[roughplanet]

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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On Mar 21, 2:38 am, "roughplanet"
wrote:

On Mar 20, 7:40 am, "Mark" wrote:

Actually sorry for jumping on you Keith.
Andre's original post, that 'it depends' on who the 10,000 are, really
got
me riled. Considering all the publicity surrounding the proliferation of
school massacres in the US, I just don't understand how anyone can come
out with a statement as hugely ignorant as that.

It doesn't depend at all on which kids are killed in schools by other
kids.
CHANGE THE ****ING CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS, YANK
MORONS!!!
There...now I feel better.

You're a piece of work, Mark, and a very unsavoury one at that.
Here is my entire exchange with Trevor Wilson:

*****
On Mar 19, 1:54 am, "Trevor Wilson" wrote:

The clear wording [in the American Constitution] involves the term:
"...well regulated militia.."
American gun loons regularly ignore this part of the 2nd Amendment. They
also manage to ignore the 10,000 dead Americans, murdered by other gun
loons each and every year.

Trevor Wilson

At the very least, Trevor, you must admit that it is a *self*-regulating
militia; whether it is *well* self-regulated depends on who the 10,000
dead
are.

Andre Jute
Darwin's little helper
****

Where does it say anything about "school children" either specifically
or by implication?

If you had actually read what I wrote, instead of kneejerking, you
would have discovered I was clearly speaking of adults:

"Militia" implies adults and excludes school children.

"other gun loons" are gun nuts permitted to buy arms under the Second
Amendment; they do not include school children.

"regulated militia" tells you again I was speaking about adults; the
officers of any militia are not school children.

School children who shoot their schoolmates didn't come by those arms
legally. Nothing in what I said relates to school children except in
your over-heated mind, Mark.

It is typical of the thoughtlessness and hypocritical double standards
on RAT that you apologize to fascist scum like Keith Richardson while
attempting to blame me for your stupid incomprehension.

I repeat, I said it is no loss to the gene pool if gun nuts murder
each other or shoot themselves. I said nothing about their children
taking guns to school and murdering their classmates. It is simply
unbelievable for some some anonymous clown called MarkS to blame me
for dead schoolchildren because I condemn their parents for stupidity
without ever mentioning the children.

Finally, your assumption that I knew about the schoolyard massacres is
entirely incorrect. I don't read the papers or watch television, and I
doubt those events even made the news here. Your presumption that
other people live as you do, do what you do, think like you do, is not
only stupidly parochial but deeply offensive, especially when you
accuse them of being callous on hand of these impertinent presumptions
you hold.

Andre Jute
No longer surprised by the foolishness of the clowns on RAT

Roughplanet then comments:

Yep, he's correct whether you like it or not. Assumptions are just the
extension of our own egos, therefore there are literally billions of them
on
any given subject.

The saying 'Assume makes an ass out of u and me' is right on the money,
closely followed by 'Post hoc ergo propter hoc'.

Usenet is one place where you WILL be called to account for your lack of
comprehension, ill-founded assumptions, guesswork, BS or any other
illogical
or asinine nonsense that people attempt to pass off for valid comment on
this & most other newsgroups.

The phrase 'Look before you leap' is a most apt summation of the rules of
Usenet.
Failure to adhere to same can only result in a painful & possibly
embarrassing
public dressing down.

ruff

Never expected to find you standing up for me, Ruff. You'd better say
quickly that you're just standing up for the truth, that you hate me
doubletime for being right just this once. Being found agreeing with
me is a sure way to ruin your street cred with this gang of wrongoes.

Andre Jute
People are always the most surprising element

Andre, I don't have any 'street cred' that I'm aware of, and I really don't
care what people may or may not think about me, or the values I hold, which
incidentally include placing a high price on the truth, no matter from whom
it emanates. And I don't suffer fools gladly either, and have never
pretended otherwise.

ruff