I said


I examined the results of contained in the articles you sent me and
do not find them conclusive.


Arny said



This begs the question as to whether there exists any evidence that would be
found to be conclusive by certain persons.


By certain persons I suspect you are including me. That is an interesting
question. Does such a body of evidence even exist? When Tom Nousiane made his
offer of such evidence the body of evidence he offered was hardly conclusive
about the audibility of amplifiers. This begs the question are some people
drawing definitive conclusions with less than adequate evidence to draw such
conclusions? Do you think the two cited articles supply sufficient evience to
draw any definitive conclusions about the audibility of amplifiers? Do you
think the evidence in those articles qualify as scientifically valid bodies of
empirical evidence? Do you think the issue of test sensitivity was sufficiently
addressed in those tests based on the content of those articles?

I said


Unfortunately four of the six articles
you sent me had no raw data to examine and only offered conclusions.


Arny said


Would this have made a difference?


It does to me when I am asking for empirical evidence. conclusions and analysis
is not data. analysis and conclusions without the raw data is just opinions
IMO.

I said



Given the fact that the two articles that did offer raw data drew
conclusions that I find questionable i have trouble feeling confident
about the conclusions drawn in the other articles missing the raw
data.

Arny said



Bottom line, there are plenty of opportunities now to do your own
experiments, gather and analyze your own data, etc.


1. That is irrelevant. Tom was claiming one could use the extant body of
evidence to make purchasing decisions. I was addressing that claim. 2. That is
not neccessarily true. Unless if we are trying to limmit this to scientifically
valid tests.

I said


So I find the evidence to date that I have seen less than
helpful in purchase decisions.


Arny said


The problem here relates to being able to obtain abstract knowledge and
apply it.

Nonsense. this is just a personal attack. Please show how I have failed to
either obtain or apply absrtact knowledge in this case. Do you think Tom
Nousiane has failed in his attempt to supply me with the best empirical
evidence on the subject? do you think the cited tests offer evidence upon which
one can draw definitive conclusions about the sound of amplifiers? Please
specifically support your inference that I have failed intelectually in my
edeavour to "obtain abstract knowledge and apply it" on this subject. If you
can't then please retract your claims on this matter. They are offensive.

Arny said

Once I found that dramatic audible differences between good
cables,SS amplifiers and/or CD players just don't exist; I started basing my
purchase decisions on differences that do exist.



Dramatic is a subjective adjective. What is dramatic to one person is
insignificant to another. Maybe we should stick to the subject of audible
differences.