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Default Op-amp PSRR figure = fake


"Arny Krueger"
"Phil Allison"

PSRRs are typically in the 120dB region.

** Really?


On what planet is that ???


Earth in 2007-2008.



** Completely false that is it a *** TYPICAL *** figure !!!!!!!!


Modern pro-audio gear is CHOCK full of them.


Yes, but most modern gear is low end and/or based on legacy designs.



** Irrelevant, ridiculous DRIVEL



Ignoring the performance of SOTA equipment that is on the market and
generally available is deceptive.


** Got even the faintest idea what the word ** TYPICAL ** means ??

Need a dictionary ????


On balance, why one *needs* 120 dB power supply rejection when $0.25 and
0.50 cent regulator chips produce DC power with just a few millivolts of
noise on it, makes this discussion kinda moot.



** The figures quoted in op-amp spec tabes for PSRRs are VERY
MISLEADING - as they quote only the DC test result. You have to find a
maker HONEST enough to publish a graph of PSRR over the full frequency
range, like Natsemi do for their LF351 - which is near identical to TI's
TL071.

http://cache.national.com/ds/LF/LF351.pdf

Notice how the table figure for PSRR falls at * 20 dB per decade * from
about 10 Hz up !!!!!!!!!!!

The range near 10 kHz is important for audio circuits and you can see the
*ACTUAL* PSRR is a mere *40 dB* for the negative supply rail.

Perfectly possible for negative supply rail regulator noise to inject itself
into the op-amp at a noticeable level.

Smart audio designers use local R/C filtering on the DC rails to eliminate
the problem.

Obviously not congenital, masturbating dopes like Graham Stevenson who
cannot even read a data sheet.



...... Phil