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Hi smart people:
I have a Delphi Roady2 unit and three cars. The Roady 2 has a
cassette adapter like a portable CD would use and also has an FM
modulator. The FM modulator works great in my primary car.

Problem:
My other two cars are classics which both have their original AM only
radios. I have no desire to replace the radio.

I have installed and amp and two 6x9s in the back of one of the cars.
I then use the headphone jack from my portable cd to the line level of
the amp. Works fine. However the Roady2 unit doesn't have a
headphone jack or a volume control. It does have a low level output
to feed the cassette inteface device.

I am now looking for some device that I can put between the Roady2 and
the amp so that I can control the volume. Does such a creature exist?

Steve B.
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I believe you can adjust the output level under the menu.

"Steve B." this is not my real [email protected] wrote in message
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Hi smart people:
I have a Delphi Roady2 unit and three cars. The Roady 2 has a
cassette adapter like a portable CD would use and also has an FM
modulator. The FM modulator works great in my primary car.

Problem:
My other two cars are classics which both have their original AM only
radios. I have no desire to replace the radio.

I have installed and amp and two 6x9s in the back of one of the cars.
I then use the headphone jack from my portable cd to the line level of
the amp. Works fine. However the Roady2 unit doesn't have a
headphone jack or a volume control. It does have a low level output
to feed the cassette inteface device.

I am now looking for some device that I can put between the Roady2 and
the amp so that I can control the volume. Does such a creature exist?

Steve B.



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Kirby
 
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Surprisingly, I've been lurking on the same question for some time, only for
a home audio device.


"Steve B." this is not my real [email protected] wrote in message
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Hi smart people:
I have a Delphi Roady2 unit and three cars. The Roady 2 has a
cassette adapter like a portable CD would use and also has an FM
modulator. The FM modulator works great in my primary car.

Problem:
My other two cars are classics which both have their original AM only
radios. I have no desire to replace the radio.

I have installed and amp and two 6x9s in the back of one of the cars.
I then use the headphone jack from my portable cd to the line level of
the amp. Works fine. However the Roady2 unit doesn't have a
headphone jack or a volume control. It does have a low level output
to feed the cassette inteface device.

I am now looking for some device that I can put between the Roady2 and
the amp so that I can control the volume. Does such a creature exist?

Steve B.



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I would think you could add a preamp / eq, with a master volume control.
Put some male RCA's on the line out of the roady, and run them into the
input of the EQ. Then, run the output of the eq to the amps. I've seen
some audiobahn pre amps on ebay for less than $70, and you'd get an eq to
boot. I guess you could even 'package' the roady and the eq together, so
you could move them as one unit between vehicles.

The other option would be just puting a potentiometer in line with the roady
output, but that would only allow you to cut signal, and I don't know the
level of the roady. The pre amp way would let you match it better.

Toby J


"mayhemkrew" wrote in message
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I believe you can adjust the output level under the menu.

"Steve B." this is not my real [email protected] wrote in message
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Hi smart people:
I have a Delphi Roady2 unit and three cars. The Roady 2 has a
cassette adapter like a portable CD would use and also has an FM
modulator. The FM modulator works great in my primary car.

Problem:
My other two cars are classics which both have their original AM only
radios. I have no desire to replace the radio.

I have installed and amp and two 6x9s in the back of one of the cars.
I then use the headphone jack from my portable cd to the line level of
the amp. Works fine. However the Roady2 unit doesn't have a
headphone jack or a volume control. It does have a low level output
to feed the cassette inteface device.

I am now looking for some device that I can put between the Roady2 and
the amp so that I can control the volume. Does such a creature exist?

Steve B.





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I then use the headphone jack from my portable cd to the line level of
the amp. Works fine. However the Roady2 unit doesn't have a
headphone jack or a volume control. It does have a low level output
to feed the cassette inteface device.


Yes, and that line level output of the Roady2 is exactly what a LINE LEVEL of an
amp is looking for. And there IS an audio level control for the output in the
menu you can adjust. It always helps to read the manual to things so you know
all the things they can do.




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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 16:55:17 GMT, Truth wrote:

I then use the headphone jack from my portable cd to the line level of
the amp. Works fine. However the Roady2 unit doesn't have a
headphone jack or a volume control. It does have a low level output
to feed the cassette inteface device.


Yes, and that line level output of the Roady2 is exactly what a LINE LEVEL of an
amp is looking for. And there IS an audio level control for the output in the
menu you can adjust. It always helps to read the manual to things so you know
all the things they can do.


Yeah there is a way to change the level but with a minimum of six
steps it isn't an easy thing to do while you are driving. Also has a
limit of ten volume setting which is also unacceptable.

I ended up clipping the cable off an old pair of headphones that had a
volume switch on the cable. Wired it inline between the Roady and the
amp and it works great.

I've been pretty amazed at the reception on the unit. I just throw
the ant. up on the dash of whichever car I am in and only loose signal
under one particularly large overpass. Great sollution for those of
us who don't want a fancy new head unit in our cars for whatever
reason.

Steve B.
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Truth
 
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I then use the headphone jack from my portable cd to the line level of
the amp. Works fine. However the Roady2 unit doesn't have a
headphone jack or a volume control. It does have a low level output
to feed the cassette inteface device.


Yes, and that line level output of the Roady2 is exactly what a LINE LEVEL of an
amp is looking for. And there IS an audio level control for the output in the
menu you can adjust. It always helps to read the manual to things so you know
all the things they can do.


Yeah there is a way to change the level but with a minimum of six
steps it isn't an easy thing to do while you are driving.


You don't do it while you are driving, you do it once and it is done. Use the
volume control on your radio from there on. Don't even joke that you are
connecting this directly to a plain amplifier made to be driven by a head unit.
If that is the case, forget it. You need to get the XM to go to the head unit or
"preamp" with things like VOLUME controls on it.

The Roady2 has a built in FM transmitter, and comes with a cassette adaptor. Why
people have to make things more difficult than they are is beyond anything I can
explain.

I ended up clipping the cable off an old pair of headphones that had a
volume switch on the cable. Wired it inline between the Roady and the
amp and it works great.


Hey, if you rip out some good speakers from your home system and duct tape them in
your car, that might work too.

I've been pretty amazed at the reception on the unit. I just throw
the ant. up on the dash of whichever car I am in and only loose signal
under one particularly large overpass. Great sollution for those of
us who don't want a fancy new head unit in our cars for whatever
reason.


You didn't need a new head unit. The Roady2 can transmit to any head unit on FM,
or connect via the included cassette device.

No destroying headphones neccissary.


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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:51:21 GMT, Truth wrote:
Don't even joke that you areconnecting this directly to a plain amplifier made to be driven by a head unit.
If that is the case, forget it. You need to get the XM to go to the head unit or
"preamp" with things like VOLUME controls on it.

Why forget it? I did it.. It works fine.. I'm happy and I don't
really need some jackass off the internet to tell me it doesn't work.


The Roady2 has a built in FM transmitter, and comes with a cassette adaptor. Why
people have to make things more difficult than they are is beyond anything I can
explain.


Well heres you an explanation to help you with your meager abilities.
Cars didn't always come with FM radios or cassette decks. Two of the
three cars I bough this for are show cars that I have no desire to
ruin the asthetics of by removing the original functioning AM signal
seeking radio.

Steve B.
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Don't even joke that you areconnecting this directly to a plain amplifier made to be driven by a head unit.
If that is the case, forget it. You need to get the XM to go to the head unit or
"preamp" with things like VOLUME controls on it.

Why forget it? I did it.. It works fine..


If it worked fine, you wouldn't be asking how to do it because you can't get it to work fine.

Well heres you an explanation to help you with your meager abilities.
Cars didn't always come with FM radios or cassette decks. Two of the
three cars I bough this for are show cars that I have no desire to
ruin the asthetics of by removing the original functioning AM signal
seeking radio.


Old classic cars like that should not have satellite radios in them either, for the same reason you don't put FM
radios or CD players in them, they didn't have those things back then and you want to keep it as authentic as
possible.

When driving, you should be appreciating the sound of the engine and the atmosphere of the actual car, not to
satellite radio, that you can listen to some other time.



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"Truth" wrote in message
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Don't even joke that you areconnecting this directly to a plain
amplifier made to be driven by a head unit.
If that is the case, forget it. You need to get the XM to go to the
head unit or
"preamp" with things like VOLUME controls on it.

Why forget it? I did it.. It works fine..


If it worked fine, you wouldn't be asking how to do it because you can't
get it to work fine.

Well heres you an explanation to help you with your meager abilities.
Cars didn't always come with FM radios or cassette decks. Two of the
three cars I bough this for are show cars that I have no desire to
ruin the asthetics of by removing the original functioning AM signal
seeking radio.


Old classic cars like that should not have satellite radios in them
either, for the same reason you don't put FM
radios or CD players in them, they didn't have those things back then and
you want to keep it as authentic as
possible.

When driving, you should be appreciating the sound of the engine and the
atmosphere of the actual car, not to
satellite radio, that you can listen to some other time.


If you used that logic, you're suggesting that everyone not use satellite
radio because they can listen to it some other time?

Your suggestion to use the FM transmitter or the cassette adapter were both
signs that you didn't read the original post.




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Well heres you an explanation to help you with your meager abilities.
Cars didn't always come with FM radios or cassette decks. Two of the
three cars I bough this for are show cars that I have no desire to
ruin the asthetics of by removing the original functioning AM signal
seeking radio.


Old classic cars like that should not have satellite radios in them
either, for the same reason you don't put FM
radios or CD players in them, they didn't have those things back then and
you want to keep it as authentic as
possible.

When driving, you should be appreciating the sound of the engine and the
atmosphere of the actual car, not to
satellite radio, that you can listen to some other time.


If you used that logic, you're suggesting that everyone not use satellite
radio because they can listen to it some other time?


Are you just arguing for the sake of argument?

"I have no reason to ruin the aesthetics of by removing the original..."

That is the exact reason you don't go putting an XM radio in the car, or a CD
player.

If you are driving around in an antique and/or classic automobile, you don't
want to be using any technology in it that would take away from the
"aesthetics" or atmosphere of the classic ride. You are driving a classic
car, so listening to XM or watching TV or using a cellphone are not things you
want to ruin the occasion.

If you are out camping, skiing, or fishing, you don't want to be bothered with
radio or video games either.


Your suggestion to use the FM transmitter or the cassette adapter were both
signs that you didn't read the original post.


Because there was no original post on my system for me to read. Likewise,
there are many posts from 5 years ago you did not read also.

The only thing that was important, was that you were trying to use a Roady2 in
a car. MOST people would never expect someone would be using on in a classic
or antique car that only had an AM radio in it.

No one replying to a post goes first goes to google and reads every archived
post that ever took place in that thread prior.

If I post how do I trim my nails, I can't seem to cut them very well with a
magazine, and then you come back and say use a nail clipper... what if I
come back and say: "hey moron, if you read the entire thread, especially the
part from a year ago when I said I was on a plane that didn't allow nail
clippers, you blah blah blah and so forth.."

If you are asking how to get a Roady2 to work in an antique car that only has
an AM radio, then you should not be asking in the first place.

Where are you going to put the satelite antenna without ruining the
"aesthetics"?

How is listening to audio with higher fidelity than AM radio with modern XM
promos in them going to not ruin the "aesthetics" of the ride?



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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:23:52 GMT, Truth wrote:

If it worked fine, you wouldn't be asking how to do it because you can't get it to work fine.


I asked a month ago. I can't help it if you don't have enough sense
to check dates on posts before you answer.

Old classic cars like that should not have satellite radios in them either, for the same reason you don't put FM
radios or CD players in them, they didn't have those things back then and you want to keep it as authentic as
possible.


You really have a problem with reading comrehension don't you? The
amp and speakers are hidden in the back under the convertible top
well. When I take the car to a show I simply unplug the Roady and
stick the one cable that is permanent under the front seat. Original
works fine and no one knows the difference.

Steve B.
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You're awfully narrow-minded... owners of classic cars that actually
drive them instead of making trailer queens or dusty museum displays out
of them are going to want better than OEM audio in them. Who are you to
tell them they can't or shouldn't?

Personally, I am planning to build into my 68 TR-250 a strong
aftermarket system with hidden Sony controller and changer driving some
vintage Zapco and a/d/s/ gear, and a vintage look Becker in the dash so
I don't have to modify the OEM radio mount. All of this can be removed
if the next owner wants to go 100% stock. So can this guy's Roady 2...

I may turn the audio system off when I want to listen to the sound of
the dual 2" SU carbs sucking fuel mix into the engine and the stainless
exhaust hammering away, but I will also crank up some sweet tunes when I
feel like it, whether you approve or not. It IS my car after all, not
yours. You can build yours any damn way you want.

JD

Truth wrote:

Don't even joke that you areconnecting this directly to a plain amplifier made to be driven by a head unit.
If that is the case, forget it. You need to get the XM to go to the head unit or
"preamp" with things like VOLUME controls on it.



Why forget it? I did it.. It works fine..



If it worked fine, you wouldn't be asking how to do it because you can't get it to work fine.



Well heres you an explanation to help you with your meager abilities.
Cars didn't always come with FM radios or cassette decks. Two of the
three cars I bough this for are show cars that I have no desire to
ruin the asthetics of by removing the original functioning AM signal
seeking radio.



Old classic cars like that should not have satellite radios in them either, for the same reason you don't put FM
radios or CD players in them, they didn't have those things back then and you want to keep it as authentic as
possible.

When driving, you should be appreciating the sound of the engine and the atmosphere of the actual car, not to
satellite radio, that you can listen to some other time.






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does that stick up your ass hurt much?

JD

Truth wrote:

Well heres you an explanation to help you with your meager abilities.
Cars didn't always come with FM radios or cassette decks. Two of the
three cars I bough this for are show cars that I have no desire to
ruin the asthetics of by removing the original functioning AM signal
seeking radio.


Old classic cars like that should not have satellite radios in them
either, for the same reason you don't put FM
radios or CD players in them, they didn't have those things back then and
you want to keep it as authentic as
possible.

When driving, you should be appreciating the sound of the engine and the
atmosphere of the actual car, not to
satellite radio, that you can listen to some other time.



If you used that logic, you're suggesting that everyone not use satellite
radio because they can listen to it some other time?



Are you just arguing for the sake of argument?

"I have no reason to ruin the aesthetics of by removing the original..."

That is the exact reason you don't go putting an XM radio in the car, or a CD
player.

If you are driving around in an antique and/or classic automobile, you don't
want to be using any technology in it that would take away from the
"aesthetics" or atmosphere of the classic ride. You are driving a classic
car, so listening to XM or watching TV or using a cellphone are not things you
want to ruin the occasion.

If you are out camping, skiing, or fishing, you don't want to be bothered with
radio or video games either.




Your suggestion to use the FM transmitter or the cassette adapter were both
signs that you didn't read the original post.



Because there was no original post on my system for me to read. Likewise,
there are many posts from 5 years ago you did not read also.

The only thing that was important, was that you were trying to use a Roady2 in
a car. MOST people would never expect someone would be using on in a classic
or antique car that only had an AM radio in it.

No one replying to a post goes first goes to google and reads every archived
post that ever took place in that thread prior.

If I post how do I trim my nails, I can't seem to cut them very well with a
magazine, and then you come back and say use a nail clipper... what if I
come back and say: "hey moron, if you read the entire thread, especially the
part from a year ago when I said I was on a plane that didn't allow nail
clippers, you blah blah blah and so forth.."

If you are asking how to get a Roady2 to work in an antique car that only has
an AM radio, then you should not be asking in the first place.

Where are you going to put the satelite antenna without ruining the
"aesthetics"?

How is listening to audio with higher fidelity than AM radio with modern XM
promos in them going to not ruin the "aesthetics" of the ride?






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