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The Charts and 1-Hit Wonders
Perhaps because the names of only a few one-hitters stick in my mind, I
never realized these stats: http://digitalmusicnews.com/permalin...120311charting -- shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/ http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic http://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShaidri |
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hank alrich wrote:
Perhaps because the names of only a few one-hitters stick in my mind, I never realized these stats: http://digitalmusicnews.com/permalin...120311charting Is there a histogram somewhere of number of hits for all who charted? Be interesting to see how that works. Bet it's a power law. -- Les Cargill |
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On Mar 13, 1:27*pm, (hank alrich) wrote:
Perhaps because the names of only a few one-hitters stick in my mind, I never realized these stats: Makes an already gloomy prospect even gloomier for those aspiring to be "pop stars". Even if you make it to the Impossible Dream and have a charting hit, odds are it won't last. Wonder if there's a clearly identifiable difference between the one- hitters and those who have lengthier careers. It certainly isn't always talent - think Madonna and Britney Spears. |
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On Mar 14, 12:20*pm, muzician21 wrote:
Wonder if there's a clearly identifiable difference between the one- hitters and those who have lengthier careers. It certainly isn't always talent - think Madonna and Britney Spears. Fitting into the industry machine helps. (And that does take talent). Connecting with ordinary people. Timing. |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:20:12 -0700, muzician21 wrote
(in article ): Wonder if there's a clearly identifiable difference between the one- hitters and those who have lengthier careers. It certainly isn't always talent - think Madonna and Britney Spears. ------------------------------snip------------------------------ The other interesting stat: it's a rare musician or group who can sustain a career for more than 4 or 5 years. Even more rare when an artist like Paul McCartney, Cher, or Elton John (there's an interesting trilogy) who can keep having a major music career for four decades or more. These stats have been presented in Joel Whitburn's RECORD RESEARCH books for many years: http://www.recordresearch.com/ Note that this only accounts for the BILLBOARD statistics alone. There's a lot of other ways to assess musical success or historical importance; for example, artists like Neil Diamond and Barbra Streisand still sell a lot of albums and do well in live performances, but haven't had bona fide Top 40 hits in years. So the pop charts alone don't tell the whole story. Note also that BILLBOARD magazine is in terrible trouble. I believe they recently jettisoned a good chunk of their staff, including their editor and publisher: http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-...tor-out-other- top-staffers-follow-36116 --MFW |
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 02:46:39 -0700, against all advice, something
compelled Marc Wielage , to say: Note also that BILLBOARD magazine is in terrible trouble. Are people scouring the interwebs looking for music they like, as opposed to taking whatever crap Teh Top Fwarty says they should like? -- I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude. Andy Rooney |
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:11:21 -0700, Steve Daniels wrote
(in article ): Are people scouring the interwebs looking for music they like, as opposed to taking whatever crap Teh Top Fwarty says they should like? ------------------------------snip------------------------------ I think the death of mass-market CD stores and the downward-spiral of radio ratings, plus the awful economy, has taken its toll on a lot businesses. Especially Music and Radio. It's scary to reflect that right now, if you can sell 5000 albums in one week, that's enough to put you on the BILLBOARD Top 200. That used to be considered a flop. I seem to recall a few months ago where a #1 album only sold about 60,000 copies, which is stunningly low compared to where things used to be. The economy sucks. --MFW |
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Marc Wielage wrote: On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:11:21 -0700, Steve Daniels wrote (in article ): Are people scouring the interwebs looking for music they like, as opposed to taking whatever crap Teh Top Fwarty says they should like? ------------------------------snip------------------------------ I think the death of mass-market CD stores and the downward-spiral of radio ratings, plus the awful economy, has taken its toll on a lot businesses. Especially Music and Radio. It's scary to reflect that right now, if you can sell 5000 albums in one week, that's enough to put you on the BILLBOARD Top 200. That used to be considered a flop. I seem to recall a few months ago where a #1 album only sold about 60,000 copies, which is stunningly low compared to where things used to be. The economy sucks. --MFW There are still a few CD shops around, generally the better ones have survived. I ordered a triple CD Leonard Cohen set the other day. MJRB |
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On Mar 13, 5:27*pm, (hank alrich) wrote:
Perhaps because the names of only a few one-hitters stick in my mind, I never realized these stats: http://digitalmusicnews.com/permalin...120311charting -- shut up and play your guitar *http://hankalrich.com/http://www.you...HankandShaidri It's a numbers game. "There's only room for so many at the top" meets "Every dog has its day". |
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"hank alrich" wrote in message ... Perhaps because the names of only a few one-hitters stick in my mind, I never realized these stats: http://digitalmusicnews.com/permalin...120311charting -- shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/ http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic http://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShaidri ******************** I wouldn't have guessed that either. I'm also surprised at the uniformity and flatness of the proportion, in spite of changing genres and industry marketing techniques. Like Les, I would like to see some kind of frequency statistics, though I wouldn't have said power law. More likely something like Poisson, though my stats theory isn't good enough for the fine print of that. Tony D |
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"Tony Done" wrote: I wouldn't have guessed that either. I'm also surprised at the uniformity and flatness of the proportion, in spite of changing genres and industry marketing techniques. Like Les, I would like to see some kind of frequency statistics, though I wouldn't have said power law. More likely something like Poisson, though my stats theory isn't good enough for the fine print of that. Tony D Of course they are talking about the "Top 100". Many of them may have crept in at position 99 or 100 with a once in a lifetime stroke of luck rather than a heap of talent. We are talking about popularity not quality. MJRB |
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"Mike Brown" wrote in message ... In article , "Tony Done" wrote: I wouldn't have guessed that either. I'm also surprised at the uniformity and flatness of the proportion, in spite of changing genres and industry marketing techniques. Like Les, I would like to see some kind of frequency statistics, though I wouldn't have said power law. More likely something like Poisson, though my stats theory isn't good enough for the fine print of that. Tony D Of course they are talking about the "Top 100". Many of them may have crept in at position 99 or 100 with a once in a lifetime stroke of luck rather than a heap of talent. We are talking about popularity not quality. MJRB *************** That's true, and very likely accounts for the great bulk of the effect. I wonder how many one hit wonders make the top 10? A much smaller proportion I would guess. Tony D |
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"Tony Done" wrote in message ... Of course they are talking about the "Top 100". Many of them may have crept in at position 99 or 100 with a once in a lifetime stroke of luck rather than a heap of talent. We are talking about popularity not quality. MJRB *************** That's true, and very likely accounts for the great bulk of the effect. I wonder how many one hit wonders make the top 10? A much smaller proportion I would guess. Right, I wouldn't call number 100 a "hit", top 40 maybe, but top 10 seems more like it to me. Trevor. |
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Trevor wrote:
"Tony Done" wrote in message ... Of course they are talking about the "Top 100". Many of them may have crept in at position 99 or 100 with a once in a lifetime stroke of luck rather than a heap of talent. We are talking about popularity not quality. MJRB *************** That's true, and very likely accounts for the great bulk of the effect. I wonder how many one hit wonders make the top 10? A much smaller proportion I would guess. Right, I wouldn't call number 100 a "hit", top 40 maybe, but top 10 seems more like it to me. With thousands of songs released yearyl, yeah, top 100 is a hit, with substantial sales and airplay. -- shut up and play your guitar * http://hankalrich.com/ http://www.youtube.com/walkinaymusic http://www.sonicbids.com/HankandShaidri |
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