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Default Noise problem please help.

That's the last thing at this point, but it could very well be it.


Paul Vina



"dconder" wrote in message
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My amps are mounted to an MDF board.

Update.....

It appears all my components are ok. At least, as far as I can tell. I
have swapped about everything I can. I still have the hum and the

speakers
still shut off at high levels. The only other thing I know to try is run
new speaker wire and make sure it is not that. Other than that...???


"Ge0" wrote in message
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Just out of curiosity, how do you have your amp mounted? Is the heat

sink
to the amp grounded to the vehicles chassis or is it isolated? Many

times
manufactures will tie the heat sink of their amps to the internal power
supplies floating secondary ground in an effort to eliminate ground

loops.
Now, if you bolt the amp to the vehicles sheet metal you reconnect that
ground path. This not only can induce noise but can damage the amp.

Ge0
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"Paul Vina" wrote in message
. net...
Check all of the speaker wiring, it may have rubbed through the

insulation
somewhere and be causing a short.


Paul Vina


"Douglas Conder" wrote in message
ink.net...
Not the amp. I swapped them out before I came to work. Same Jl

300/4
in
both vehicles. Does the exact same thing. Hum still there and

speakers
still shut off. I have had a few people suggest a ground loop but,

would
this affect the speakers shutting off? It could explain the hum

but,
what
about the speakers?


"dconder" wrote in message
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Will try that today for sure. Its kinda double-edged, I hope it

is
not
the
amp but, then again, at least I would know what it is.


"Paul Vina" wrote in message
. net...
That pretty much rules out the Eclipse HU and the Diamonds.

When
you
have
time, try the 300/4 in your wife's car and her amp in yours.


Paul Vina


"dconder" wrote in message
...
Ok, here is what I tried. Ran the rca's from my Eclipse brain

into
the
JL
amps in my other vehicle. I tried my hardest but could not

hear
the
hum
and
pitch change. There was hiss but, no hum. I then hooked my

Alpine
IVA-C800, that is in my other vehicle, up to the JL amps in my

noise
vehicle
and the noise came thru the Diamonds just like from the

Eclipse.
Maybe
not
quite as loud but, that could be a preamp voltage difference

between
the
two
units. I am pretty much at a loss. It started raining so, I

am
done
for
the night but, any more suggestions you have, I will try. I

really
should
take the Eclipse out and have it checked to eliminate it but,

I
do
not
know
if anyone local can tell me that. I hate to have to send it

in
to
Eclipse
without knowing if it is bad or not.



"dconder" wrote in message
...
I guess that was too good to be true. I unhooked both

speakers
and
hooked
up a test speaker that I ran straight out of the 300/4 amp.

I
used
my
Image
Dynamics Chameleon, ran it thru its xover and only hooked up

the
tweeter.
Noise still there, just like the Diamonds. I guess that
eliminates
the
Diamonds from being a problem. My wife just got home so, I

am
going
to
run
from the Eclipse brain into the JL amps in my other vehicle.
Hopefully,
that will tell me something. I will update again in a few
minutes.


"Paul Vina" wrote in message
. net...
BINGO! I'll bet one of your speakers is bad and showing

the
amp
a
short
or
is actually shorting directly to ground. Disconnect all

of
the
speakers
and
then reconnect them one at a time until the noise comes

back.
Once
you
find
the set that's bad you can do the same thing to see if

it's
the
mid,
tweet
or crossover itself.


Paul Vina