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Ronny Svensson
 
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What do you get when buying "cheap" valve amplifiers (Affordable Valve
Company, PrimaLuna etc.) compared to similar priced solid state
amplifiers. Any opinions on these brands or are they all the same?

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"Ronny Svensson" wrote in message
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What do you get when buying "cheap" valve amplifiers (Affordable Valve
Company, PrimaLuna etc.) compared to similar priced solid state
amplifiers. Any opinions on these brands or are they all the same?


**Probably cheap, crappy output transformers, as these are the most
expensive items. They also profoundly affect the sound.


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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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Sure, but if you go to Affordable Valve's web site, they pretty much give an
accurate description of their stuff, and speak of beefed up transformers, etc.
So, HOW do you really know then that their stuff is "cheap" (quality wise). Is
this why you made an "assumption"?

Chris

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Ronny Svensson" wrote in message
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What do you get when buying "cheap" valve amplifiers (Affordable Valve
Company, PrimaLuna etc.) compared to similar priced solid state
amplifiers. Any opinions on these brands or are they all the same?


**Probably cheap, crappy output transformers, as these are the most
expensive items. They also profoundly affect the sound.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


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Chris,
Simple, Ya gets what Ya pays pays for. Most of the time at least.

- Thank God we don't get the government we pay for. keithw...


"Chris Munson" wrote in message
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Sure, but if you go to Affordable Valve's web site, they pretty much give

an
accurate description of their stuff, and speak of beefed up transformers,

etc.
So, HOW do you really know then that their stuff is "cheap" (quality

wise). Is
this why you made an "assumption"?

Chris

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Ronny Svensson" wrote in message
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What do you get when buying "cheap" valve amplifiers (Affordable Valve
Company, PrimaLuna etc.) compared to similar priced solid state
amplifiers. Any opinions on these brands or are they all the same?


**Probably cheap, crappy output transformers, as these are the most
expensive items. They also profoundly affect the sound.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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"Keithw" wrote in message
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Chris,
Simple, Ya gets what Ya pays pays for. Most of the time at least.

- Thank God we don't get the government we pay for. keithw...


"Chris Munson" wrote in message
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Sure, but if you go to Affordable Valve's web site, they pretty much

give
an
accurate description of their stuff, and speak of beefed up

transformers,
etc.
So, HOW do you really know then that their stuff is "cheap" (quality

wise). Is
this why you made an "assumption"?


**No. I've seen quite a few inexpensive valve amps. None (that I've seen)
use decent output transformers. "Beefed up" is meaningless. I am more
interested in the number of interleaves and the quality of the steel.
Quality valve amps almost invariably entail quality output transformers.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au





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Well, I guess it is "buyer beware" then. My inexperience is showing, thanks!

Chris

Trevor Wilson wrote:

"Keithw" wrote in message
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Chris,
Simple, Ya gets what Ya pays pays for. Most of the time at least.

- Thank God we don't get the government we pay for. keithw...


"Chris Munson" wrote in message
...
Sure, but if you go to Affordable Valve's web site, they pretty much

give
an
accurate description of their stuff, and speak of beefed up

transformers,
etc.
So, HOW do you really know then that their stuff is "cheap" (quality

wise). Is
this why you made an "assumption"?


**No. I've seen quite a few inexpensive valve amps. None (that I've seen)
use decent output transformers. "Beefed up" is meaningless. I am more
interested in the number of interleaves and the quality of the steel.
Quality valve amps almost invariably entail quality output transformers.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


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"Chris Munson" wrote in message
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Well, I guess it is "buyer beware" then. My inexperience is showing,

thanks!


**It's not that difficult. If a thing appears too good to be true, it
usually is. Quality almost always costs money.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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