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I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and
fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. |
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wrote in message oups.com... I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. I believe the amount of volume you gain from that would be so small to make much of a difference |
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On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote:
wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... |
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Mister.Lull wrote:
On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote: wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... Well, for $10 or less, it is worth a ****ing shot to try. It beats the holy **** out of customizing another enclosure from MDF and fiberglass and it won't break the bank to use some polyfil. OK, genius, do you have any better suggestions or are you one of those "for ****'s sake" people who likes to make noise and doesn't even have an intelligent thought to offer to the OP's issue at hand? -Gunz4Me |
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On Jun 28, 8:44 pm, Gunz4me wrote:
Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote: wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... Well, for $10 or less, it is worth a ****ing shot to try. It beats the holy **** out of customizing another enclosure from MDF and fiberglass and it won't break the bank to use some polyfil. OK, genius, do you have any better suggestions or are you one of those "for ****'s sake" people who likes to make noise and doesn't even have an intelligent thought to offer to the OP's issue at hand? -Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I love the hostility... It's like you think I was trying to insult you or something. I was alluding (in what I thought was a humorous way) to several heated debates regarding polyfil. [shrugs] ~Mister.Lull |
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Mister.Lull wrote:
On Jun 28, 8:44 pm, Gunz4me wrote: Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote: wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... Well, for $10 or less, it is worth a ****ing shot to try. It beats the holy **** out of customizing another enclosure from MDF and fiberglass and it won't break the bank to use some polyfil. OK, genius, do you have any better suggestions or are you one of those "for ****'s sake" people who likes to make noise and doesn't even have an intelligent thought to offer to the OP's issue at hand? -Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I love the hostility... It's like you think I was trying to insult you or something. I was alluding (in what I thought was a humorous way) to several heated debates regarding polyfil. [shrugs] ~Mister.Lull Sorry man, I should learn never to drink and get on the usenet because **** that would normally be funny, just doesn't seem funny when I am drunk. Please accept my apology. - Gunz4Me |
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On Jun 29, 6:46 am, Gunz4me wrote:
Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:44 pm, Gunz4me wrote: Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote: wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... Well, for $10 or less, it is worth a ****ing shot to try. It beats the holy **** out of customizing another enclosure from MDF and fiberglass and it won't break the bank to use some polyfil. OK, genius, do you have any better suggestions or are you one of those "for ****'s sake" people who likes to make noise and doesn't even have an intelligent thought to offer to the OP's issue at hand? -Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I love the hostility... It's like you think I was trying to insult you or something. I was alluding (in what I thought was a humorous way) to several heated debates regarding polyfil. [shrugs] ~Mister.Lull Sorry man, I should learn never to drink and get on the usenet because **** that would normally be funny, just doesn't seem funny when I am drunk. Please accept my apology. - Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) ~Mister.Lull |
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"Mister.Lull" wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 29, 6:46 am, Gunz4me wrote: Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:44 pm, Gunz4me wrote: Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote: wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... Well, for $10 or less, it is worth a ****ing shot to try. It beats the holy **** out of customizing another enclosure from MDF and fiberglass and it won't break the bank to use some polyfil. OK, genius, do you have any better suggestions or are you one of those "for ****'s sake" people who likes to make noise and doesn't even have an intelligent thought to offer to the OP's issue at hand? -Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I love the hostility... It's like you think I was trying to insult you or something. I was alluding (in what I thought was a humorous way) to several heated debates regarding polyfil. [shrugs] ~Mister.Lull Sorry man, I should learn never to drink and get on the usenet because **** that would normally be funny, just doesn't seem funny when I am drunk. Please accept my apology. - Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) Peace, Bros! (glad you worked that out!) So, what about the original suggestion... can polyfill do the job or not? What about internal baffles? I once saw a setup where the sub was facing towards the *inside* of the box and baffled with a rectangular opening in the next chamber above the speaker. Sounded great but it might have sounded great in an even simpler configuration. Don't know because there was no comparison set up. At the time, I thought the baffling was used to get rid of higher frequency tones, a sort of natural crossover or something, but maybe it was adding "virtual volume." What are your thoughts? El |
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In article .com, "Mister.Lull" wrote:
On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote: wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... There is no debate. It does what it does. greg |
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In article DIThi.249$q12.155@trnddc08, "El Kabong" wrote:
"Mister.Lull" wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 29, 6:46 am, Gunz4me wrote: Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:44 pm, Gunz4me wrote: Mister.Lull wrote: On Jun 28, 8:27 am, Gunz4me wrote: wrote: I built an irregularly shaped subwoofer enclosure out of MDF and fiberglass. It is just a little bit under the ideal volume for the subwoofer. Could I just drill a hole in the side of the box and add a foot of 2" PVC pipe (capped off and sealed) jutting out of the subwoofer enclosure and under the seat of the truck? I know they say that volume of air is all that matters, but what if the air is in a pipe sticking out of the box? I'm interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance and have a lovely day. How about trying some polyfil in the box to absorb some of those waves, thus tricking the woofer into thinking it is in a bigger box?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh for ****'s sake, not the polyfill debate again... Well, for $10 or less, it is worth a ****ing shot to try. It beats the holy **** out of customizing another enclosure from MDF and fiberglass and it won't break the bank to use some polyfil. OK, genius, do you have any better suggestions or are you one of those "for ****'s sake" people who likes to make noise and doesn't even have an intelligent thought to offer to the OP's issue at hand? -Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, I love the hostility... It's like you think I was trying to insult you or something. I was alluding (in what I thought was a humorous way) to several heated debates regarding polyfil. [shrugs] ~Mister.Lull Sorry man, I should learn never to drink and get on the usenet because **** that would normally be funny, just doesn't seem funny when I am drunk. Please accept my apology. - Gunz4Me- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) Peace, Bros! (glad you worked that out!) So, what about the original suggestion... can polyfill do the job or not? If polyfill does not make the box seem big enough, fiberglass, or foam batting will. How many times to I have to say this? greg |
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I think it would work. Everything I've ever seen indicates the shape
doesn't matter at all, and I've seen some strange looking enclosures that sound great. As long as the volume is there, I don't think it matters, as long as air can move freely and easily to all the volume (ie you dont have some external chamber connected to your main box volume by a 1/4" hole or something ridiculous.. |
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On Jul 1, 1:20 pm, ruens wrote:
We've all ****ed up when building boxes at one point or another. Simply put, trash it, take it as a lesson learned, plan and build another. Why bother wasting your time trying to fix it? Your reply leads me to believe that you've never worked with firberglas before. The last thing one wants to do after working with that stuff is to trash his work just because the enclosure is a bit under spec. If I were him, I'd be trying like mad to salvage my work, too. The thing I haven't seen from the original poster, however, is how much "a little" undersized this box is. There is a threshold below which no amount of stuffing is going to help. -dan |
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D.Kreft wrote:
On Jul 1, 1:20 pm, ruens wrote: We've all ****ed up when building boxes at one point or another. Simply put, trash it, take it as a lesson learned, plan and build another. Why bother wasting your time trying to fix it? Your reply leads me to believe that you've never worked with firberglas before. The last thing one wants to do after working with that stuff is to trash his work just because the enclosure is a bit under spec. If I were him, I'd be trying like mad to salvage my work, too. The thing I haven't seen from the original poster, however, is how much "a little" undersized this box is. There is a threshold below which no amount of stuffing is going to help. -dan Bleh, I hate working with fiberglass. It is a royal PITA, and I hate being covered in that itchy, picky, dust when sanding it down. |
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Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) ~Mister.Lull **** yah it's a big deal you asshole! We have never reached a concensus about the Polyfil debate and you act like it's not a big ****ing deal!?!?!?!?! OK, genius, leave the Polyfil debate behind! See if I care. Just make your noise and leave important issues behind. You make me sick. MOSFET |
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On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, "Nick and Tina" wrote:
Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) ~Mister.Lull **** yah it's a big deal you asshole! We have never reached a concensus about the Polyfil debate and you act like it's not a big ****ing deal!?!?!?!?! OK, genius, leave the Polyfil debate behind! See if I care. Just make your noise and leave important issues behind. You make me sick. MOSFET LOL!!!! Have I told you that it's nice to have you back around?! :-) ~Mister.Lull |
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Lull,
I DID NOT post that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know Howdy is a whiz at the computer and this seems like his brand of humor but I ASSURE you I DID NOT type that and I don't drink or do drugs so this not some kind of late-night-drunk-post. Sorry for the mix-up but I would HOPE from all my hundreds of posts in the past (over 15 years) that you would know that is certainly not the way I communicate. Take care, Nick "Mister.Lull" wrote in message ps.com... On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, "Nick and Tina" wrote: Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) ~Mister.Lull **** yah it's a big deal you asshole! We have never reached a concensus about the Polyfil debate and you act like it's not a big ****ing deal!?!?!?!?! OK, genius, leave the Polyfil debate behind! See if I care. Just make your noise and leave important issues behind. You make me sick. MOSFET LOL!!!! Have I told you that it's nice to have you back around?! :-) ~Mister.Lull |
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Oh, oops, I forgot, I did post that. I was making a joke. It was so long
ago I forgot I was being ironic. When I first read it though I thought "what the hell is going on here? I like Lull!" Duh. Nick "Nick and Tina" wrote in message ... Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) ~Mister.Lull **** yah it's a big deal you asshole! We have never reached a concensus about the Polyfil debate and you act like it's not a big ****ing deal!?!?!?!?! OK, genius, leave the Polyfil debate behind! See if I care. Just make your noise and leave important issues behind. You make me sick. MOSFET |
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MOSFET wrote:
Oh, oops, I forgot, I did post that. I was making a joke. It was so long ago I forgot I was being ironic. When I first read it though I thought "what the hell is going on here? I like Lull!" Duh. Ha! I *knew* MOSFET and Howdy were really the same person! |
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LOL You caught me (us) Matt!!!
"Matt Ion" wrote in message news:qv6ui.40597$fJ5.39718@pd7urf1no... MOSFET wrote: Oh, oops, I forgot, I did post that. I was making a joke. It was so long ago I forgot I was being ironic. When I first read it though I thought "what the hell is going on here? I like Lull!" Duh. Ha! I *knew* MOSFET and Howdy were really the same person! |
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After all this time Mosfet still wants to **** me, thats true luv!!!!!!!!!
In article , "MOSFET" wrote: Lull, I DID NOT post that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know Howdy is a whiz at the computer and this seems like his brand of humor but I ASSURE you I DID NOT type that and I don't drink or do drugs so this not some kind of late-night-drunk-post. Sorry for the mix-up but I would HOPE from all my hundreds of posts in the past (over 15 years) that you would know that is certainly not the way I communicate. Take care, Nick "Mister.Lull" wrote in message ups.com... On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, "Nick and Tina" wrote: Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) ~Mister.Lull **** yah it's a big deal you asshole! We have never reached a concensus about the Polyfil debate and you act like it's not a big ****ing deal!?!?!?!?! OK, genius, leave the Polyfil debate behind! See if I care. Just make your noise and leave important issues behind. You make me sick. MOSFET LOL!!!! Have I told you that it's nice to have you back around?! :-) ~Mister.Lull |
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After all this time Mosfet still wants to **** me, thats true luv!!!!!!!!!
Just tell me where and when, lover. Kisses, MOSFET |
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Got your mtx yet or are ya still playin with your nuts?
In article , "MOSFET" wrote: After all this time Mosfet still wants to **** me, thats true luv!!!!!!!!! Just tell me where and when, lover. Kisses, MOSFET |
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Well, if you'd call a Soundstream Ref. 700 nuts then the answer to that
question is I'm still using nuts. But I want an MTX Class D so bad it hurts. Especially because my 7 year old Optima Yellow-Top crapped out on me (it won't take a charge anymore). Unfortunately right now I can't rationalize $200 for a battery so I just went out and bought a basic car battery. So power is REALLY at a premium in my car. And my wife just bought a new car which has a fairly decent Pioneer HU to start with, but of course no bump so that will have to be changed in short order so I have MANY things on my wish list right now. I have a sealed box with holes for two 15" subs that would fit nicely in the trunk of her Mazda MX6. If I bought a MTX Class D for my Forester, I could put the nuts (SS Ref. 700) in her car to drive the 15" subs (that I have yet to buy). That's the plan right now. MOSFET "Captain Howdy" wrote in message ... Got your mtx yet or are ya still playin with your nuts? In article , "MOSFET" wrote: After all this time Mosfet still wants to **** me, thats true luv!!!!!!!!! Just tell me where and when, lover. Kisses, MOSFET |
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Car audio prices are insane right now for used crap. If you can hold off wait
till winter. I just bought a grand cherokee and just the idea of knowing that Im going to install an alarm in it is making me tired alone. Everything is tied into the computer on this truck and it needs interface data bus modules that I'm not looking forward to installing. As for audio it has a crappy looking sony cd hu wired to the factory infinity system. Once my winter car dies I'll just transfer the trash (two sony 12's, mtx 801d and two mtx rt202 kenwood mp3 hu) from it into the Cherokee. Lots of room in there to work with just not willing to spend the money on another system like the one in my summer car and this limits my playing time to nothing since its just not what i'm use to bumping. In article , "MOSFET" wrote: Well, if you'd call a Soundstream Ref. 700 nuts then the answer to that question is I'm still using nuts. But I want an MTX Class D so bad it hurts. Especially because my 7 year old Optima Yellow-Top crapped out on me (it won't take a charge anymore). Unfortunately right now I can't rationalize $200 for a battery so I just went out and bought a basic car battery. So power is REALLY at a premium in my car. And my wife just bought a new car which has a fairly decent Pioneer HU to start with, but of course no bump so that will have to be changed in short order so I have MANY things on my wish list right now. I have a sealed box with holes for two 15" subs that would fit nicely in the trunk of her Mazda MX6. If I bought a MTX Class D for my Forester, I could put the nuts (SS Ref. 700) in her car to drive the 15" subs (that I have yet to buy). That's the plan right now. MOSFET |
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On Aug 7, 2:48 pm, "MOSFET" wrote:
Oh, oops, I forgot, I did post that. I was making a joke. It was so long ago I forgot I was being ironic. When I first read it though I thought "what the hell is going on here? I like Lull!" Duh. Nick "Nick and Tina" wrote in ... Not a big deal, dude! Thanks, though. :-) ~Mister.Lull **** yah it's a big deal you asshole! We have never reached a concensus about the Polyfil debate and you act like it's not a big ****ing deal!?!?!?!?! OK, genius, leave the Polyfil debate behind! See if I care. Just make your noise and leave important issues behind. You make me sick. MOSFET- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - HA! I kind of figured you'd posted it as a joke, or at least that's how I was going to take it... :-) Two FIFTEENS in the next design for you?!! Damn! That's just too much for me - I'm still happy bumpin' one ten... (Mister.Lull cruises along with his mini-bumps... bump, bump, bump) ~Mister.Lull |
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Car audio prices are insane right now for used crap. If you can hold off
wait till winter. Yes. You're absolutely right. But it IS a good time to sell. I've been selling all my old **** lately and getting insane prices. For instance, I had this old RF Power 360 where one channel was blown (and I made that REALLY clear in my description that it was broken and only one channel worked) and got $76 for it!!!!!! I would have been happy with $20 for a broken amp!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MESO:IT&ih=008 That's the market for you. it is a GREAT time to sell but NOT a good time to buy. MOSFET |
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