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playon wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:28:04 -0500, Pete Dimsman wrote: Just in case your Hummer doesn't use enough gas, you can always get one of these: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co...5a.hmedium.jpg http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6026041 Truck maker unveils a monster pickup Navistar's 14,500-pound vehicle gets 7 miles a gallon Jesus... why not just buy a Kenworth or a Peterbuilt and be done with it? Cause then they'd* need a CDL, which they couldn't get unless they actually proved they know how to drive. * They referring to the people most likely to a vehicle like this. |
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playon wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:28:04 -0500, Pete Dimsman wrote: Just in case your Hummer doesn't use enough gas, you can always get one of these: http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co...5a.hmedium.jpg http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6026041 Truck maker unveils a monster pickup Navistar's 14,500-pound vehicle gets 7 miles a gallon Jesus... why not just buy a Kenworth or a Peterbuilt and be done with it? Cause then they'd* need a CDL, which they couldn't get unless they actually proved they know how to drive. * They referring to the people most likely to a vehicle like this. |
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On 18 Sep 2004 12:26:24 GMT, ospam (WillStG) wrote:
playon (Blind Joni) wrote: Are we taking any oil? **** yes. We are buying it of course, ... Stealing = buying. Doh! If the world indeed does hate Americans as you claim Al, for the reason of our stupidity, *you* are in big trouble. You claim we are not hated? Al |
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On 18 Sep 2004 12:26:24 GMT, ospam (WillStG) wrote:
playon (Blind Joni) wrote: Are we taking any oil? **** yes. We are buying it of course, ... Stealing = buying. Doh! If the world indeed does hate Americans as you claim Al, for the reason of our stupidity, *you* are in big trouble. You claim we are not hated? Al |
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I guess I'm on of the average US citizens. Do you think left to their own
devices these countries would develope governments more to our liking? No, they'd develop governments more to *their* liking. That's the classic American attitude... do you think that other countries exist for the purpose of pleasing us? You and others keep refering to the view of the US around the world..this was my point. You seem to suggest that we should be doing just that. the the Shah of Iran... that one really turned around and bit us on the ass, didn't it? You don't seem like a dumb guy, why don't you read up on it a little, I'm seriously encouraging you. Just heard a radio show about the Shah....saying he basically modernized a nation in a generation..and now it is in many ways back where it was 25 years ago..at least in terms of freedom. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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I guess I'm on of the average US citizens. Do you think left to their own
devices these countries would develope governments more to our liking? No, they'd develop governments more to *their* liking. That's the classic American attitude... do you think that other countries exist for the purpose of pleasing us? You and others keep refering to the view of the US around the world..this was my point. You seem to suggest that we should be doing just that. the the Shah of Iran... that one really turned around and bit us on the ass, didn't it? You don't seem like a dumb guy, why don't you read up on it a little, I'm seriously encouraging you. Just heard a radio show about the Shah....saying he basically modernized a nation in a generation..and now it is in many ways back where it was 25 years ago..at least in terms of freedom. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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You claim we are not hated?
That's what I walk around worrying about. A lot of people might hate me personally..doesn't affect how I live or what I do...I have priorities and values that I live by.Haters will hate. I don't hate anyone..do you? Some religions teach you not to hate..others obviously..perhaps wrongly..do not. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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You claim we are not hated?
That's what I walk around worrying about. A lot of people might hate me personally..doesn't affect how I live or what I do...I have priorities and values that I live by.Haters will hate. I don't hate anyone..do you? Some religions teach you not to hate..others obviously..perhaps wrongly..do not. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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They don't have to study politics to know what the US is doing, it is
blatantly obvious to them. Everyone has a story. You know the old example. Ten people see an accident..eyewitnesses..and guess how many different stories we will hear about it? Now..go half a world away...etc..etc. Must all be true!! John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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They don't have to study politics to know what the US is doing, it is
blatantly obvious to them. Everyone has a story. You know the old example. Ten people see an accident..eyewitnesses..and guess how many different stories we will hear about it? Now..go half a world away...etc..etc. Must all be true!! John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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A point mostly lost on others. Who even knows when the US went off the gold
standard and suddenly made the pact to have all oil transactions be in dollars? My guess, 1932? Or was it 1938? (I actually know the answer, but if I don't prod...) -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message ... Pete Dimsman wrote: Blind Joni wrote: The problem is that the US 7% of the population consumes far, far more than it's share of the worlds resources. And most of those resources belonged to other countries... it's a stacked deck, which is why so much of the world resents America. I understand this but aren't we BUYING those resources..we're not stealing them. You CAN'T put a dollar value on everything. There is a finite amount of fossil fuel available, and we took a good portion of that while it was still cheap. Because we have (or had) the money to pay for them, doesn't change the fact that we have and continue to use an imporportionate amount of those resources. Maybe "stealing" isn't the right word, you can call it "taking". Making sure that oil was to be sold for dollars at about the same time we went off the gold standard was a great way to insure the continued viability of the Dollar... |
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A point mostly lost on others. Who even knows when the US went off the gold
standard and suddenly made the pact to have all oil transactions be in dollars? My guess, 1932? Or was it 1938? (I actually know the answer, but if I don't prod...) -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio "Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message ... Pete Dimsman wrote: Blind Joni wrote: The problem is that the US 7% of the population consumes far, far more than it's share of the worlds resources. And most of those resources belonged to other countries... it's a stacked deck, which is why so much of the world resents America. I understand this but aren't we BUYING those resources..we're not stealing them. You CAN'T put a dollar value on everything. There is a finite amount of fossil fuel available, and we took a good portion of that while it was still cheap. Because we have (or had) the money to pay for them, doesn't change the fact that we have and continue to use an imporportionate amount of those resources. Maybe "stealing" isn't the right word, you can call it "taking". Making sure that oil was to be sold for dollars at about the same time we went off the gold standard was a great way to insure the continued viability of the Dollar... |
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Blind Joni wrote:
the the Shah of Iran... that one really turned around and bit us on the ass, didn't it? You don't seem like a dumb guy, why don't you read up on it a little, I'm seriously encouraging you. Just heard a radio show about the Shah....saying he basically modernized a nation in a generation. What show, on what outlet? now it is in many ways back where it was 25 years ago..at least in terms of freedom. The Shah was ousted 25 years ago, not sure what you're saying here? |
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Blind Joni wrote:
the the Shah of Iran... that one really turned around and bit us on the ass, didn't it? You don't seem like a dumb guy, why don't you read up on it a little, I'm seriously encouraging you. Just heard a radio show about the Shah....saying he basically modernized a nation in a generation. What show, on what outlet? now it is in many ways back where it was 25 years ago..at least in terms of freedom. The Shah was ousted 25 years ago, not sure what you're saying here? |
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Kurt Albershardt wrote:
Blind Joni wrote: the the Shah of Iran... that one really turned around and bit us on the ass, didn't it? You don't seem like a dumb guy, why don't you read up on it a little, I'm seriously encouraging you. Just heard a radio show about the Shah....saying he basically modernized a nation in a generation. What show, on what outlet? now it is in many ways back where it was 25 years ago..at least in terms of freedom. The Shah was ousted 25 years ago, not sure what you're saying here? Edgar Snow's _People On Our Side_ has some nice discussion of the Shah's attempts to modernize the country and his help in WWII. You may or may not agree with how he did it, but the book is well worth reading. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Kurt Albershardt wrote:
Blind Joni wrote: the the Shah of Iran... that one really turned around and bit us on the ass, didn't it? You don't seem like a dumb guy, why don't you read up on it a little, I'm seriously encouraging you. Just heard a radio show about the Shah....saying he basically modernized a nation in a generation. What show, on what outlet? now it is in many ways back where it was 25 years ago..at least in terms of freedom. The Shah was ousted 25 years ago, not sure what you're saying here? Edgar Snow's _People On Our Side_ has some nice discussion of the Shah's attempts to modernize the country and his help in WWII. You may or may not agree with how he did it, but the book is well worth reading. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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He may have modernized the infrastructer but he was a fascist asshole
who terrorized Iranians with his SAVAK secret police (trained by the CIA). Please, read some history instead of getting all your info from the media. Sorry Al, not trying to appear lazy. So, the Shah was worse for the Iranian people than the present government? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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He may have modernized the infrastructer but he was a fascist asshole
who terrorized Iranians with his SAVAK secret police (trained by the CIA). Please, read some history instead of getting all your info from the media. Sorry Al, not trying to appear lazy. So, the Shah was worse for the Iranian people than the present government? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Have you ever lived anywhere besides the US?
No..sorry for my obvious lack of something. That isn't my point. My point is that people are people..and when we assign overall greater inteligence or wisdom do people aropund tha world as a generality it would seem a mistake. I don't really want to live outside the US..right now..but are you saying that people elsewhere are worried about waht the everyday American thinks? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Have you ever lived anywhere besides the US?
No..sorry for my obvious lack of something. That isn't my point. My point is that people are people..and when we assign overall greater inteligence or wisdom do people aropund tha world as a generality it would seem a mistake. I don't really want to live outside the US..right now..but are you saying that people elsewhere are worried about waht the everyday American thinks? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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No surprise..maybbe there should be 3 countries there instead of one.
The Kurds have way too much oil under their sand to make that a probability. Aha!!! So even the innocent, oppressed locals have oil on their minds..so funny that we should feel the same way. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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No surprise..maybbe there should be 3 countries there instead of one.
The Kurds have way too much oil under their sand to make that a probability. Aha!!! So even the innocent, oppressed locals have oil on their minds..so funny that we should feel the same way. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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"Blind Joni" wrote in message... but are you saying that people elsewhere are worried about waht the everyday American thinks? I get the impression that they feel like the 'everyday American' is responsible for what their cough-cough leadership thinks and does. That makes us guilty by association. |
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"Blind Joni" wrote in message... but are you saying that people elsewhere are worried about waht the everyday American thinks? I get the impression that they feel like the 'everyday American' is responsible for what their cough-cough leadership thinks and does. That makes us guilty by association. |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:33:35 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: "Blind Joni" wrote in message... but are you saying that people elsewhere are worried about waht the everyday American thinks? I get the impression that they feel like the 'everyday American' is responsible for what their cough-cough leadership thinks and does. That makes us guilty by association. I think a lot of people in other countries realize that Bush is not that popular among Americans, and know that he was not elected with the popular vote. However if he is re-elected I don't think they will be giving the average American as much slack, & why should they... |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:33:35 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: "Blind Joni" wrote in message... but are you saying that people elsewhere are worried about waht the everyday American thinks? I get the impression that they feel like the 'everyday American' is responsible for what their cough-cough leadership thinks and does. That makes us guilty by association. I think a lot of people in other countries realize that Bush is not that popular among Americans, and know that he was not elected with the popular vote. However if he is re-elected I don't think they will be giving the average American as much slack, & why should they... |
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Except that the oil belongs to *them*.
Hopefully they will get to sell it and beneift..are they able to drill, pump and so forth? John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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