those pioneers won't go low unless the enclosure and the installation is
spot on...... as a matter of fact, no system sounds worth a damn unless it's
installed correctly.

but, besides the pioneer's I'd also look at the Image Dynamics IDQ v2 for a
sub with great SQ and low frequency extension.... of course... I'm only
offering MY opinion on this brand.... you might like the sound and
performance of another sub, but installation is 99% of the sound you want,
IMHO.

FHLH..... then again... if you believe Pencil Necked Geeks like Tom
Nutstain.... installation (location) of a sub shouldn't matter....


"Steve Grauman" wrote in message
...
I need a subwoofer to compliment/complete my sound system. I'm not into DB
drag
competition or anything of the sort, I'm *only* interested in getting the
best
SQ possible for my money. I'm extremely anal about sound quality, and I
want
something that can go loud an LOW, down to 20Hz or below so I know the sub
can
handle anything thrown at it in terms of regular music. But it's got to
sound
great. I'd prefer a 12 inch or smaller sub for ease of installation, but
if
going up to a 15+ inch driver is neccesary, so be it. I'm looking for
reccomendations, because the only thing that looks to meet my criteria, at
least on paper, is Pioneer's TS-W12PRS series subwoofer (which is an SQ
sub, as
opposed to Pioneer's new SPL line of subs), it's good down to 15Hz! I've
heard
that Phoenix Gold's Titanium Elite 12 inch sub is good, but I can't find
any
specs for it. Please help me here!