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Stereophile: not a shred of integrity
Mike McKelvy said to John Atkinson:
You have yet to adequately address why your magazine has zero oversight on things like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, that make people laugh at you when you try to claim any sort of crediblity. They are fraud, and anyone with a shred of integrity would be offended to let the glowing reviews that the dolts at SP penned ever see light of day. (Begin Dance here) The "Atkinson Two-step"! |
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oups.com Mike McKelvy said to John Atkinson: You have yet to adequately address why your magazine has zero oversight on things like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, that make people laugh at you when you try to claim any sort of crediblity. They are fraud, and anyone with a shred of integrity would be offended to let the glowing reviews that the dolts at SP penned ever see light of day. (Begin Dance here) The "Atkinson Two-step"! I wonder at Audiophools like Paul Packer and the rest of the Middius dupes who don't seem to understand that SP's economically efficacious promotion of snake oil like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, is based on how incredibly easy it is to manipulate sighted evaluations. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: wrote in message oups.com Mike McKelvy said to John Atkinson: You have yet to adequately address why your magazine has zero oversight on things like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, that make people laugh at you when you try to claim any sort of crediblity. They are fraud, and anyone with a shred of integrity would be offended to let the glowing reviews that the dolts at SP penned ever see light of day. (Begin Dance here) The "Atkinson Two-step"! I wonder at Audiophools like Paul Packer and the rest of the Middius dupes who don't seem to understand that SP's economically efficacious promotion of snake oil like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, is based on how incredibly easy it is to manipulate sighted evaluations. Could it be that Shakti Stones, Mpingo disks and other snakeoil crapola have a "subconcious effect" on the "vibrations"? :-D |
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oups.com... Mike McKelvy said to John Atkinson: You have yet to adequately address why your magazine has zero oversight on things like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, that make people laugh at you when you try to claim any sort of crediblity. They are fraud, and anyone with a shred of integrity would be offended to let the glowing reviews that the dolts at SP penned ever see light of day. Remember the days when Harry Pearson, et al, would say things like, "This is the same crap that XYZ has been putting out ..." I suppose money wins out in the end because you can't bite the hand that feeds you. If any one knows of a rebel, non-advertising audio magazine, please tell. Cordially, west |
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Jon Yaeger said: If any one knows of a rebel, non-advertising audio magazine, please tell. I don't think there is one, West. Why don't you start one? He can't. He doesn't have the $30 per month for web hosting. |
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In rec.audio.opinion west wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Mike McKelvy said to John Atkinson: You have yet to adequately address why your magazine has zero oversight on things like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, that make people laugh at you when you try to claim any sort of crediblity. They are fraud, and anyone with a shred of integrity would be offended to let the glowing reviews that the dolts at SP penned ever see light of day. Remember the days when Harry Pearson, et al, would say things like, "This is the same crap that XYZ has been putting out ..." I suppose money wins out in the end because you can't bite the hand that feeds you. If any one knows of a rebel, non-advertising audio magazine, please tell. Cordially, west here you go: http://www.theaudiocritic.com/cwo/Web_Zine/ -- -S "God is an asshole!" -- Ruth Fisher, 'Six Feet Under' |
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"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote in message ... Jon Yaeger said: If any one knows of a rebel, non-advertising audio magazine, please tell. I don't think there is one, West. Why don't you start one? He can't. He doesn't have the $30 per month for web hosting. If Middius had a clue about web hosting, he'd know that for $30 one can have a web site for about half a year. http://hostony.com/ I wish that I would have Reaped the web site that Middius threw together for Graham. It was a total train wreck, even as a parody of a train wreck! |
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:53:36 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com Mike McKelvy said to John Atkinson: You have yet to adequately address why your magazine has zero oversight on things like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, that make people laugh at you when you try to claim any sort of crediblity. They are fraud, and anyone with a shred of integrity would be offended to let the glowing reviews that the dolts at SP penned ever see light of day. (Begin Dance here) The "Atkinson Two-step"! I wonder at Audiophools like Paul Packer and the rest of the Middius dupes who don't seem to understand that SP's economically efficacious promotion of snake oil like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, is based on how incredibly easy it is to manipulate sighted evaluations. Don't take my name in vain, Arnie. First, I'm not a Middius dupe, or a Middius anything. Secondly I've never believed in anything more way out than damping spurious vibrations in CD player cases. Over the years I've laughed at most of the 'tweaks'; what you've mentioned above I've never even heard of, and would no doubt laugh harder if I had. Why accuse me of belief in hi-fi voodoo without a shred of evidence? |
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paul packer said: Don't take my name in vain, Arnie. First, I'm not a Middius dupe, or a Middius anything. Secondly I've never believed in anything more way out than damping spurious vibrations in CD player cases. Over the years I've laughed at most of the 'tweaks'; what you've mentioned above I've never even heard of, and would no doubt laugh harder if I had. Why accuse me of belief in hi-fi voodoo without a shred of evidence? Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evadence. Thats called niavate. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) |
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"arny krueger" wrote
I wish that I would have Reaped the web site that Middius threw together for Graham. It was a ... parody of a train wreck! Thanks for admitting Mr Krooger, that your website was a train wreck. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:40:12 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr
[underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote: paul packer said: Don't take my name in vain, Arnie. First, I'm not a Middius dupe, or a Middius anything. Secondly I've never believed in anything more way out than damping spurious vibrations in CD player cases. Over the years I've laughed at most of the 'tweaks'; what you've mentioned above I've never even heard of, and would no doubt laugh harder if I had. Why accuse me of belief in hi-fi voodoo without a shred of evidence? Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evadence. Thats called niavate. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) Nice impersonation, George. |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 05:29:14 -0400, "arny krueger"
wrote: I wish that I would have Reaped the web site that Middius threw together for Graham. It was a total train wreck, even as a parody of a train wreck! Thanks for admiting that your site is a "train wreck". |
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paul packer said: Why accuse me of belief in hi-fi voodoo without a shred of evidence? Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evadence. Thats called niavate. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) Nice impersonation, George. Thank you. Krooglish is pretty easy to mock. Try it and see. :-) |
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"Steven Sullivan" wrote in message ... In rec.audio.opinion west wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Mike McKelvy said to John Atkinson: You have yet to adequately address why your magazine has zero oversight on things like Shakti Stones and Mpingo disks, that make people laugh at you when you try to claim any sort of crediblity. They are fraud, and anyone with a shred of integrity would be offended to let the glowing reviews that the dolts at SP penned ever see light of day. Remember the days when Harry Pearson, et al, would say things like, "This is the same crap that XYZ has been putting out ..." I suppose money wins out in the end because you can't bite the hand that feeds you. If any one knows of a rebel, non-advertising audio magazine, please tell. Cordially, west here you go: http://www.theaudiocritic.com/cwo/Web_Zine/ Interesting article comparing Atkinson to Dr. Zaius, from Planet of the Apes. |
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"paul packer" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:40:12 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote: Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evadence. Thats called niavate. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. |
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" wrote in message nk.net... "Steven Sullivan" wrote in message ... here you go: http://www.theaudiocritic.com/cwo/Web_Zine/ Interesting article comparing Atkinson to Dr. Zaius, from Planet of the Apes. If you listen to Atkinson's and Middius' version of Science, it is clearly from an alternative universe. Sighted Listening tests - the same technology that gave us Green CD pens, Shakti stones and Mpingo disks. |
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EnvyBorg turns green. Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. Can anybody remember the last time somebody complimented Arnii for being clever? Anybody? Anybody at all.....? |
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The Krooborg's guts are churning. Sighted Listening tests - the same technology Thanks for admitting Mr. Krooborg that you have no idea what "technology" means. |
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George Middius wrote:
EnvyBorg turns green. Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. Can anybody remember the last time somebody complimented Arnii for being clever? Anybody? Anybody at all.....? Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? |
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More feces from the King of ****. Can anybody remember the last time somebody complimented Arnii for being clever? Anybody? Anybody at all.....? Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? God, you are so desperate. Doesn't the Big Sleep appeal to you at all? |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: EnvyBorg turns green. Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. Can anybody remember the last time somebody complimented Arnii for being clever? Anybody? Anybody at all.....? Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? Because he wanted to debate an insane person. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: EnvyBorg turns green. Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. Can anybody remember the last time somebody complimented Arnii for being clever? Anybody? Anybody at all.....? Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? Arny, he felt you were worth destroying. But when he had you in his sights, Atkinson's tender mercies let you live. We made the same mistake with Osama Bin Laden. We made the same |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:00:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:40:12 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote: Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evadence. Thats called niavate. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. That interpretation is your prerogative, Arnie. It just happens to be wrong, like nearly everything else you've said lately. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: EnvyBorg turns green. Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. Can anybody remember the last time somebody complimented Arnii for being clever? Anybody? Anybody at all.....? Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? Because he wanted to debate an insane person. Greg Singh wasn't available? |
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paul packer said: That interpretation is your prerogative, Arnie. It just happens to be wrong, like nearly everything else you've said lately. Krooger konveniently forgets that we used to squabble like a 'borg and a human fighting over who gets to have the remote. |
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"paul packer" wrote in message
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:00:57 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 07:40:12 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote: Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evidence. That's called naiveté. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. That interpretation is your prerogative, Arnie. Thanks for granting me the privilege of freedom of speech, Paul. It just happens to be wrong, like nearly everything else you've said lately. Yeah, sure. Hey Paul, you get to be the blind fool you are, and I get to be the smart, with-it guy I am. Seems like reward enough. ;-) |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:34:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evidence. That's called naiveté. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. That interpretation is your prerogative, Arnie. Thanks for granting me the privilege of freedom of speech, Paul. It just happens to be wrong, like nearly everything else you've said lately. Yeah, sure. Withering come-back. I'm shattered. Hey Paul, you get to be the blind fool you are, and I get to be the smart, with-it guy I am. Seems like reward enough. ;-) Now, Arnie, some unkind people here are suggesting you're insane. I'd take care not to give them any evidence if I were you. :-) |
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"paul packer" wrote in message
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:34:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Because Mr. Pocker its like you think you, can reject test's without any sicccnecicctfic evidence. That's called naiveté. Thanks Mr. Picker for admitting that you're against sicennece. LOt"S! ;-) Nice impersonation, George. Nice suck-up job, Paul. That interpretation is your prerogative, Arnie. Thanks for granting me the privilege of freedom of speech, Paul. It just happens to be wrong, like nearly everything else you've said lately. Yeah, sure. Withering come-back. I'm shattered. Hey Paul, you get to be the blind fool you are, and I get to be the smart, with-it guy I am. Seems like reward enough. ;-) Now, Arnie, some unkind people here are suggesting you're insane. Given who they are, I find it to be pretty funny. I'd take care not to give them any evidence if I were you. :-) But Paul, you're not me. Intellectually, you're probably about 70% of me. Morally, you are nowhere. |
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Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:34:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: snipped Now, Arnie, some unkind people here are suggesting you're insane. Given who they are, I find it to be pretty funny. Specifically they are the creature posting as "George Middius" (whose full blown psychosis is evidenced in the Google record) and John Atkinson (who never seems to notice or comment on the psychotic behavior of his suck-up-in-chief, "Middius"). Of course, given some of the nutballs Atkinson "manages" at SP, "Middius" may seem completely normal! Sad..... |
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ups.com Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:34:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: snipped Now, Arnie, some unkind people here are suggesting you're insane. Thanks Paul for admitting that Atkinson and Middius are not kind persons. Given who they are, I find it to be pretty funny. Specifically they are the creature posting as "George Middius" (whose full blown psychosis is evidenced in the Google record) Agreed. Middius is just a sockpuppet. So his psychosis is virtual. But, a tremendous amount of effort has been put into the Middius sockpuppet over the years for the purpose of harassing little ole' me. The energy behind that effort is hardly the product of a normal personality. Consider how few of the historical Middius hangers-on are still visible. and John Atkinson (who never seems to notice or comment on the psychotic behavior of his suck-up-in-chief, "Middius"). Agreed. It would be amusing to find out what the real connection between Middius and Atkinson is. I figure that Middius is animated by someone with the utmost respect for Atkinson, someone who has done all of the vile things that Middius did over the years, basically out of misplaced love and affection. Consider how much respect Atkinson would get from these parasites without the money and perceived status of Stereophile behind him. Of course, given some of the nutballs Atkinson "manages" at SP, "Middius" may seem completely normal! Atkinson and Fremer clearly live in the past, given the preeminence they have given to events that are at least a decade or two old. I feel sorry for losers like Paul Packer - these are his heroes! |
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Mickey tries (and fails) to rebut the charge of incurable stupidity. Because he wanted to debate an insane person. Greg Singh wasn't available? Mickey, seriously, do you think this is any cleverer than an IKYABWAI? It's an IKYABWIH. And Gregipus hasn't posted to RAO for years, which only increases the lameness factor. |
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Jon Yaeger wrote: in article , Arny Krueger at wrote on 8/18/05 8:40 AM: wrote in message ups.com Arny Krueger wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:34:28 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: snipped Now, Arnie, some unkind people here are suggesting you're insane. Thanks Paul for admitting that Atkinson and Middius are not kind persons. Given who they are, I find it to be pretty funny. Specifically they are the creature posting as "George Middius" (whose full blown psychosis is evidenced in the Google record) Agreed. Middius is just a sockpuppet. So his psychosis is virtual. But, a tremendous amount of effort has been put into the Middius sockpuppet over the years for the purpose of harassing little ole' me. The energy behind that effort is hardly the product of a normal personality. Consider how few of the historical Middius hangers-on are still visible. and John Atkinson (who never seems to notice or comment on the psychotic behavior of his suck-up-in-chief, "Middius"). Agreed. It would be amusing to find out what the real connection between Middius and Atkinson is. I figure that Middius is animated by someone with the utmost respect for Atkinson, someone who has done all of the vile things that Middius did over the years, basically out of misplaced love and affection. Consider how much respect Atkinson would get from these parasites without the money and perceived status of Stereophile behind him. Of course, given some of the nutballs Atkinson "manages" at SP, "Middius" may seem completely normal! Atkinson and Fremer clearly live in the past, given the preeminence they have given to events that are at least a decade or two old. I feel sorry for losers like Paul Packer - these are his heroes! It amazes me how Arnie, Middius, Atlkinson, Paul, et. al. can write so much and say absolutely nothing. Hey guys, please unsubscribe rec.audio.tubes from your drivel list. I'll wager that no one here cares who is insane, who is a sockpuppet, etc. We have enough of our own, and we're at least interested in tubes . . . . . I have to agree with you Jon. Why the **** do these nutters have to include rec.audio.tubes in their address list for their crap? Patrick Turner. |
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****tyborg counts his small blessings. That interpretation is your prerogative, Arnie. Thanks for granting me the privilege of freedom of speech, You should be grateful, Turdy. Once we get you committed, you won't even have that anymore. |
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"George Middius" wrote in
message Mickey tries (and fails) to rebut the charge of incurable stupidity. Because he wanted to debate an insane person. Greg Singh wasn't available? Mickey, seriously, do you think this is any cleverer than an IKYABWAI? It's intensely funny. George, your only problem with it is that its your ox that got gored this time. It's an IKYABWIH. Compare it to your typical Art Sackman post - how lame are those? Art doesn't seem to have enough active synapses to make a case for active consciousness, let along active insanity. And Gregipus hasn't posted to RAO for years, which only increases the lameness factor. George, given that the two of you used to be Resistance Central, that only makes it funnier. |
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"George Middius" wrote in
message That interpretation is your prerogative, Arnie. Thanks for granting me the privilege of freedom of speech, You should be grateful, Turdy. Once we get you committed, you won't even have that anymore. Ever had someone comitted, George? To do it, you need a court order. I can see it now, a sockpuppet trying to get a court order. LOL! George, you're nuts! |
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Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? Arny, he felt you were worth destroying. But when he had you in his sights, Atkinson's tender mercies let you live. :-) But destroying Arny Krueger was not my aim, please note. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile |
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"John Atkinson" wrote
in message oups.com Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? Arny, he felt you were worth destroying. But when he had you in his sights, Atkinson's tender mercies let you live. :-) But destroying Arny Krueger was not my aim, please note. John, destroying you was not my aim, either. I think you did a pretty good job on yourself because of your arrogance (lack of preparation) and lack of introspection (your discussion points were old and lame). You weren't destroyed but your dissembling since then has lowered you considerably in many people's eyes. I don't even ask about it, people just walk up and tell me these things. |
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"PLONK"! in article , Arny Krueger at wrote on 8/18/05 11:26 AM: "John Atkinson" wrote in message oups.com Robert Morein wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... George Middius wrote: Middius if you're so clever and interesting, why didn't Atkinson debate you at the HE2005 show? Arny, he felt you were worth destroying. But when he had you in his sights, Atkinson's tender mercies let you live. :-) But destroying Arny Krueger was not my aim, please note. John, destroying you was not my aim, either. I think you did a pretty good job on yourself because of your arrogance (lack of preparation) and lack of introspection (your discussion points were old and lame). You weren't destroyed but your dissembling since then has lowered you considerably in many people's eyes. I don't even ask about it, people just walk up and tell me these things. |
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