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Default How pure is the signal when it reaches our ears?

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 7:08:55 PM UTC-8, ScottW wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:50:43 PM UTC-8, Scott wrote:
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On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:00:29 AM UTC-8, ScottW wrote:

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How does the cutter filter clipped signals?

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You left the all important HF. It's just a filter and indiscrimatel=

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I was talking about clipped signals not HF signals. So all I left out w=

as your attempt to change the issue of difficulty of cutting a clipped sign=
al. It is an issue regardless of the frequency of the signal.
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My point remains that it's not difficult to cut a digitally clipped signa=

l once it's been filtered and leveled appropriately for vinyl. It won't so=
und good...but that's another matter.


Which is irrelevant to my point that a clipped digital signal is one thing =
that would make a brick walled source signal particularly difficult to cut.=
You still have yet to explain how a cutter filters such a signal.=20
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according to frequency. What remains the cutter should be able to cu=

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no discriminating taste in sound quality.

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It's not about sound quality. It's about the shape of the wave.

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It's clear you don't understand that to have a wave shape the cutter can=

't handle that wave must have frequency components or levels outside the ra=
nge of the cutter. Levels are always adjusted in transfer from one media t=
o another and there will be at least two stages of filtering to eliminate u=
nacceptable frequency components before cutting.

Sorry but you are just plain wrong about that. Ever heard of a square wave?=
Do tell me how a square wave has to have a component or level outside of t=
he range of a cutter? It's the geometry that makes it pretty much impossibl=
e to cut. Not the frequency and not the amplitude. So tell us how this sort=
of wave is filtered by the cutter.=20
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Try reading past the introductory paragraph and you'll find this.

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"The moral for engineers is: If you are looking for hot levels or lon=

g sides, don't pan instruments like drums and percussion hard left and rig=
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bass and bass drum in the center, and keep everything in phase. An ou=

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snare or bass drum can wreak havoc. Use an oscilloscope if possible!"

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And this has what to do with your assertion that it is common practice =

to roll the highs and lows and fold the bass to mono? I see nothing in that=
quote that supports your assertion that this is how the vast majority of r=
ecords have been cut.
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FYI, a centered instrument is recorded in mono.


No it's not. Not that it would even matter. There are plenty of recordings =
that don't have the bass and drums dead center. What is your evidence that =
the vast majority of them had their bass folded to mono? You sources simply=
do not support that assertion. Not even close.