AudioBanter.com - View Single Post - Why DBTs in audio do not deliver (was: Finally ... The Furutech CD-do-something)

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote in message ...
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:24:11 GMT, (ludovic
mirabel) wrote:

For the last two years I have been repeating that 1) there are
differences between components 2) they are audible to some and not
audible to others 3) explicitly, in those words and within te last
two weeks I repeated (see the (Why DBTs in audio do not..." July 25
posting) that talented or supertrained listeners such as Pinkerton,
Krueger, Clark and Greenhill's "golden ear" will still hear them even
when ABxing.

I am neither a talented nor a super-trained listener (whatever these
expressions are supposed to mean). I'm simply an experienced
audiophile, and one who's discovered (the hard way!) that *sighted*
listening is useless for distinguishing subtle sonic differences. Far
from Ludovic's risible claim that ABX somehow 'desensitises' the ear,
I've found that it is a much *more* sensitive test for subtle but
*real* sonic difference, than anything else I've tried in forty years
of audiophilia.

Unfortunately for Ludovic, there is *no* test which will reliably and
repeatably show sonic differences among 'audiophile' cables, because
they simply do not exist.

Sorry for trying too hard to be nice. I accept it: you're just an
"experienced audiophile" like any other participant in "Stereo Review"
amp. listening test most of whom (but not all) could not hear any
differences between the amps they listened to and just like another
simple "experienced audiophile " Nousaine whom you can not convince
that any comparable amplifiers whatsoever could EVER sound different
and just like that other simple "experienced audiophile" Krueger who
heard once-Lord knows what he can or can not hear these days-
differences between amplifiers that were not on your approved listing.
Of course- if only all of them had your room and your Krell and your,
thick at the waist, Apogees!
No doubt they'd see the light.
As for your favourite topics "cables" and "tests" I understand
that you decreed that there must be a "test" somewhere out there, and
you also decided what constitutes a "test". Correct me if I'm wrong,
so far it is ABX or its variant. You certainly have a fatwa out about
my favourite anti-bias protocol left-right with random changes.
Anything else you'd accept in your "test" canon?
For that matter any other audio components that differ other than
the amps.?
Ludovic Mirabel