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XM Radio Entering the Audiophile Arena?
There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned
entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Bruce J. Richman |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. On the same order as a good MP3, maybe a little worse. IOW stunningly better than cassette, and somewhat more noise and distortion free than vinyl. |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. You mean at http://www.stereophile.com/news/082304xm/ Interesting article. The hardware offerings seem to follow a pattern that we've seen with high-end CD players. The majority of the signal-handling equipment appears to be the same chipset and circuitry as the commodity recievers. This makes sense because that is where the vast majority of the technology and innovation can be found. A high-end veneer composed of "Burr/Brown DACs; a signal-boosting preamp section with 104dB S/N; and discrete PCBs for its power supply, display, connector module, and audio boards" This neatly obfuscates the fact that the major technological factor that limits sound quality is the perceptual coding and signal processing that makes the XM format possible. You can have the best DACs in the world, but if the analog signal you are reconstructing was lossy-compressed until the figurative eagle grinned, its gonna sound like what its gonna sound like! |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:58:18 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: You can have the best DACs in the world, but if the analog signal you are reconstructing was lossy-compressed until the figurative eagle grinned, its gonna sound like what its gonna sound like! That's the audio version of what I was talking about regarding satellite video reception. There's a lot of really compressed stuff going out on the consumer satellite airwaves right now, *including* network stuff like The West Wing, which has a lot of banding and shifting and "melting" faces. However, it seems to be content-based, and I don't remember such artifacts in general on cable (at least not to the extent that I'm seeing it now). Some of the programming seems unaffected, so it's not necessarily an indictment on the broadcasting system. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. On the same order as a good MP3, maybe a little worse. IOW stunningly better than cassette, and somewhat more noise and distortion free than vinyl. AFA Sirius, like a mediocre mp3, worse than vinyl or well made home recorded cassette, better than prerecorded cassette. |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. Hi Bruce! I'm afraid it will be pointless. The streams are too compressed to benefit from a high end unit. The Sirius Audiovox and XM Delphi receivers are plenty good for the source material. But then again, Polk is not exactly high end either... I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Bruce J. Richman I have a Sirius in my Navigator and the Audiovox unit and the boombox in my house. I also had a XM in my H2, but I discontinued the service. This is my take on them. Reception: XM wins hands down when the going gets tough. However, most of the time both work just fine. With the terresrial transmitters in San Antonio, the Sirius never craps out in my house. Sound quality: Depends heavily on the stream. Sirius varies more and has the best sounding streams but it also has some of the worst ones. Overall, the quality is something like a MP3 you can download from KaZaa. Not all that great but passable for cars and background. But if you listen through, say, Martin-Logan Prodigys, you'll soon realize how bad it is. For some reason Mackie HR824 monitors make it fairly listenable in my office. But no deep bass, severely limited dynamics, 2D image and hashy treble is what you can expect if you listen critically. Thankfully the music streams sound a lot better in general than the other streams. Programming: I cannot deal with trailerpark trash right wing talk radio. KTSA and WOAI already fill our local airwaves with it. Therefore, discontinuing the XM in my H2 was inevitable. Although it could be argued that their music content is at least as good as Sirius. But if you're a die hard republican, XM's the way to go. Hope this helps. Margaret |
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"Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote in message ... "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. Hi Bruce! I'm afraid it will be pointless. The streams are too compressed to benefit from a high end unit. The Sirius Audiovox and XM Delphi receivers are plenty good for the source material. But then again, Polk is not exactly high end either... I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Bruce J. Richman I have a Sirius in my Navigator and the Audiovox unit and the boombox in my house. I also had a XM in my H2, but I discontinued the service. This is my take on them. Reception: XM wins hands down when the going gets tough. However, most of the time both work just fine. With the terresrial transmitters in San Antonio, the Sirius never craps out in my house. Sound quality: Depends heavily on the stream. Sirius varies more and has the best sounding streams but it also has some of the worst ones. Overall, the quality is something like a MP3 you can download from KaZaa. Not all that great but passable for cars and background. But if you listen through, say, Martin-Logan Prodigys, you'll soon realize how bad it is. For some reason Mackie HR824 monitors make it fairly listenable in my office. But no deep bass, severely limited dynamics, 2D image and hashy treble is what you can expect if you listen critically. Thankfully the music streams sound a lot better in general than the other streams. The news and talk radio sounds like it was recorded off of a telephone. "At least" they allocate their bandwith using some common sense. |
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Hi Margaret:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. Hi Bruce! I'm afraid it will be pointless. The streams are too compressed to benefit from a high end unit. The Sirius Audiovox and XM Delphi receivers are plenty good for the source material. But then again, Polk is not exactly high end either... I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Bruce J. Richman I have a Sirius in my Navigator and the Audiovox unit and the boombox in my house. I also had a XM in my H2, but I discontinued the service. This is my take on them. Reception: XM wins hands down when the going gets tough. However, most of the time both work just fine. With the terresrial transmitters in San Antonio, the Sirius never craps out in my house. Sound quality: Depends heavily on the stream. Sirius varies more and has the best sounding streams but it also has some of the worst ones. Overall, the quality is something like a MP3 you can download from KaZaa. Not all that great but passable for cars and background. But if you listen through, say, Martin-Logan Prodigys, you'll soon realize how bad it is. Hmmmm. Martin-Logans, yes, but not Prodigys. (CLS IIs). But the results will be very similar, I suspect. That's discouraging.. I like the idea of a lot of different types of music, and the opportunity to audition stuff I wouldn't otherwise buy sound unheard so to speak. For some reason Mackie HR824 monitors make it fairly listenable in my office. But no deep bass, severely limited dynamics, 2D image and hashy treble is what you can expect if you listen critically. Thankfully the music streams sound a lot better in general than the other streams. Programming: I cannot deal with trailerpark trash right wing talk radio. KTSA and WOAI already fill our local airwaves with it. Therefore, discontinuing the XM in my H2 was inevitable. Although it could be argued that their music content is at least as good as Sirius. But if you're a die hard republican, XM's the way to go. I suspect our political views are very similar. Here in South Florida, one of the major AM stations (WRMF), just changed from an all sports-talk format to an Air America format, so I'm able to hear the "O'Franken Factor" (that's what he used to call it to tick off O'Reilly), Randi Rhodes, and the other members of liberal radio. That's a nice counterbalance to the bombast of Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. Aside from the music channels, I'm intrigued by the selection of comedy channels, since I collect comedy records from most of the better known comedians. Hope this helps. Margaret Thanks for your comments. Bruce J. Richman |
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dave weil wrote: That's the audio version of what I was talking about regarding satellite video reception. There's a lot of really compressed stuff going out on the consumer satellite airwaves right now, *including* network stuff like The West Wing, which has a lot of banding and shifting and "melting" faces. However, it seems to be content-based, and I don't remember such artifacts in general on cable (at least not to the extent that I'm seeing it now). Have you used digital cable? On digital channels (not all are transmitted digitally), the same problems crop up. -- Matthew Weigel the email address is real the contents of the post are not |
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Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:16:49 -0500, Matthew Weigel
wrote: In article , dave weil wrote: That's the audio version of what I was talking about regarding satellite video reception. There's a lot of really compressed stuff going out on the consumer satellite airwaves right now, *including* network stuff like The West Wing, which has a lot of banding and shifting and "melting" faces. However, it seems to be content-based, and I don't remember such artifacts in general on cable (at least not to the extent that I'm seeing it now). Have you used digital cable? On digital channels (not all are transmitted digitally), the same problems crop up. Yes, my previous system was digital cable. But it was almost a year ago, so I can't say for certain that I didn't see the same level of problems. I just don't remember it being so noticable. Also, it didn't utilize a DVR receiver either. I suspect that the DVR makes a difference as well. |
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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. |
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Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. |
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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message hlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. And how does the FM antenna address the problem of overprocessed and compressed to death FM broadcast that is typical of 90 percent of the stations? Inquiring minds want to know. Margaret PS. When are you gonna get clue, Dear Joseph? |
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Margaret wrote:
"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. And how does the FM antenna address the problem of overprocessed and compressed to death FM broadcast that is typical of 90 percent of the stations? Inquiring minds want to know. Margaret PS. When are you gonna get clue, Dear Joseph? Once one accepts the fact that both satellite radio and FM broadcasts are compromised by technical problems in transmissions, other variables become more important. Satellite radio obviously has the advantage of many more choices and diversity available to listeners. And unlike many FM broadcasts, you actually know what's playing via the text readouts. All in all, a good way to explore different types of music, especially for those that believe there is a world beyond the latest Billboad Top Rock album lists. And it's also useful for those that might light to sample some humor to lighten their moods . (Comedy channels, etc.); About the only useful humor my local radio channels have are Phil Hendrie and Howard Stern. (and Howard can get boring if one listens to often). XM Radio should make a deal with Phil Hendrie, however. His "characters" are sometmies hilarious. A very clever show. Bruce J. Richman |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Margaret wrote: snip Once one accepts the fact that both satellite radio and FM broadcasts are compromised by technical problems in transmissions, other variables become more important. Satellite radio obviously has the advantage of many more choices and diversity available to listeners. And unlike many FM broadcasts, you actually know what's playing via the text readouts. All in all, a good way to explore different types of music, especially for those that believe there is a world beyond the latest Billboad Top Rock album lists. And it's also useful for those that might light to sample some humor to lighten their moods . (Comedy channels, etc.); About the only useful humor my local radio channels have are Phil Hendrie and Howard Stern. (and Howard can get boring if one listens to often). XM Radio should make a deal with Phil Hendrie, however. His "characters" are sometmies hilarious. A very clever show. Bruce J. Richman Hi Bruce! Here in South/Central TX we have neither these days. Stern used to be in Austin but was replaced a few years ago with copycats Dudley & Bob. F***ing Dudley and f***ing Bob! I'm not kidding either. Dudley even tries to look and sound like Howard...at a fraction of the cost. Of course Howard was -famously- kicked out of Dallas too this summer due to his Bush comments by Lawry Mays and his children who single handedly run Clearchannel. Clearchannel's flagship station WOAI AM 1200 amusingly imploded big time in San Antonio this year. Not only did they swap their top rated drive time show to a total bore from Oklahoma but they also did away with Phil. His replacement is the great white hope Hannity (sp?). I loved Hendrie at times, especially Ted Bell, Steve Bozell, Bobbie Dooley and Vernon Dozier. My sister says I'm a lot like Bobbie...that bitch! I actually fixed this Hendrie situation by an elaborate MW antenna/noise supression/Drake R8B receiver setup that allows me to pull in Phil from KKTX AM 1360 in Corpus Christi about 150 miles south. Phil should just stick to the satire and stop preaching - his characters are so much wittier than he is. But I suppose that CC insists on some propaganda in order to keep him employed. You do have a good taste in talk radio, Bruce! Cheers, Margaret |
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Margaret wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Margaret wrote: snip Once one accepts the fact that both satellite radio and FM broadcasts are compromised by technical problems in transmissions, other variables become more important. Satellite radio obviously has the advantage of many more choices and diversity available to listeners. And unlike many FM broadcasts, you actually know what's playing via the text readouts. All in all, a good way to explore different types of music, especially for those that believe there is a world beyond the latest Billboad Top Rock album lists. And it's also useful for those that might light to sample some humor to lighten their moods . (Comedy channels, etc.); About the only useful humor my local radio channels have are Phil Hendrie and Howard Stern. (and Howard can get boring if one listens to often). XM Radio should make a deal with Phil Hendrie, however. His "characters" are sometmies hilarious. A very clever show. Bruce J. Richman Hi Bruce! Here in South/Central TX we have neither these days. Stern used to be in Austin but was replaced a few years ago with copycats Dudley & Bob. F***ing Dudley and f***ing Bob! I'm not kidding either. Dudley even tries to look and sound like Howard...at a fraction of the cost. Of course Howard was -famously- kicked out of Dallas too this summer due to his Bush comments by Lawry Mays and his children who single handedly run Clearchannel. Clearchannel's flagship station WOAI AM 1200 amusingly imploded big time in San Antonio this year. Not only did they swap their top rated drive time show to a total bore from Oklahoma but they also did away with Phil. His replacement is the great white hope Hannity (sp?). I loved Hendrie at times, especially Ted Bell, Steve Bozell, Bobbie Dooley and Vernon Dozier. My sister says I'm a lot like Bobbie...that bitch! I actually fixed this Hendrie situation by an elaborate MW antenna/noise supression/Drake R8B receiver setup that allows me to pull in Phil from KKTX AM 1360 in Corpus Christi about 150 miles south. Phil should just stick to the satire and stop preaching - his characters are so much wittier than he is. But I suppose that CC insists on some propaganda in order to keep him employed. You do have a good taste in talk radio, Bruce! Cheers, Margaret Thanks, Margaret. I first got introduced to Hendrie's act before he hit it big in California. He actually was employed by one of the Miami radio stations for a while and they stupidly let him go after about 2 years. The rest is history. As for Howard, we had the same experience with Clear Channel here in South Florida. They canned him also. But he's just now coming back on a non-Clear Channel outlet. Between that and one of our stations now broadcasting the Air America lineup, there's some light at the end of the tunnel. Bruce J. Richman |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:50:59 GMT, Joseph Oberlander
wrote: Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. We now have Sirius channels in addition to the old music channels on Dish Network and there are some really good channels on there. My current favorite is called "American Garage" or something like that. It's programmed by Steven Van Zandt of Springsteen and Sopranos fame. Really great selection of tunes. It's sort of "garage rock", but he throws other things in as well - it's not *all* lo-fi, revivalist, or protopunk. There are other speciality channels that I've enjoyed as well. The neat thing is that I'm hearing a lot of bands that I've either never heard of, or have been wanting to hear, bands like Cotton Mather and The Insomniacs. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I agree that these channels *are* genre channels and I like the variety of a good college station, but unfortunately not everyone has one of those in their neighborhood. Our local Vanderbilt station has some good shows WHEN IT'S ON THE AIR, which seems less often than when it's off the air. The sound quality of the Dish channels seems "acceptable" in the same way that a good FM signal is "acceptable". |
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"Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote: Here in South/Central TX we have neither these days. Stern used to be in Austin but was replaced a few years ago with copycats Dudley & Bob. F***ing Dudley and f***ing Bob! I'm not kidding either. Dudley even tries to look and sound like Howard...at a fraction of the cost. Dudley's been on the air for fifteen years. Stern was on a different channel. You're welcome to your opinion of Dudley, Bob and co. http://www.dudleyandbobshow.com/ Stephen |
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In article , "Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote: Here in South/Central TX we have neither these days. Stern used to be in Austin but was replaced a few years ago with copycats Dudley & Bob. F***ing Dudley and f***ing Bob! I'm not kidding either. Dudley even tries to look and sound like Howard...at a fraction of the cost. Dudley's been on the air for fifteen years. Stern was on a different channel. You're welcome to your opinion of Dudley, Bob and co. http://www.dudleyandbobshow.com/ Stephen I can't comment on Austin's local show since it's not available elsewhere AFAIK. But for Margaret, myself, and others that appreciate creative humor, XM Radio has signed up Phil Hendrie - a good reason to support them. http://www.philhendrieshow.com And on TV, check out the Comedy Channel's 2 best shows - Carnk Yankers and the Dave Chapelle show. The former has a character called "Special Ed" who always reminds me of 2 of RAO's more, er............ limited........posters. Also, Birchum, the Viet Nam veteran is a hoot. If I knew the telephone numbers of some of RAO's regulars, I wouldn't mind submitting them to the writers at Crank Yankers. Chappelle is just over the top IMHO, in the same way that the Wayans brothers used to be on In Living Color. (Remember Homie D. Clown?) Bruce J. Richman |
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Stephen wrote:
In article , (Bruce J. Richman) wrote: Chappelle is just over the top IMHO, in the same way that the Wayans brothers used to be on In Living Color. (Remember Homie D. Clown?) "Homie don't play that!"? Last I heard of Chappelle was the effect he had on the recent news about Rick James. Stephen He did do a pretty funny (and maybe accurate) impersonation of Rick James. He also has a pretty outrageous sketch, in which, not realizing that he is black because he's blind, he goes to Klu KIux Klan meetings in his sheet and hood, and rants and raves about "white power"! Bruce J. Richman |
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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message hlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. |
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Clyde wrote:
"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. Have they played the "Bourgeois Blues", as done by Ry Cooder? (Highly recommended LP = Chicken Skin Music). Bruce J. Richman |
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"MINe 109" wrote in message ... In article , "Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote: Here in South/Central TX we have neither these days. Stern used to be in Austin but was replaced a few years ago with copycats Dudley & Bob. F***ing Dudley and f***ing Bob! I'm not kidding either. Dudley even tries to look and sound like Howard...at a fraction of the cost. Dudley's been on the air for fifteen years. Stern was on a different channel. You're welcome to your opinion of Dudley, Bob and co. http://www.dudleyandbobshow.com/ Stephen Hello Stephen! I'm sorry if I offended you as a Dudley fan. I suppose I had heard before about his long tenure in Austin. I just think his "Howard on Prozac" act is very unoriginal and was purposely designed to fill the void in Howard's absence. However, a friend from Austin just e-mailed me that Howard is back in Austin! Supposed to be 104.3 FM KQBT. Do you know if this is true? I better put my antenna rotator to work one of these mornings and see how the reception is. Cheers, Margaret |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Stephen wrote: In article , "Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote: Here in South/Central TX we have neither these days. Stern used to be in Austin but was replaced a few years ago with copycats Dudley & Bob. F***ing Dudley and f***ing Bob! I'm not kidding either. Dudley even tries to look and sound like Howard...at a fraction of the cost. Dudley's been on the air for fifteen years. Stern was on a different channel. You're welcome to your opinion of Dudley, Bob and co. http://www.dudleyandbobshow.com/ Stephen I can't comment on Austin's local show since it's not available elsewhere AFAIK. But for Margaret, myself, and others that appreciate creative humor, XM Radio has signed up Phil Hendrie - a good reason to support them. http://www.philhendrieshow.com Hendrie is the reason I kept XM for a few months after I bought my car. Of course putting up $700 worth of antennas and noise reduction in order to save $10/month with XM is also pretty questionable economics! But of course my MW setup has plenty of other uses as well. And on TV, check out the Comedy Channel's 2 best shows - Carnk Yankers and the Dave Chapelle show. Chapelle just got $50 million deal for 2 years with Comedy Central. Many people obviously agree with you! The former has a character called "Special Ed" who always reminds me of 2 of RAO's more, er............ limited........posters. Also, Birchum, the Viet Nam veteran is a hoot. If I knew the telephone numbers of some of RAO's regulars, I wouldn't mind submitting them to the writers at Crank Yankers. Chappelle is just over the top IMHO, in the same way that the Wayans brothers used to be on In Living Color. (Remember Homie D. Clown?) Ferstler would make a hilarious real life character for Hendrie - better than some of his imaginary ones. Besides the deal would finally allow Howard to acquire a real "system". Cheers, Margaret |
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"Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote: Hello Stephen! I'm sorry if I offended you as a Dudley fan. I suppose I had heard before about his long tenure in Austin. I just think his "Howard on Prozac" act is very unoriginal and was purposely designed to fill the void in Howard's absence. However, a friend from Austin just e-mailed me that Howard is back in Austin! Supposed to be 104.3 FM KQBT. Do you know if this is true? I better put my antenna rotator to work one of these mornings and see how the reception is. Austin radio is in constant flux, but that's a new one to me. Here's a discussion: http://tinyurl.com/3p3fa The ESPN to salsa change is typically surprising. The one I've noticed is 103.5's change from some brand of oldies (white) to "Bob FM". Oddly, although I assume the signal is compressed and eq'd, the sound quality works well in my car. Go figure. The other squashed and squawking stations still sound bad. The Dudley show is least successful in its Howard-derived antics: studio stripper visits, etc. There was an unexpected shout-out during an SNL "Brian Fellows" sketch when the 'guest,' Horation Sanz, identified himself as "Dale Dudley". There's a third wheel I like. Think of the redneck neighbor in "Office Space". Stephen |
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MINe 109 wrote: In article , "Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote: Here in South/Central TX we have neither these days. Stern used to be in Austin but was replaced a few years ago with copycats Dudley & Bob. F***ing Dudley and f***ing Bob! I'm not kidding either. Dudley even tries to look and sound like Howard...at a fraction of the cost. Dudley's been on the air for fifteen years. Stern was on a different channel. A non-Clear Channel channel, it's worth noting. I prefer D&B, personally. You're welcome to your opinion of Dudley, Bob and co. http://www.dudleyandbobshow.com/ For interested people, I'm pretty sure there's an audio stream off www.klbjfm.com. You can at least compare them with Stern. -- Matthew Weigel the email address is real the contents of the post are not |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. Have they played the "Bourgeois Blues", as done by Ry Cooder? (Highly recommended LP = Chicken Skin Music). Hmm, was that on Into the Purple Valley? I got a few copies of the Chicken Skin Muisc LP I also recommend Jazz |
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"MINe 109" wrote in message ... In article , "Margaret von Busenhalter-Butt" wrote: Hello Stephen! I'm sorry if I offended you as a Dudley fan. I suppose I had heard before about his long tenure in Austin. I just think his "Howard on Prozac" act is very unoriginal and was purposely designed to fill the void in Howard's absence. However, a friend from Austin just e-mailed me that Howard is back in Austin! Supposed to be 104.3 FM KQBT. Do you know if this is true? I better put my antenna rotator to work one of these mornings and see how the reception is. Austin radio is in constant flux, but that's a new one to me. Here's a discussion: http://tinyurl.com/3p3fa The ESPN to salsa change is typically surprising. The one I've noticed is 103.5's change from some brand of oldies (white) to "Bob FM". Oddly, although I assume the signal is compressed and eq'd, the sound quality works well in my car. Go figure. The other squashed and squawking stations still sound bad. The Dudley show is least successful in its Howard-derived antics: studio stripper visits, etc. There was an unexpected shout-out during an SNL "Brian Fellows" sketch when the 'guest,' Horation Sanz, identified himself as "Dale Dudley". There's a third wheel I like. Think of the redneck neighbor in "Office Space". Milton reminds me of Howie. |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. Have they played the "Bourgeois Blues", as done by Ry Cooder? (Highly recommended LP = Chicken Skin Music). Hmm, was that on Into the Purple Valley? Nope. It's on the Chicken Skin music album. I got a few copies of the Chicken Skin Muisc LP I also recommend Jazz Jazz is excellent. Cooder is one of those all too few very creative arrangers and musicians. If you like blues, you should definitely get a copy of the soundtrack from "Crossroads" (the movie based on the life of Robert Johnston). The score was written by Cooder, and the sonic quality is really amazing. This was justifiably listed as one of Stereophile's "Records to Die For" several years ago. Another great Cooder soundtrack is "The Border" (the music has a definite tex-mex influence). Bruce J. Richman |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. Have they played the "Bourgeois Blues", as done by Ry Cooder? (Highly recommended LP = Chicken Skin Music). Hmm, was that on Into the Purple Valley? Nope. It's on the Chicken Skin music album. I got a few copies of the Chicken Skin Muisc LP I also recommend Jazz Jazz is excellent. Cooder is one of those all too few very creative arrangers and musicians. If you like blues, you should definitely get a copy of the soundtrack from "Crossroads" (the movie based on the life of Robert Johnston). The score was written by Cooder, and the sonic quality is really amazing. This was justifiably listed as one of Stereophile's "Records to Die For" several years ago. Another great Cooder soundtrack is "The Border" (the music has a definite tex-mex influence). Bruce J. Richman |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. Have they played the "Bourgeois Blues", as done by Ry Cooder? (Highly recommended LP = Chicken Skin Music). Hmm, was that on Into the Purple Valley? Nope. It's on the Chicken Skin music album. I got a few copies of the Chicken Skin Muisc LP I also recommend Jazz Jazz is excellent. Cooder is one of those all too few very creative arrangers and musicians. If you like blues, you should definitely get a copy of the soundtrack from "Crossroads" (the movie based on the life of Robert Johnston). The score was written by Cooder, and the sonic quality is really amazing. This was justifiably listed as one of Stereophile's "Records to Die For" several years ago. Another great Cooder soundtrack is "The Border" (the music has a definite tex-mex influence). Wow, Crossroads is about the only Cooder album I didn't fall for Others I like are Get Rhythm and Boomer's Story and, of course, the first self titled album Have you heard Sundazed Records release of The Rising Sons?? A band with Cooder and Taj Mahal, before their solo careers. Uneven, but some good stuff like Divin' Duck Blues. (Sleepy John Estes) Cooder is also on Taj's first |
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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. Have they played the "Bourgeois Blues", as done by Ry Cooder? (Highly recommended LP = Chicken Skin Music). Hmm, was that on Into the Purple Valley? Nope. It's on the Chicken Skin music album. I got a few copies of the Chicken Skin Muisc LP I also recommend Jazz Jazz is excellent. Cooder is one of those all too few very creative arrangers and musicians. If you like blues, you should definitely get a copy of the soundtrack from "Crossroads" (the movie based on the life of Robert Johnston). The score was written by Cooder, and the sonic quality is really amazing. This was justifiably listed as one of Stereophile's "Records to Die For" several years ago. Another great Cooder soundtrack is "The Border" (the music has a definite tex-mex influence). Wow, Crossroads is about the only Cooder album I didn't fall for Well, there *is* a great blues singer named Terry Evans on the Crossroads album, singing a song called "Down In Mississipi". There is alao an Auidioquest heavy vinyl album by Terry Evans called "Puttin' It Down" that has some great sounding (and performed) blues. Another Audioquest LP worth finding is Mighty Sam McClain's "Give It Up To Love":. Others I like are Get Rhythm and Boomer's Story and, of course, the first self titled album I have most of Cooder's albums, but not Boomer's Story. Have you heard Sundazed Records release of The Rising Sons?? A band with Cooder and Taj Mahal, before their solo careers. Uneven, but some good stuff like Divin' Duck Blues. (Sleepy John Estes) Cooder is also on Taj's first I haven't heard it, but have heard some good things about Sundazed reissues in general. I haven't as yet tried any, however. Bruce J. Richman |
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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde Slick wrote: "Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message ... Clyde wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message thlink.net... Clyde Slick wrote: "Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message link.net... Bruce J. Richman wrote: There's an interesting news report re. XM Radio's latest offerings and planned entry into audio hobbyist territory in the latest Stereophile website updates. Polk Audio is apparently planning to introduce an XM Receiver suitable for use in component systems. I'm considering future use of an XM Radio receiver in a variety of locations (car, computer desk, home). I'd be interested in any comments about both the sound quality and especially the reception with both inside and outside use of their antennas. Wonderful AM stereo quality muzak 24/7 times a hundred channels. I think I'll pass on this marvel of technology. muzak?? except for some self promotion, its more like FM without advertising. It's the same few hundred genre-locked canned songs per channel. Listen to the muzak channels on the cable box - it gets old fast. The local FM stations - they can play rock one minute and an old classic blues piece another and then something thrash-punk the next. And they sound better, especially in a home system, where you're a fool if you can't manage to put a nice FM antenna in. I listen to the blues channel, and I have yet to hear a repeat. Have they played the "Bourgeois Blues", as done by Ry Cooder? (Highly recommended LP = Chicken Skin Music). Hmm, was that on Into the Purple Valley? Nope. It's on the Chicken Skin music album. I got a few copies of the Chicken Skin Muisc LP I also recommend Jazz Jazz is excellent. Cooder is one of those all too few very creative arrangers and musicians. If you like blues, you should definitely get a copy of the soundtrack from "Crossroads" (the movie based on the life of Robert Johnston). The score was written by Cooder, and the sonic quality is really amazing. This was justifiably listed as one of Stereophile's "Records to Die For" several years ago. Another great Cooder soundtrack is "The Border" (the music has a definite tex-mex influence). Wow, Crossroads is about the only Cooder album I didn't fall for Well, there *is* a great blues singer named Terry Evans on the Crossroads album, singing a song called "Down In Mississipi". There is alao an Auidioquest heavy vinyl album by Terry Evans called "Puttin' It Down" that has some great sounding (and performed) blues. Another Audioquest LP worth finding is Mighty Sam McClain's "Give It Up To Love":. Bobby King and Terry Evans often backed up Ry Cooder They did two duo albums on Rounder (cd) and on LP, it might have been on Linn I have the Terry Evans solo album Blues for Thought on cd, on Point Blank Others I like are Get Rhythm and Boomer's Story and, of course, the first self titled album I have most of Cooder's albums, but not Boomer's Story. Have you heard Sundazed Records release of The Rising Sons?? A band with Cooder and Taj Mahal, before their solo careers. Uneven, but some good stuff like Divin' Duck Blues. (Sleepy John Estes) Cooder is also on Taj's first I haven't heard it, but have heard some good things about Sundazed reissues in general. I haven't as yet tried any, however. That album is not quite a reisse, it never was issued at all, originally I like all of my Sundazed reissues, and they are pretty cheap, too, under $10 |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote: "MINe 109" wrote in message ... Dudley and Bob There's a third wheel I like. Think of the redneck neighbor in "Office Space". Milton reminds me of Howie. Stephen Root will play him in the movie. I thought there was Dale Dribble here, too, but I was wrong... Stephen |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:13:31 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote: Bobby King and Terry Evans often backed up Ry Cooder They did two duo albums on Rounder (cd) and on LP, it might have been on Linn LP on Rounder 2089: Evans and King's Live and Let Live. Produced by Cooder who appears on all the tracks. Kal |
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"Kalman Rubinson" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:13:31 -0400, "Clyde Slick" wrote: Bobby King and Terry Evans often backed up Ry Cooder They did two duo albums on Rounder (cd) and on LP, it might have been on Linn LP on Rounder 2089: Evans and King's Live and Let Live. Produced by Cooder who appears on all the tracks. and Rhythm, Blues Soul and Grooves |
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Kal Rubinson wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:13:31 -0400, "Clyde Slick" wrote: Bobby King and Terry Evans often backed up Ry Cooder They did two duo albums on Rounder (cd) and on LP, it might have been on Linn LP on Rounder 2089: Evans and King's Live and Let Live. Produced by Cooder who appears on all the tracks. Kal The "Live and Let Live" album also comes in a "Linn Selekt Records" version , under license from Rounder Records on the Special Delivery label. (Special Delivery SPD 1016). Either way, it's a great album. ! Bruce J. Richman |
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