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type of bass
I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong
question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a 02 WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are there different kinds of bass? I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been very punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive nature of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note" of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and techno sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference? I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the difference in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that translates to what I hear. Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks! |
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In article NM7vd.2692$Qk5.1996@lakeread04, "Matt"
wrote: I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a 02 WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are there different kinds of bass? Short answer: yes. I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been very punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive nature of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note" of rap & techno? Definitely. Before the mix engineer gets his hands on it anyway. Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and techno sound louder? It could. Most frequency content in modern rap/r&b is centralized in a couple places. would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference? Definitely. But it probably won't solve your midbass problem. Alot of the older gnr and metallica stuff has almost as much midbass content as bass/sub-bass stuff. I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the difference in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that translates to what I hear. Experiment. Load some songs you know into a DAW program of some sort. Find a spectrum analyzer and see where where the song is dancing. Play with eq's to hear the changes real time, etc. Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks! -- Cyrus *coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough* |
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I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong
question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a 02 WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are there different kinds of bass? I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been very punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive nature of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note" of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and techno sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference? I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the difference in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that translates to what I hear. Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks! IME, the majority of complaints of this type stem from inadequate midbass response - something that your midbass drivers are responsible for. Explain a little about what you've got there. |
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Well I built a subwoofer for my home stereo with the resonant frequency of
the box too low and it was just boomy. I then reported it with an Fb of around 65 or 70hz. This really made it punchy. what frequencies are "mid bass?" What parameters should I look for when designing a sub and more importantly, what do these SOUND like? -matt "MZ" wrote in message ... I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a 02 WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are there different kinds of bass? I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been very punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive nature of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note" of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and techno sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference? I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the difference in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that translates to what I hear. Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks! IME, the majority of complaints of this type stem from inadequate midbass response - something that your midbass drivers are responsible for. Explain a little about what you've got there. |
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Matt,
I have come to the realization that bass, sub-bass and highs are all pretty easy to achieve; the tough piece is the mid-bass. As far as I can tell, the industry seems to focus all their attention (and marketing) on subs, largely ignoring the need for good midbass equipment. Do a Google search for "midbass".in this group. John "Matt" wrote in message news:Qspvd.2741$Qk5.439@lakeread04... Well I built a subwoofer for my home stereo with the resonant frequency of the box too low and it was just boomy. I then reported it with an Fb of around 65 or 70hz. This really made it punchy. what frequencies are "mid bass?" What parameters should I look for when designing a sub and more importantly, what do these SOUND like? -matt "MZ" wrote in message ... I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a 02 WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are there different kinds of bass? I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been very punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive nature of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note" of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and techno sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference? I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the difference in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that translates to what I hear. Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks! IME, the majority of complaints of this type stem from inadequate midbass response - something that your midbass drivers are responsible for. Explain a little about what you've got there. |
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