monitor (doctor's suggestion) and have discovered that every time I sit down and correspond with you nitwits my readings climb. So, dickhead, this is it. Enjoy your audio system, such as it is. Howard Ferstler So, in the next one hour and one minute since this post, you posted thirteen more times. Settle down, you're going to ahve a stroke. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Sander deWaal wrote: Howard Ferstler said: PS: Thanks for the cheap shot regarding my journalistic and book-writing efforts in that other reply of yours. It certainly opened my eyes - about you. Owww......when will this wear off? ;-) Right after I submit my final post. Every time you get a spanking, you go run up to your room and hide for a week or two. You'll be back. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Ayn Marx" wrote in message oups.com... Howard Ferstler wrote: George Middius wrote: Blah, blah, blah etc STOP CROSS POSTING THIS **** TO AUS.HI-FI ! ! ! ! Talk to the aus. hi fi guy who made the very first post in this thread and crossposted to RAO. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Ayn Marx wrote: Howard Ferstler wrote: George Middius wrote: Blah, blah, blah etc STOP CROSS POSTING THIS **** TO AUS.HI-FI ! ! ! ! Your wish is my command. This is the last one from me. Good luck handling Middius. Can you make your goodbyes a little shorter? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... Trevor Wilson wrote: "Howard Ferstler" wrote in message ... And if it is in parallel with a speaker load that has way, way more resistance (not to mention the additional AC impedance added) just how much current is going to be available to pass through the speaker? **I suggest you read the words written by Mr Pinkerton and Mr Pierce. Mr Pierce, in particular, has written eloquently and succinctly on this topic. I did, and they, and you are right and I was wrong. Sorry to have pulled your chain so hard, although I still disagree with you emphatically about that amp of yours, as well as about wires. Incidentally, given how I have treated you I cannot fault you for striking back hard. Also, Pinkerton's reply was to the point and quite civil, and I acknowledge that he was on the mark. Pierce was on the mark, too, and with a degree of expertise that would honor a college professor. A college professor teaching first semester electronics maybe. Really, Howard.... it was that basic. ScottW |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:54:45 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote: What would Howard do? Actually, I purchase good, reliable gear and hook it up carefully. Consequently, I have never had the problems that you seem to have encountered with your gear. NEVER? Au contraire, mon ami. |
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dave weil said: Actually, I purchase good, reliable gear and hook it up carefully. Consequently, I have never had the problems that you seem to have encountered with your gear. NEVER? Au contraire, mon ami. Harold's collection of humuidifiers and needle-nose pliers is legendary, pal. |
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Howard Ferstler said:
Not a chance. Actually, your little straw "broke the camel's back" as it relates to my situation, and for that I thank you. I have been itching to get out of the audio-writing business for a while, and after getting back into book reading (retired library clerk, remember?) I have recently remembered just how much I miss that and how much I abhor writing audio commentaries. Yeah, it was fun for a while, and it even paid a bit, but when I started to dread the deadlines and started to wince whenever I was notified that a product was on the way to be reviewed, I knew it was time to fold up my keyboard and get back to books. Thanks for delivering the final impetus to quit. I leave the audio-commentary field to you. Welcome back to the fool's paradise. Sic transit gloria mundi. -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 |
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Howard Ferstler said:
If you only knew. Yes, I am getting out of it. I recently started reading heavily again (librarian, remember?) and discovered just how much I had been missing since becoming an audio writer. I just finished a book published 42 years ago and not only enjoyed the hell out of it (it was an intellectual history book written by Crane Brinton) but also marveled at its excellent condition. Like new, actually. Quite in contrast to computers that go into obsolescence after four or five years. I know you posess at least a fraction of a sense of humour, so allow me to introduce to you the works of Guareschi, most notably the excellent series of "Don Camillo". Those stories are at least 50 years old, and if you're lucky you'll be able to pick up a first print edition somewhere at an antique books shop. Read them and watch especially the character of Peppone. -- "Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes." - Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005 |
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:53:58 +0200, Sander deWaal
wrote: Howard Ferstler said: If you only knew. Yes, I am getting out of it. I recently started reading heavily again (librarian, remember?) and discovered just how much I had been missing since becoming an audio writer. I just finished a book published 42 years ago and not only enjoyed the hell out of it (it was an intellectual history book written by Crane Brinton) but also marveled at its excellent condition. Like new, actually. Quite in contrast to computers that go into obsolescence after four or five years. I know you posess at least a fraction of a sense of humour, so allow me to introduce to you the works of Guareschi, most notably the excellent series of "Don Camillo". Those stories are at least 50 years old, and if you're lucky you'll be able to pick up a first print edition somewhere at an antique books shop. Read them and watch especially the character of Peppone. I have the Don Camillo Omnibus, and Peppone does seem a lot like Hiddius! :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Pukey Trollerton invites a reaming. Read them and watch especially the character of Peppone. I have the Don Camillo Omnibus, and Peppone does seem a lot like Hiddius! :-) For somebody who's a drunken version of Shrek, Stinky, you don't stand on the firmest ground from which to launch literary assaults. |
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On 26 Jul 2005 12:18:57 -0700, George Middius
wrote: Pukey Trollerton invites a reaming. Read them and watch especially the character of Peppone. I have the Don Camillo Omnibus, and Peppone does seem a lot like Hiddius! :-) For somebody who's a drunken version of Shrek, Stinky, you don't stand on the firmest ground from which to launch literary assaults. Thanks for making the point................ -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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