Hi all,

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ Sport, that I got with a "premium" sound system.
I was actually pretty happy with the sound, but I wanted the MP3
capability.

So I got a Pioneer DEH-P5500 and since I had a bunch of gift cards
from Worst Buy, I decided to get it installed there. I have a factory
console sub-woofer in my Jeep, which I found NOT working after the
system was installed. When I pointed it out to the scum-sucking
d*ckface "technician", he told me that he wasn't aware there was a
sub-woofer and that this new unit wasn't really designed to work with
it, and that it will cost extra for him to try something. It sounded
like bulls*it, but I didn't want to argue with him until I had all the
facts. Well, now I do. The head unit DOES have an output for the
subwoofer (with no amp), despite that as**ole's reassurances that he
has "done this a hundred times" and that's just how it is.

So here is my question:

How can I do this myself? Is there a separate harness for the
subwoofer on '03 Jeep TJ? If so, is there an adapter I can get that
will match the Pioneer to the factory wire?

BTW, I'm going back to see those lowlife sh*tbags at Best Buy
tomorrow, but I'm just going to get my money back - I don't want those
f**kers anywhere near my truck again.

If you can, please reply by e-mail, I'd like to figure this out and be
done with it...

Thanks In Advance,

Igor.

I believe all you have to do is have the remote wire powered up in the factory harness and that should do it. I work at a BBY install bay and we have an extensive database of tech docs that has this particular vehicle and what to do with the factory sub to make it work. And if memory serves, it is nothing you should have to pay extra for.

But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness. In some Chrysler vehicles, another cable needs to be grounded for the amp to work as well, not sure if this is applicable in your vehicle though.

rant And I keep reading all this **** about how bad Best Buy installs are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do suck and don't take there time for anything! I wonder how in the **** they get away with **** like that, really ****es me off. At my bay, we always do some of the best work in the region and have the least damage claims in company history. We went 2 years without a single claim, and one happened earlier this year (accidentally screwed through a non-BBY sub while mounting it, hey it happens). But I would say sorry for your experience, but I really don't give a ****, cause I hate working there too, but it pays the bills. /rant
"Igor" wrote in message om...
Hi all,

I have a 2003 Jeep TJ Sport, that I got with a "premium" sound system.
I was actually pretty happy with the sound, but I wanted the MP3
capability.

So I got a Pioneer DEH-P5500 and since I had a bunch of gift cards
from Worst Buy, I decided to get it installed there. I have a factory
console sub-woofer in my Jeep, which I found NOT working after the
system was installed. When I pointed it out to the scum-sucking
d*ckface "technician", he told me that he wasn't aware there was a
sub-woofer and that this new unit wasn't really designed to work with
it, and that it will cost extra for him to try something. It sounded
like bulls*it, but I didn't want to argue with him until I had all the
facts. Well, now I do. The head unit DOES have an output for the
subwoofer (with no amp), despite that as**ole's reassurances that he
has "done this a hundred times" and that's just how it is.

So here is my question:

How can I do this myself? Is there a separate harness for the
subwoofer on '03 Jeep TJ? If so, is there an adapter I can get that
will match the Pioneer to the factory wire?

BTW, I'm going back to see those lowlife sh*tbags at Best Buy
tomorrow, but I'm just going to get my money back - I don't want those
f**kers anywhere near my truck again.

If you can, please reply by e-mail, I'd like to figure this out and be
done with it...

Thanks In Advance,

Igor.

But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
"turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.

I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.



rant And I keep reading all this **** about how bad Best Buy installs
are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
suck and don't take there time for anything! ...

Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

Did they explain to you what had to be done? And can you tell me what BBY you went to?
"Igor" wrote in message m...
But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
"turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.

I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.



rant And I keep reading all this **** about how bad Best Buy installs
are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
suck and don't take there time for anything! ...

Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

Now you should go back to Best Buy and show the guy it can be done, the ask
the manager why he/she hired such an incompetent installer, tell them you
will also tell everyone you know that Best Buy doesn't know how to install
radio's correctly and that they will never buy any car audio at Best Buy
ever again... you just might get a bit more of a refund to keep quite..

Snow...

"Igor" wrote in message
m...
But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the sub RCA
preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's signal via the
high level outputs from the head unit. The sub amp just needs to be
"turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring harness.

I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still insisted
that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash, found
the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together in total
of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.



rant And I keep reading all this **** about how bad Best Buy installs
are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops that really do
suck and don't take there time for anything! ...

Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

Ha! He'll probably get escorted out the door and told not to return,
being branded as a troublemaker for exposing BB's shenannigans.

Regards,
Joe


"Snow" wrote in
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Now you should go back to Best Buy and show the guy it can be done,
the ask the manager why he/she hired such an incompetent installer,
tell them you will also tell everyone you know that Best Buy doesn't
know how to install radio's correctly and that they will never buy
any car audio at Best Buy ever again... you just might get a bit
more of a refund to keep quite..

Snow...

"Igor" wrote in message
m...
But to answer some of your questions, you will not be using the
sub RCA preouts to run the factory sub. It basically gets it's
signal via the high level outputs from the head unit. The sub
amp just needs to be "turned on" by the remote lead in the wiring
harness.

I went to Best Buy, tore them a new one, because they still
insisted that it can't be done. I got my money back (labor only)

After that I went to a local sound shop, they opened the dash,
found the problem, rewired the harness, put the dash back together
in total of 20 min.

Cost: A promise to them to be their customer from now on.



rant And I keep reading all this **** about how bad Best Buy
installs are, and I know that there are about 75% of the shops
that really do suck and don't take there time for anything! ...

Agree. Will never buy as much as a battery from that place.

Did they explain to you what had to be done? And can you tell me what
BBY you went to?

No, I was so happy they got it to work, I forgot to ask. But, I did
watch what the guy was doing. He re-connected the green wires to
diferrent locations in the harness.

The Best Buy I went to is in East Hanover, NJ. Later, I followed up
with a phone call and spoke to a manager named Nicole. I'm sure she
didn't know anything about installs, but she apologized and offered me
a gift card for the WHOLE amount of the installation! I'll go see her
Friday.

Anyway, thanks for your help, sorry for flying off the handle like
that, but I was so ****ed off, I couldn't sleep that night. Now when
all is said and done, the system sounds SWEET!!!

Now you should go back to Best Buy and show the guy it can be done, the ask
the manager why he/she hired such an incompetent installer, tell them you
will also tell everyone you know that Best Buy doesn't know how to install
radio's correctly and that they will never buy any car audio at Best Buy
ever again... you just might get a bit more of a refund to keep quite..

Exactly what I did. I'll have to go there Friday night, to pick up the
rest of the money. The management DOES seem to care a little bit more
then an average employee...