S888Wheel wrote:
From: chung
Date: 4/7/2004 8:34 AM Pacific Standard Time
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S888Wheel wrote:
The conditions are as they have always been:
Levels matched to +/- 0.1dB at 100Hz, 1kHz and 10kHz at the speaker
terminals
Just as I thought. You really didn't want to compare anyone's favorite
audiophile cables without messing with their sound.
If you know of any audiophile cable that has trouble matching to those
numbers against a 12-ga home depot zip cord, do share that information
with us. You will be doing us a favor by exposing those cables that have
trouble passing the signal without coloration.
I have never looked into it but I recall some "objectivists" claiming that some
audiophile cables do have audible colorations. That was why I made my comment
in the first place.
Of course you realize that the cable can be constructed in such a way as
to be truly audibly different than others. Heck, simply have a resistor
in series with one of the leads; that will give you a different sounding
cable. Those intentionally colored cables, however, never were
advertized as having intentional colorations; instead they were praised
as revealing, dynamic, accurate, etc. Also the degree of coloration is
now a strong function of the speaker, so I wonder why anyone would call
something that is intentionally, uncontrollably, inaccurate "audiophile".
The conditions have always been there, and they are fair, since the vast
majority of cables satisfy that requirement easily. Without those
conditions, the bet is no longer a bet, since someone can bring in a
cable with resistors, or for that matter, a cable that is broken. We can
all tell a broken cable from a good one.
Test protocol double-blind
Pass criterion is 15 or more correct out of 20 trials
As it stands you could easily loose.
I don't think so, and unlike you, I'm putting my money where my mouth
is.
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Nah, you just changed the rules as I thought you would. *As it stood* you
really weren't offering a bet.
Why not? Which condition do you take issue with?
Matching at different frequencies. If a "favorite audiophile cable" has to be
EQed to sound the same then it does sound different to begin with. Stewart did
say that one could not tell the difference between zip cord and one's favorite
audiohhile cable.
Do you lose your
ability to tell cables apart once you don't know what you are listening
to?
I don't know really. I do know that the cables I have were cited blind as
having made a difference in the sound. The sample was only one though.
Who cited them different, blind?
Or are you one of those who go into a panic when they have to match
X to A or B?
I don't do my blind comparisons as ABX . I do them as simple A B comparisons. I
haven't compared cables in over a decade. Most of my comparisons are between
different issues of recordings.
Good to know that you don't a priori believe you are incapable of
comparing things blind.