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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote:
Pioneer http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg versus Goldmund http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Swiss made ?? |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"GregS" wrote in message
In article , "Arny Krueger" wrote: Pioneer http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg versus Goldmund http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Swiss made ?? It appears to be assembled in Switzerland using boards and transport designed in Japan and made in China. I've seen one other example of this, except the assembler added his own output buffer and power supply for the buffer. |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. Pioneer http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg versus Goldmund http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg **This is not news. Most high end manufacturers have used or still use mass market transports, DACs and other stuff. It's a standard con-job and has been going on for almost 2 decades. Trevor Wilson |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. Pioneer http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg versus Goldmund http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Pioneer main board - looks like a Sony mech, though. I've seen them in the HCD-FC9, a "dvdceiver". Mark Z. |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in
message t "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. Pioneer http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg versus Goldmund http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Pioneer main board - Boards as in both boards, right? looks like a Sony mech, though. I've seen them in the HCD-FC9, a "dvdceiver". What little I see of the Goldmund-ized DVD deck identically matches what I see in the photo of the Pioneer. Looks to me like Goldmund unsoldered the output jacks from the signal board and ran twisted pair (not even shielded wire) over to their new back panel. Goldmund may have added their own toroidal power transformer. Goldmund added their own circuit card for the output jacks. |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
Arny Krueger wrote:
http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Not enough resolution to refute differences on component level, but also no obviously replaced capacitors and a very good question about whether a bit of possibly occured pcb rework and a new cabinet warrants the differenc in price. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
Arny Krueger wrote: http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Not enough resolution to refute differences on component level, but also no obviously replaced capacitors and a very good question about whether a bit of possibly occured pcb rework and a new cabinet warrants the differenc in price. My sentiments, exactly. |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Peter Larsen" wrote in message Arny Krueger wrote: http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Not enough resolution to refute differences on component level, but also no obviously replaced capacitors and a very good question about whether a bit of possibly occured pcb rework and a new cabinet warrants the differenc in price. My sentiments, exactly. Its that subjective thing again - you can bet there are people out there who would be very happy with what they've got and what they paid for it, and maybe appreciate what little upgrade there really is. I wonder how they would feel if they only had to pay an extra 100 dollars? Maybe that just wouldn't do it for them at all. I've often wondered whether really expensive caviar really does taste really really good. I bet if was in the supermarket at 2 dollars a can it wouldn't, and none would get sold. Gareth. |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
Peter Larsen wrote:
: Arny Krueger wrote: : http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg : http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg : Not enough resolution to refute differences on component level, but also no : obviously replaced capacitors and a very good question about whether a bit : of possibly occured pcb rework and a new cabinet warrants the differenc in : price. What is the difference in price? -- Andy Barss |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"Andrew Barss" wrote in message
Peter Larsen wrote: Arny Krueger wrote: http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Not enough resolution to refute differences on component level, but also no obviously replaced capacitors and a very good question about whether a bit of possibly occured pcb rework and a new cabinet warrants the differenc in price. What is the difference in price? $200 for the Pioneer, $6,000 for the Goldmund. |
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It's a Goldmund, no its a Pioneer!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message t "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. Pioneer http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_1.jpg versus Goldmund http://audiostereo.lukarnet.com/gfx/960000/969938_2.jpg Pioneer main board - Boards as in both boards, right? looks like a Sony mech, though. I've seen them in the HCD-FC9, a "dvdceiver". What little I see of the Goldmund-ized DVD deck identically matches what I see in the photo of the Pioneer. Looks to me like Goldmund unsoldered the output jacks from the signal board and ran twisted pair (not even shielded wire) over to their new back panel. Goldmund may have added their own toroidal power transformer. Goldmund added their own circuit card for the output jacks. Of the two pics I saw using the given links, only one shows the "business end" of the DVD mech - that is, the traverse unit. Can't be definitive that they have the same mech at all from those pictures. Mark Z. |
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