e80cc = 12au7?

Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:
> Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used in
> place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
> anywhere.
>
> John

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio but not for driver.

Originally Posted by

Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:
> Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used in
> place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
> anywhere.
>
> John

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio but not for driver.

The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf

& here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf

It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!

Cheers to all, John L Stewart

On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
> ;988400 Wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
>>> Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
>> in
>>> place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
>>> anywhere.
>>>
>>> John-
>>
>> I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
>> ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
>> and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
>> But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
>> but not for driver.
>
> The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-
>
> http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf
>
> & here-
>
> http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf
>
> It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
> caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!
>
> Cheers to all, John L Stewart
>
>
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....it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine

regards

Jochen

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, jh wrote:
> On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
> > ;988400 Wrote:
> >> Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
> >>> Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
> >> in
> >>> place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
> >>> anywhere.
> >>>
> >>> John-
> >>
> >> I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
> >> ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
> >> and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
> >> But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
> >> but not for driver.
> >
> > The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-
> >
> > http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf
> >
> > & here-
> >
> > http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf
> >
> > It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
> > caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!
> >
> > Cheers to all, John L Stewart
> >
> >
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> > +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ...it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine
>
> regards
>
> Jochen

Sure it is! But it is NOT always a valid substitute for a 12AU7, nor does it equal a 12AU7. That would be the point. And representing it as such is simply wrong.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

On 10.07.2015 14:55, Peter Wieck wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, jh wrote:
>> On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
>>> ;988400 Wrote:
>>>> Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
>>>>> Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
>>>> in
>>>>> place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> John-
>>>>
>>>> I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
>>>> ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
>>>> and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
>>>> But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
>>>> but not for driver.
>>>
>>> The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-
>>>
>>> http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf
>>>
>>> & here-
>>>
>>> http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf
>>>
>>> It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
>>> caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!
>>>
>>> Cheers to all, John L Stewart
>>>
>>>
>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>> |Filename: Avater.gif |
>>> |Download: http://www.audiobanter.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=414|
>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ...it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Jochen
>
> Sure it is! But it is NOT always a valid substitute for a 12AU7, nor does it equal a 12AU7. That would be the point. And representing it as such is simply wrong.
>
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
>

Did I?

I don't think so.

The E800CC is still a wonderful tube for audio

;-)

regards

Jochen

On 07/12/15 07:26, jh so wittily quipped:
> On 10.07.2015 14:55, Peter Wieck wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, jh wrote:
>>> On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
>>>> ;988400 Wrote:
>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
>>>>>> Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
>>>>> in
>>>>>> place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John-
>>>>>
>>>>> I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
>>>>> ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
>>>>> and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
>>>>> But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
>>>>> but not for driver.
>>>>
>>>> The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-
>>>>
>>>> http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf
>>>>
>>>> & here-
>>>>
>>>> http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf
>>>>
>>>> It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
>>>> caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers to all, John L Stewart
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> |Filename: Avater.gif |
>>>> |Download: http://www.audiobanter.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=414|
>>>> +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Jochen
>>
>> Sure it is! But it is NOT always a valid substitute for a 12AU7, nor
>> does it equal a 12AU7. That would be the point. And representing it as
>> such is simply wrong.
>>
>> Peter Wieck
>> Melrose Park, PA
>>
>
> Did I?
>
> I don't think so.
>
> The E800CC is still a wonderful tube for audio
>
> ;-)
>

I don't think anyone disputes that. but applications requiring a 12AU7
[let's say a reverb drive or AB2 drive] might not work the same. I
think *that* was the point.