Robert L. Bass said:

Imagine what Melville might have written if he were our contemporary. :^)

"Drown all the Christians!"

Because Yamaha has a terrible reputation. Few Yamaha
products have ever gotten favorable reviews in the American
audiophile magazines, whereas Denon and Onkyo products
commonly do. Some of the worst-sounding surround
products I reviewed for Stereophile were Yamaha.

Most audiophile rags will publish a great review of any product for which
the manufacturer has taken out a 4-color, full page ad.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:57:38 -0400, "Robert L. Bass"
wrote:

Personally I prefer Moby Dick to the Bible.
I'd like to see more Melville refs and less
references to Bibles and Jesus and such, generally.

WHAT WOULD ISHMAEL DO?

Interesting choice of literature. One of the many undercurrents of "Moby
Dick" was the strange friendship between two of the protagonists -- Ishmael
and Queequeg -- who agreed to disagree on matters of religion.

"Their achievement of mutual tolerance, coming as it does before the
monomaniac Ahab has appeared on the scene, forms both a prelude and a
contrast to the book's main story, suggesting mixity and non-dogmatism as an
alternative to Ahab's confrontational, all-or-nothing relation to the
universe." -- CHRISTOPHER ROLLASON

Imagine what Melville might have written if he were our contemporary. :^)

The right wing Christians would screem for him to be pulled off of the
shelves because he was gay.

cue sarcasm alert

You should have been drowned when they baptized you.

I wonder if you would actually be willing to kill someone for saying that
they believe. More to the point, I hope I would have the strength of
character to stand up for my beliefs if that was about to happen. :^)

"Drown all the Christians!"

That's been tried. They've also been hung, speared, jailed, beheaded,
crucified, etc (though not all at once) over the centuries. Somehow
Christianity not only remains but spreads despite all those efforts to stamp
it out. Maybe there's more to it than you realize. :^)

Isn't it on an old 78 some where? g

Eight track.

Robert L. Bass said:

You should have been drowned when they baptized you.

I wonder if you would actually be willing to kill someone for saying that
they believe.

Of course not. Your behavior goes far beyond simply believing a bunch
of superstition and hooey, and that's why the rest of us deserve a
break from you.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:05:41 -0400, "Robert L. Bass"
wrote:

Because Yamaha has a terrible reputation. Few Yamaha
products have ever gotten favorable reviews in the American
audiophile magazines, whereas Denon and Onkyo products
commonly do. Some of the worst-sounding surround
products I reviewed for Stereophile were Yamaha.

Most audiophile rags will publish a great review of any product for which
the manufacturer has taken out a 4-color, full page ad.

Did Jesus whisper this in your ear?

I really can't say. I've only seen him post about
audio and in that regard he's knowledgeable and
seems fair minded enough.

You really think that the things that he's been posting
about me are 'fair-minded"?

I saw a few comments about you supposedly posting "pedophile fantasies" but
didn't find the original reference. Unless I see such a post I give no
credence to the claim. That's a two-way street though. You can say he's
voile and disgusting but unless I see proof that he is such I will go on my
own (limited) observation. So far he's OK in my book (no, not *that* book).

Oh wait - maybe you're only reading this on one
of the groups *not* rec.audio.opinion.

It looks like the two of you have had an ongoing war of words for a while.

I'd suggest you taking a meander over there and see
the things he's been writing about me.

I see both of you posting unpleasantness about each other.

If you want to know the truth about Mr. Krueger,
you'll have to go there to see his true nature.

Nobody's perfect (with One notable exception). I'm no angel either. If
someone provokes me long enough I can get pretty nasty too. I'm not about
to go on an archeological expedition looking for who started what. Arny can
get angry at times and so, apparently, can you. None of that has much to do
with Yamaha, Denon, Jesus or me.

Regards,
Robert

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Hmm. I've only seen Arny post about things related to audio.
I don't recall him ever posting anything about Christianity before.
Maybe I missed something.

You missed 90% of Krooger's droppings.

I've been arguing with Arny ad infinitum, and I've never gotten the remotest
clue about his religious feelings from his postings.

Robert L. Bass said:

"Drown all the Christians!"

That's been tried. They've also been hung, speared, jailed, beheaded,
crucified, etc (though not all at once) over the centuries. Somehow
Christianity not only remains but spreads despite all those efforts to stamp
it out. Maybe there's more to it than you realize. :^)

I realize that millions of nitwits want to be brainwashed and have
other people tell them what to do. Your "christian" beliefs are the
cause of most of this country's social problems, and they cost us all
billions of bucks every year in misspent tax dollars.

Maybe you're right though. Crucifying the worst of your lot seems
better than a quiet drowning.

Willie Sommerdork said:

You missed 90% of Krooger's droppings.

I've been arguing with Arny ad infinitum, and I've never gotten the remotest
clue about his religious feelings from his postings.

That means you're as blindered as that Bass idiot.

The right wing Christians would screem for
him to be pulled off of the shelves because
he was gay.

You're confusing Christians in general with the radical right. Most of us
are much more tolerant than you might think. Bear in mind that the radical
"Christian Right" is neither Christian nor right much of the time. Just as
Muslims have a small group of crazies who think they serve Allah by
murdering innocent civilians, there are a small group of loud-mouthed,
Bible-thumping jerks who use Christianity as an excuse to attack everyone
different from themselves. Most Muslims find their crazies repugnant and
most Christians find our own group of crazies despicable.

Please don't confuse Christianity with the politics of Pat Robertson and
other such monsters. We're not all machine gun-toting lemmings following
deluded, racist bigots to the precipice and killing "heathen" along the way.
There are plenty of us who don't believe in abortion but we don't ally
ourselves with the nut-cases who bomb clinics and murder doctors. We may
not believe in homosexuality but that doesn't mean we condemn homosexuals.

As a conservative Christian I believe that it is my responsibility to try to
live right and to exercise my faith -- not to force you to believe as I do.
Unfortunately, a few self-appointed "leaders" have given the rest of us a
bad name. They run around condemning others as "sinners" while ignoring the
major problems in their own lives.

In article ,
"Robert L. Bass" wrote:

Personally I prefer Moby Dick to the Bible.
I'd like to see more Melville refs and less
references to Bibles and Jesus and such, generally.

WHAT WOULD ISHMAEL DO?

Interesting choice of literature. One of the many undercurrents of "Moby
Dick" was the strange friendship between two of the protagonists -- Ishmael
and Queequeg -- who agreed to disagree on matters of religion.

"Their achievement of mutual tolerance, coming as it does before the
monomaniac Ahab has appeared on the scene, forms both a prelude and a
contrast to the book's main story, suggesting mixity and non-dogmatism as an
alternative to Ahab's confrontational, all-or-nothing relation to the
universe." -- CHRISTOPHER ROLLASON

Imagine what Melville might have written if he were our contemporary. :^)



I prefer not to.

Stephen

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:29:56 -0400, "Robert L. Bass"
wrote:

I really can't say. I've only seen him post about
audio and in that regard he's knowledgeable and
seems fair minded enough.

You really think that the things that he's been posting
about me are 'fair-minded"?

I saw a few comments about you supposedly posting "pedophile fantasies"

No, I don't think he has accused me of that.

but
didn't find the original reference. Unless I see such a post I give no
credence to the claim. That's a two-way street though. You can say he's
voile and disgusting but unless I see proof that he is such I will go on my
own (limited) observation. So far he's OK in my book (no, not *that* book).

Oh wait - maybe you're only reading this on one
of the groups *not* rec.audio.opinion.

It looks like the two of you have had an ongoing war of words for a while.

Absolutely.

I'd suggest you taking a meander over there and see
the things he's been writing about me.

I see both of you posting unpleasantness about each other.

Absolutely.

If you want to know the truth about Mr. Krueger,
you'll have to go there to see his true nature.

Nobody's perfect (with One notable exception). I'm no angel either. If
someone provokes me long enough I can get pretty nasty too. I'm not about
to go on an archeological expedition looking for who started what. Arny can
get angry at times and so, apparently, can you. None of that has much to do
with Yamaha, Denon, Jesus or me.

Agreed.

However, Arnold's anger knows no bounds.

Still, if you're going to make statements like "I've only seen him
post about audio and in that regard he's knowledgeable and seems fair
minded enough", you really *should* do your homework. 90% of the posts
that he makes on RAO are non-audio personal attack posts. Yes, 90% is
just a ballpark figure.

Regards,
Robert

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MiNE 109 said:

Imagine what Melville might have written if he were our contemporary. :^)

I prefer not to.

Sorry, you're in church now. You have to do what the preacher tells
you to do.

In alt.home-theater.misc Robert L. Bass wrote:
"Blaring' is by definition annoying, whether it comes
from passing automobiles with their subwoofers
cranked, or from passing believers with their faith
cranked. It's most considerate of others to keep it to
yourself in both cases, rather than blaring.

Interesting. I made an 8-word side comment within an on-topic post in the
middle of a thread about Yamaha and Denon receivers.

Yeah, why was that?

Several other folks
got very nasty in their responses, posted insults and flames. Yet you worry
that whether my comment about my personal beliefs might offend someone
else's sensibilities.


So, you blared, and others blared back telling you to shut up.

That tends to happen after blaring.

Like I said, best to keep it to yourself.



--
-S.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:52:05 -0400, "Robert L. Bass"
wrote:

The right wing Christians would screem for
him to be pulled off of the shelves because
he was gay.

You're confusing Christians in general with the radical right.

No. I said right wing Christians. I didn't say Christians.

No confusion there. I was quite specific.

Most of us are much more tolerant than you might think.

I actually have a good friend that I would consider a right-wing
Christian in many ways. However, he's a tolerant guy, as well as being
one of the most knowlegeable people about modern popular music around.
So your statement even applies to a small segment of the right-wing
Christian community as well.

Bear in mind that the radical
"Christian Right" is neither Christian nor right much of the time. Just as
Muslims have a small group of crazies who think they serve Allah by
murdering innocent civilians, there are a small group of loud-mouthed,
Bible-thumping jerks who use Christianity as an excuse to attack everyone
different from themselves. Most Muslims find their crazies repugnant and
most Christians find our own group of crazies despicable.

Please don't confuse Christianity with the politics of Pat Robertson and
other such monsters.

They are right wing Christians. You can't deny that they consider
themselves Christians.

We're not all machine gun-toting lemmings following
deluded, racist bigots to the precipice and killing "heathen" along the way.
There are plenty of us who don't believe in abortion but we don't ally
ourselves with the nut-cases who bomb clinics and murder doctors. We may
not believe in homosexuality but that doesn't mean we condemn homosexuals.

But some of you do - even some not on the right wing.

As a conservative Christian I believe that it is my responsibility to try to
live right and to exercise my faith -- not to force you to believe as I do.

That's a good way to live.

Unfortunately, a few self-appointed "leaders" have given the rest of us a
bad name. They run around condemning others as "sinners" while ignoring the
major problems in their own lives.

I would also agree with that.

PS, I'm not confusing Melville with Whitman, who actually *was* gay,
BTW. I was just being sarcastic.

dave weil said:

PS, I'm not confusing Melville with Whitman, who actually *was* gay,
BTW. I was just being sarcastic.


"A man of deep and noble nature had seized me in this seclusion....
The soft ravishments of the man spun me round about in a web of
dreams.... But already I feel that this Hawthorne has dropped
germinous seeds into my soul. He expands and deepens down, the more I
contemplate him; and further and further shoots his strong New England
roots into the hot soil of my Southern soul."

Full text at http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/melville_1.html

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:00:00 -0400, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:



dave weil said:

PS, I'm not confusing Melville with Whitman, who actually *was* gay,
BTW. I was just being sarcastic.


"A man of deep and noble nature had seized me in this seclusion....
The soft ravishments of the man spun me round about in a web of
dreams.... But already I feel that this Hawthorne has dropped
germinous seeds into my soul. He expands and deepens down, the more I
contemplate him; and further and further shoots his strong New England
roots into the hot soil of my Southern soul."

Full text at http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/melville_1.html

Well, my sarcastic reference did encompass his "relationship" with
Hawthorne, as well as a dig at writing about sailors, but, other than
your quoted prose, which is pretty unveiled for the times, is there
any evidence that he was indeed gay? Or do you think it was
sublimated?

What did his wife have to say on the subject?

(and no, I'm not implying that he couldn't be gay because he was
married)

in article , Robert L. Bass at
wrote on 9/25/03 14.52:

The right wing Christians would screem for
him to be pulled off of the shelves because
he was gay.

You're confusing Christians in general with the radical right. Most of us
are much more tolerant than you might think. Bear in mind that the radical
"Christian Right" is neither Christian nor right much of the time. Just as
Muslims have a small group of crazies who think they serve Allah by
murdering innocent civilians, there are a small group of loud-mouthed,
Bible-thumping jerks who use Christianity as an excuse to attack everyone
different from themselves. Most Muslims find their crazies repugnant and
most Christians find our own group of crazies despicable.

Please don't confuse Christianity with the politics of Pat Robertson and
other such monsters. We're not all machine gun-toting lemmings following
deluded, racist bigots to the precipice and killing "heathen" along the way.
There are plenty of us who don't believe in abortion but we don't ally
ourselves with the nut-cases who bomb clinics and murder doctors. We may
not believe in homosexuality but that doesn't mean we condemn homosexuals.

As a conservative Christian I believe that it is my responsibility to try to
live right and to exercise my faith -- not to force you to believe as I do.
Unfortunately, a few self-appointed "leaders" have given the rest of us a
bad name. They run around condemning others as "sinners" while ignoring the
major problems in their own lives.



Couldn't have said it better myself.

Funny how these people who want to attack 'Christians' don't do enough real
looking to make sure they've got the target right. Shoot first and ask
questions later.

You're more then free to belive that its a bunch of superstition and
nonsense. For all I know you could be right...

For all you know, so could I...

Probably better not to press the issue then huh?

J

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416.524.6927

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 16:49:26 -0400, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

Funny how these people who want to attack 'Christians' don't do enough real
looking to make sure they've got the target right. Shoot first and ask
questions later.

Did you miss my clear statement that I was referring only to
"right-wing Christians"? Or were you too busy judging?

Josh Snider wrote:
in article , Robert L. Bass at
wrote on 9/25/03 14.52:


The right wing Christians would screem for
him to be pulled off of the shelves because
he was gay.

You're confusing Christians in general with the radical right. Most of us
are much more tolerant than you might think. Bear in mind that the radical
"Christian Right" is neither Christian nor right much of the time. Just as
Muslims have a small group of crazies who think they serve Allah by
murdering innocent civilians, there are a small group of loud-mouthed,
Bible-thumping jerks who use Christianity as an excuse to attack everyone
different from themselves. Most Muslims find their crazies repugnant and
most Christians find our own group of crazies despicable.

Please don't confuse Christianity with the politics of Pat Robertson and
other such monsters. We're not all machine gun-toting lemmings following
deluded, racist bigots to the precipice and killing "heathen" along the way.
There are plenty of us who don't believe in abortion but we don't ally
ourselves with the nut-cases who bomb clinics and murder doctors. We may
not believe in homosexuality but that doesn't mean we condemn homosexuals.

As a conservative Christian I believe that it is my responsibility to try to
live right and to exercise my faith -- not to force you to believe as I do.
Unfortunately, a few self-appointed "leaders" have given the rest of us a
bad name. They run around condemning others as "sinners" while ignoring the
major problems in their own lives.




Couldn't have said it better myself.

Funny how these people who want to attack 'Christians' don't do enough real
looking to make sure they've got the target right. Shoot first and ask
questions later.

You're more then free to belive that its a bunch of superstition and
nonsense. For all I know you could be right...

For all you know, so could I...

Probably better not to press the issue then huh?

J

All I have to say is "Prove it!", and your argument doesn't exist. One
cannot justify faith...so YOU drop it.

dave weil said:

PS, I'm not confusing Melville with Whitman, who actually *was* gay,
BTW. I was just being sarcastic.


"A man of deep and noble nature had seized me in this seclusion....
The soft ravishments of the man spun me round about in a web of
dreams.... But already I feel that this Hawthorne has dropped
germinous seeds into my soul. He expands and deepens down, the more I
contemplate him; and further and further shoots his strong New England
roots into the hot soil of my Southern soul."

Full text at http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/melville_1.html

Well, my sarcastic reference did encompass his "relationship" with
Hawthorne, as well as a dig at writing about sailors, but, other than
your quoted prose, which is pretty unveiled for the times, is there
any evidence that he was indeed gay? Or do you think it was
sublimated?

I'm no scholar, but some scholars of that period do think he was a
closet case. A lot of it came from "Billy Budd", as you alluded to. Of
course, just writing about Gayness doesn't prove anything, but you
know how people love to gossip.



What did his wife have to say on the subject?

(and no, I'm not implying that he couldn't be gay because he was
married)

Dunno. I don't think she was a writer of note, though.

Just for the record.... In the bible, It says that Jesus spoke to people
everywhere and all the time.

It also says that person were to follow in his footsteps and preach and
teach everywhere.

Therefore, If Christians believe the Bible, then they have no choice but to
speak of it everywhere and all the time.

Now let's drop it guys. Let's not make it a religious forum, but let's not
get carried away trying to force non religious views either.
Clay


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Robert L. Bass said:

FTR, you are responding to Arny. He didn't thump anything. The comment
about Jesus was in my post.

Yes, you've shown yourself to be a deluded clown, no question. Krooger
has both the same affliction, however, and equally no shame about
admitting his anti-science superstitions in public, and on top of that
he's vile and disgusting beyond words.

I'm constantly amazed that you jesus freaks and bible-thumpers think
you should blare your stupidity to the whole world. Do you consider
yourself an advocate of science, like your demented friend Krooger
does? Your bible is nothing but an ancient text, written by people
whose knowledge of the cosmos was so primitive it didn't even include
Earth being a satellite of the Sun. If you think such a book could be
a valid explanation of the origin of life on Earth, you have a screw
loose.

PS, I'm not confusing Melville with Whitman, who actually
*was* gay, BTW. I was just being sarcastic.

Yeah, but there's no doubt Herman had strong same-sex feelings he was probably
consciously aware of. He was fully aware of what -- uh -- seamen did "below
deck." (Joke intended.) He mentions it in at least one novel.

And then there's that notorious scene at the beginning of "Moby Dick." I knew
someone who grew up in New England, where "Moby Dick" was required reading in
high school. He told me the editions they read altered that scene to remove the
implicitly sexual elements. Which is most of the scene.

The famous lines about Hawthorne are also telling.

It also says that person were to follow in his footsteps
and preach and teach everywhere.

And heal people, too... Which everyone conveniently ignores. If you can't heal,
you're not a Christian.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Andrew M." wrote in message
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There are NO absolute truths.

In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human knowledge,
that's probably true.

Maybe you aren't a turd afterall.
Nah, there ARE absolute truths.




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My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.


All of your remarks are entierly non-Christian.




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Interesting. I made an 8-word side comment within an on-topic post in the
middle of a thread about Yamaha and Denon receivers. Several other folks
got very nasty in their responses, posted insults and flames. Yet you
worry
that whether my comment about my personal beliefs might offend someone
else's sensibilities.

Your personal beliefs were stated as being an "Absolute Truth".
That is waht made it so offensive to a number of people.




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You should have been drowned when they baptized you.

I wonder if you would actually be willing to kill someone for saying that
they believe. More to the point, I hope I would have the strength of
character to stand up for my beliefs if that was about to happen. :^)


History is replete with a massive number of Christians who have
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"Drown all the Christians!"

That's been tried. They've also been hung, speared, jailed, beheaded,
crucified, etc (though not all at once) over the centuries.

That's only because other religions are as bad as Christianity, rather
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"Robert L. Bass" wrote in message
...
The right wing Christians would screem for
him to be pulled off of the shelves because
he was gay.

You're confusing Christians in general with the radical right.

For the most part, the radical right is a Fundamentalist
Christian agenda.

Most of us
are much more tolerant than you might think. Bear in mind that the
radical
"Christian Right" is neither Christian nor right much of the time. Just
as
Muslims have a small group of crazies who think they serve Allah by
murdering innocent civilians, there are a small group of loud-mouthed,
Bible-thumping jerks who use Christianity as an excuse to attack everyone
different from themselves. Most Muslims find their crazies repugnant and
most Christians find our own group of crazies despicable.


I have doubts about your tolerance of those who don't accept your
premises of the Absolute truth of Jesus and his unique perfection.


Please don't confuse Christianity with the politics of Pat Robertson and
other such monsters. We're not all machine gun-toting lemmings following
deluded, racist bigots to the precipice and killing "heathen" along the
way.
There are plenty of us who don't believe in abortion but we don't ally
ourselves with the nut-cases who bomb clinics and murder doctors. We may
not believe in homosexuality but that doesn't mean we condemn homosexuals.

As a conservative Christian I believe that it is my responsibility to try
to
live right and to exercise my faith -- not to force you to believe as I
do.

Well, than it must NOT be the "absolute truth" that Jesus is the one
and only son of God. It is merely just your "belief" that he is.






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"Drown all the Christians!"

That's been tried. They've also been hung, speared, jailed, beheaded,
crucified, etc (though not all at once) over the centuries. Somehow
Christianity not only remains but spreads despite all those efforts to
stamp
it out. Maybe there's more to it than you realize. :^)

I realize that millions of nitwits want to be brainwashed and have
other people tell them what to do. Your "christian" beliefs are the
cause of most of this country's social problems, and they cost us all
billions of bucks every year in misspent tax dollars.

Hmm. I believe in Jesus. I believe in individual responsibility, personal
charity and basic decency. I also believe that it's not my job to tell you
or anyone else how to live. My idea of "righteousness" has more to do with
what I must do than what you must do. How much did the state "misspend"
because of those beliefs?

Perhaps you have me confused with some loud-mouthed, right wing bigots who
use "Christianity" as a political banner. If so, you're mistaken. Just
like blacks, Puerto Ricans, Brazilians and Muslims; not all Christians are
cut from the same mold.

Maybe you're right though. Crucifying the worst
of your lot seems better than a quiet drowning.

You're too kind. :^)

Most audiophile rags will publish a great review
of any product for which the manufacturer has
taken out a 4-color, full page ad.

Did Jesus whisper this in your ear?

Nope. Elvis. :^)

William Sommerwerck wrote:


If you can't heal,
you're not a Christian.

Not an accurate statement. A better one would be if you can heal you may
be a Christian.

Sockpuppet Yustabe wrote:


History is replete with a massive number of Christians who have
killed others for their beliefs.

No group has a monopoly on that one..

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 18:37:16 -0400, "Robert L. Bass"
wrote:

Most audiophile rags will publish a great review
of any product for which the manufacturer has
taken out a 4-color, full page ad.

Did Jesus whisper this in your ear?

Nope. Elvis. :^)

Costello?

I saw a few comments about you supposedly posting "pedophile fantasies"

No, I don't think he has accused me of that.

Sorry. That must have been the other gentleman. The same rule applies
though. If I didn't see him do it I take accusations posted in USENET with
a large grain of salt.

It looks like the two of you have had an
ongoing war of words for a while.

Absolutely.

I see both of you posting unpleasantness about each other.

Absolutely.

None of that has much to do
with Yamaha, Denon, Jesus or me.

Agreed.

However, Arnold's anger knows no bounds.

Still, if you're going to make statements like "I've
only seen him post about audio and in that regard
he's knowledgeable and seems fair minded enough",
you really *should* do your homework.

I respectfully disagree. My statement stands. I only said what I have
seen. If he has said something which you consider offensive in a newsgroup
which I don't read, that is between you and him. If I wanted to dig deep
enough I'm sure I could find someone somewhere who hates just about anyone
who has spent any significant time posting to USENET. By the time I finish
I won't want to converse with anyone. I don't come here to find out if Arny
has some dirty linens elsewhere. For that matter, I don't have any reason
to believe that he does. When he posts about audio I read it. Sometimes I
agree. Sometimes not. Sometimes I learn something from him. There may
even be times when he learns something from me. The same applies to you.
I'd rather know what you have to say here than try to find evidence
somewhere that you're a bad guy.

90% of the posts that he makes on RAO are...

Of no concern to me. That also applies to your posts there. You may be the
finest gentleman who has ever graced that newsgroup or the worst
sludge-tossing boor in all history. If you contribute useful stuff -- even
stuff with which I might not agree -- you're OK in my book. By the same
token if you post a bunch of abuse at me without provocation I'll probably
chalk you up as useless even if you have solved world peace in another
forum.

Fair enough?

you missed the point. Let's drop it!
Clay

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There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!
"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message
...
It also says that person were to follow in his footsteps
and preach and teach everywhere.

And heal people, too... Which everyone conveniently ignores. If you can't
heal,
you're not a Christian.