"Kevin Aylward" wrote in message
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: Ruud Broens wrote:
: "Kevin Aylward" wrote in
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:: Please explain to me how you actually *perceive* an emotion *without*
: consciousness? Its a tautology. Its that simple. Consciousness is
: *how* feelings are recognised, i.e. how emotions are recognised.
: Emotions are feelings, i.e. we are consciously aware of them.
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: Hm, well, this is leading a bit astray, but if you want to discuss
: such matters, let's start with definitions: so what is perception,
: Kevin ?
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: Most aspects of consciousness gets one into a self referral situation.
: Perception is that which the conscious is aware of. What is
: consciousness, that which can perceive things. Get the drift. I have
: updated my site to address this in more detail.
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: http://www.anasoft.co.uk/replicators/understanding.html
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: Consciousness is simple a result that occurs when systems get
: sufficiently complicated. However, although it is *only* a function of
: its mass-energy parts, it can not be derived from its parts. It just is.
: It is an example of a Goedel system. True, but not derivable.

Mmm, yesss... this is referred to as the excretionist theory.
But you know all that, being the self-proclaimed expert,
so tell us more about other theories of consciousness,
sure you are aware of them ?
No hard feelings, Kev',
Rudy

: Kevin Aylward
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: http://www.anasoft.co.uk
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: Understanding, is itself an emotion, i.e. a feeling.
: Emotions or feelings can only be "understood" by
: consciousness. "Understanding" consciousness can
: therefore only be understood by consciousness itself,
: therefore the "hard problem" of consciousness, is
: intrinsically unsolvable.
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: Physics is proven incomplete, that is, no
: understanding of the parts of a system can
: explain all aspects of the whole of such system.
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