"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

That's ridiculous. They have years of listening enjoyment by a many
many audiophiles. That is the bottom line for subjectivists. Lets face
this, the objectivists have no alternative to offer subjectivists that
will satisfy subjectivists. telling people their perceptions are wrong
is ultimately the most silly thing of all and hat does seem to be the
answer objectivists wish to ofer subjectivists.

It is true that attempting to educate the religious is doomed to
failure.

However, that *you* are unwilling to face reality, does not make us
give up hope that others will just 'trust their ears', as the
subjectivists always *claim* that they want people to do. What you
guys often forget is that all the 'hard line objectivists' on this
newgroup used to be exactly like you - except that we were willing to
accept that we had been wrong for all these years.

You and a few others have experienced what could be described as a
religious conversion. At one time you believed that differences you
perceived (and still do - this is a matter of record) were reality
based, but participation in double bind tests (esp. ABX) has
influenced your thinking to the degree that you now have absolute
FAITH in this method of comparing components. Ludovic, Randy, Harry
and others have FOR YEARS made logical, well reasoned arguments for a
healthy skepticism in ABX (in particular) results. For example, it has
been shown that some people are simply incapable of resolving small
(but not necessarily unimportant) audible differences under ABX
conditions. Have you considered that you may just not be very good at
it? Clearly not, as you routinely assert, for example, amplifiers -
even those you have not heard - sound the same.