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Prosecution of the Heretical Two (H2). Simon Sheppard was found guilty
on Friday July 14, 2008 of eleven counts of ‘race hate’ - all relating
to internet publishing posted in Torrance, California - words
protected by the First Amendment! Stephen Whittle (Luke O'Farrell) was
found guilty on five counts also relating to internet publishing. The
case had some analogies with the (failed) extradition hearings in
London for Dr Toben's deportation for trial in Germany for ‘holocaust
denial’ and with the Zundel trial. However the Germans claim
jurisdiction over German nationals even if they post material on the
internet abroad and / or live abroad. In the case of the H2 an English
court went further still by asserting jurisdiction over writings on
the internet if they could be downloaded in England. Simon's remaining
seven charges were considered by the jury the following Monday. These
related mainly to printed material on which the jury was unable to
reach a decision. However, the authorities neglected to take their
passports and they left over the weekend for Ireland, then flew to Los
Angeles International Airport (LAX) and surrendered to officials in
order to seek political asylum in the U.S.A. The law over internet
publishing in the UK had been reinterpreted without debate to end
freedom of speech on the internet, presumably acting on the orders of
their masters in the E.U. and the Heretical Two were facing the
imminent prospect of lengthy prison sentences. They were held under
the Department of Homeland Security (D.H.S.) System at Santa Ana Jail,
P.O. Box 22003, Santa Ana, CA 92701, USA. Correspondents were asked
not to place return address stickers on envelopes; as all letters with
labels of any kind were sent back marked unauthorized. They could only
send two replies per week so used this site to thank the many people
who had already written with messages of support and requested they
kept writing, as it all helped. They also thanked those who
contributed to the defense funds. Jailed British ‘Heretics’ Hire
Asylum Lawyer The first immigration court session was held on
September 17 with Bruce Leichty as defense attorney. The judge claimed
that she did not have the power to release the Heretical Two under the
defensive procedures adopted by the US authorities. The ‘asylum-only
proceedings’ for the Heretical Two was heard by immigration judge,
Rose Peters, on October 14. An attempt to get them released before the
ruling on asylum was denied by the judge, whose reasoning appeared
contradictory. At the ‘calendar meeting’ of the immigration court on
Thursday 13 November - the judge set the merits (main) appeal for
three afternoons in blocks of four hours from 2 pm on March 10, 12 and
24 of 2009. The H2 spend were still detained in jail in California for
activities in America which the British government now deems to be
crimes, i.e. exercising the right to free speech, but which ironically
are not held to be crimes under American law. In December Simon's
retrial was held in his absence, as the British government was not
prepared to wait for the outcome of the political asylum proceedings
in the US. The new trial commenced on Monday December 8 at Leeds Crown
Court and six charges were considered - one charge was dropped. The
trial was deferred on December 22 to January 5, 2009 - the following
day the jury went out to deliberate and on January 8 found Simon
guilty on three counts relating to Tales of the Holocaust and later in
the day, by a majority verdict on two charges relating to Don't be
Sheeple - even Professor Rabkin's cogent arguments that the Jews were
a religion and not a race had failed to impress the jury. The
establishment had so far effectively managed to contain reporting on
the trials and asylum attempt to cold and slanted reports in the
Yorkshire and Lancashire media, without any discussion of the many
issues arising the case. The H2 belatedly obtained considerable
publicity in this area - The Yorkshire Post carried the most extensive
reports. The Main Hearing on March 10 only lasted 90 minutes and
concerned documentation.

Reports on the Hearings on March 12 and 24 follow: .... the Heretical
Two’s asylum hearing proceeded before the U. S. Immigration Judge, Her
Honor..Judge Rose Peters. Simon Sheppard and Steve Whittle (who were
brought into court in handcuffs and leg irons, which, they confirmed,
is standard procedure when asylum seekers are held in detention
pending the hearing of their case, and not victimization of
themselves) - the H2 presented their own cases. The U. S. government
was represented by its attorney, Miss Myers. The Court heard evidence
from Simon and Steve about their experiences at the hands of the
British police and Crown Prosecution Service, and also from their
English counsel, Adrian Davies, who gave evidence about the relevant
provisions of English law (the Public Order Act 1986, as amended) and
the English Court’s assertion of jurisdiction over web pages hosted on
a server located in Torrance, California. The hearing was conducted in
a very fair, courteous and thorough manner, though inevitably Simon
and Steve were at some disadvantage, because they are not lawyers, and
are moreover being held in prison, where they have had very limited
facilities to prepare for the hearing. After a lengthy sitting, the
Court adjourned to 1 p.m., West Coast time, on March 24, when Simon
and Steve will address the Court on their own behalf, and Miss Myers
will make representations on behalf of the U. S. government. [Report
ends]. To-day, Tuesday, 24 March, HHJ Peters heard closing arguments
from Miss Myers, counsel for the U. S. government, and Messrs Sheppard
and Whittle on their own behalf. At the conclusion of the argument,
HHJ Peters reserved judgment, which she will hand down in writing in
due course. Since the case of the Heretical Two involves unusual
questions of fact and law and more documentary evidence than is usual
in asylum hearings, the judge’s decision to reserve her judgment was
not surprising. It will probably be delivered within 30 days. In the
meanwhile, Messrs Sheppard and Whittle remain in...Santa Ana jail.
[Report Ends]. The Leeds Crown Court Hearing on March 30 was deferred
until May 15 to await the decision of the American asylum court. There
has been further limited reporting in the UK - Yorkshire Post March 31
and Hull and East Riding News March 28

The Heretical Two lost their Claim for asylum on April 5 - anglo-
phobic ‘judge’ Peters, had previously supported the cause of Sean
Kelly (O'Cealleagh). She granted asylum to this IRA member because "it
was a purely political case". Ulster Unionist MP David Burnside called
the decision "disgraceful and despicable." Kelly was one of three men
sentenced to life for the public beating, stripping and shooting of
Corporals Derek Wood and David Howes in Belfast in 1988. He had been
released under the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, relocated to
the USA, and then post-9/11 served with a deportation order. The H2
had 30 days to appeal against the, clearly, pre determined decision,
but Simon subsequently contacted the authorities to say that they
would not appeal. Simon and Steve were deported from LAX on June 16,
arrived in London June 17, where they were arrested, taken briefly to
Leeds court, and then to prison. Please write to them at HMP Leeds, 2
Gloucester Terrace, Stanningley Road, Leeds, LS12 2TJ, UK - Simon's
prison number is A8042AA - Wing 03-28, and Steve's number is A8041AA -
Wing E5-19,. Please note that any postal order should be paid in
Pounds Sterling and should have ‘HMP Services’ written on the front
and prisoner's name and number on the back together with the name and
address of the sender. Any books for the H2 should be sent to ‘The
Secretary, BM BOX 5581, LONDON WC1N 3XX’ and will then be forwarded,
as books have to be delivered by someone visiting the prison, not by
post. The Heretical Two would like to express their sincere thanks to
all their American supporters who wrote with letters of support,
visited and sent in funds.The H2 appeared in Leeds Crown Court again
on Friday on July 10 for sentencing. Simon received a 4 year and 10
month sentence and Stephen a two year and four month sentence. The
savage sentencing revealing the visceral hatred of the British
Establishment for their enemies. On Tuesday, July 14 the Court of
Appeal (Richards LJ, Jack J and HHJ Baker QC) gave leave to appeal
against conviction on all the Internet counts, but refused leave to
appeal with respect to the hard copy counts. The full appeal hearing
will take place later this year, and take a day.
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"Bret L" wrote in message
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In other words, AGW is horse****.


**Well, no. Feel free to submit your evidence. Make certain it comes from a
reputable scientific source. Those whacko religious/right wing political
sources don't count. In your evidence, please explain how the glaciers in
Greenland are moving towards the sea at a rate which is much faster than a
few decades ago. Here's some cites that you need to refute:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0527121055.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_ice_sheet

http://images.google.com.au/images?h...title&resnum=4

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=3606

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/0...sea-level.html

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science...ing/index.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...glaciers-melti

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...aciers-melting

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...el-predicts-gr

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ise-sea-levels


OTOH, we may be in for an ice age,

**********. Complete ********, in fact. There is zero evidence of such a
thing. The TREND in world temepatures is clearly up. Year to year variations
are to be expected, but the TREND is up.

no matter what we do. In fact, doing nothing may be far better than
the wrong thing.


**More ********. Here's some stuff that we know (beyond any doubt):

* Since the dawn of the industrial revolution, CO2 levels have risen by more
than 30%.
* CO2 is a known greehouse gas (GHG).
* Ice core data tells us that the rise in temperatures is faster than at any
time in the last 600,000 years.
* Ice core data tells us that the rise in CO2 levels is faster than at any
time in the last 600,000 years.
* Ice core data tells us that CO2 levels and temperatures are closely
linked. Sometimes CO2 leads temperature rise and sometimes it lags.

The real concern is that we *may* be approaching a 'tipping point', beyond
which there is nothing humans can do to stave off disaster. Most scientists
feel that this level is around 500ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. A handful of
scientists believe it is already too late. Either way, we need to address
the issue right now. There is deep concern that the release of methane from
permafrost areas will cause global warming to become unmanageable. Methane
is a more powerful GHG than CO2.



--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


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