[PStamler]

On Dec 9, 4:42*pm, chris ruth wrote:
For ensemble recording i tried ortf not far enough away, with the
omni's and basically got a recording of the center guitars. It was my
first time, i'm totally green. There was another time i recorded a
koto ensemble, put the mics farther, but got too much room and sounded
like crap.

By definition you can't do ORTF with omni mics. ORTF is defined as
using cardioid mics, spaced 7" apart, angled outwards at 110 degrees.
If you're using omni mics in that configuration all you have is spaced
omnis, and with the Oktavas you have the added problem of pointing the
capsules at the musicians, which will brighten up the direct sound
while the room pickup is less bright. This disconnect between the on-
and off-axis sound may be part of the reason you hear the recordings
as sounding like crap.

Do this: set the MK012s up as a real ORTF pair, with the cardioid
capsules. Stick a finger in one of your ears and move around the room
in front of the musician(s) until you find a spot where it sounds good
-- good direct sound, good balance. Put the ORTF pair there and
record. See how that sounds.

Peace,
Paul